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https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-is-holding-secret-meetings-with-2020-dem-contenders?yptr=yahoo
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    I hope this is true...
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    edited June 2018
    RaceBannon said:

    greenblood said:

    I hope this is true...

    The only election Obama was any good at was his own
    A lot of that has to do with how Obama revolutionized campaigning. Unfortunately, with the rise of social media, what made Obama so successful on the campaign trail has quickly become outdated.

    The democrats right now don't have an agenda to run on. The stock market is kicking ass, unemployment is at a 2 decade low, the labor participation rate has stabilized, and Trump is about to fully legalize weed. Any agenda that is contrary to the current agenda is a losing agenda.

    The only thing the democrats can run on is: "Trump is a misogynist, a racist, rude, and hates immigrants". This agenda will win the vocal sub-segments of their party, but it isn't the winning formula for the working man and woman that still hold the majority in this country. Trump was voted in because he wasn't like any politician before him. Now with the economy in full swing, you really think the public is going to revert back to the common politician? The economy is and will always be the biggest driver in a campaign race, and if the economy is humming, the incumbent scores a massive advantage.

    The only thing that could derail a Trump 2020 bid is a George W. recession, or if Democrats are willing to put up a wild card of their own, which I don't see them doing.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,695
    edited June 2018
    I can't wait to see who the dems run. Somehow it's going to be worse than I can imagine.


    It's like they are addicted to losing. Do they not realize that they don't have to pander to the super leftist SJW crowd? Those people are voting for you anyway.
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  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    Pitchfork51 said:

    I can't wait to see who the dems run. Somehow it's going to be worse than I can imagine.


    It's like they are addicted to losing. Do they not realize that they don't have to pander to the super leftist SJW crowd? Those people are voting for you anyway.

    At this point it would have to be a Mark Cuban like candidate that will draw enough enthusiasm for Democrats to win. The independents will overwhelmingly pick Trump if it becomes an agenda driven race, with the current economic situation we have now. Democrats cannot win on agenda right now.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,695
    greenblood said:

    Pitchfork51 said:

    I can't wait to see who the dems run. Somehow it's going to be worse than I can imagine.


    It's like they are addicted to losing. Do they not realize that they don't have to pander to the super leftist SJW crowd? Those people are voting for you anyway.

    At this point it would have to be a Mark Cuban like candidate that will draw enough enthusiasm for Democrats to win. The independents will overwhelmingly pick Trump if it becomes an agenda driven race, with the current economic situation we have now. Democrats cannot win on agenda right now.
    Whatever nazi. Even if they lose it's still a moral victory regardless because NOT TRUMP
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,695
    What the dems also will never get is that it wasnt the southern racists who won it for him because those people are voting republican anyway.

    God they are so fucking thick it's nuts.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,140 Founders Club
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Obama had personal popularity despite the haters and he had a lot of folks pulling for him due to our racist history as a slave nation. It never translated to the party which lost every time. Then Hillary proved it was about Obama not policy when she lost running for the third term

    I don't know many who don't think that Obama wouldn't have got that third term if he was running. The anti Trump rhetoric would have been more effective. With Hillary it was, yeah he's a heel but he's not Hillary

    Voting against someone (see 2016) often tims motivates more than voting for someone.
    Black voter turnout was the opposite of that though and might have been the difference. They came out for Obama and enough stayed home for Hillary

    There was a reason boobs was calling Trump a racist every day but it didn't work in regards to scaring voters to the poll
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