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What ARE the unfair trade practices Trump is bitching about endlessly?

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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
    We’ll never have a balanced trade ledger with China and that’s not the point. What we want is to be able to play in their markets with investments and as you said earlier, Tech. They have locked us out of that.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Ok. So what exactly is wrong with a trade deficit? Why do you conservatives all of the sudden care about a trade deficit? And what will tariffs accomplish?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,601 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Ok. So what exactly is wrong with a trade deficit? Why do you conservatives all of the sudden care about a trade deficit? And what will tariffs accomplish?
    We care about free trade and that in many instances it is not reciprocal. HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club
    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    haven't liberals always loved Reaganomics??
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,553 Founders Club
    edited June 2018

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
    A trade war has been happening for more than 20 years with China. They've been planning and fighting it while we are still in denial about it. The president is doing his best to lead/spin/frame/deceive(however you want to spin his action I don't care) us to fighting that trade war and not ignore it. He tends to rally the nationalists using tried and true democratic talking points that think that US manufacturing is dead just because of the rust belt epidemic.

    This is why, while it may have been politically popular, it was so stupid to pull out of the TPP. It was OUR trade deal and we were setting 90% of the terms. Instead, all of our Pacific allies signed up for the China Development Bank and we have become isolated instead of us isolating China.

    TLDR China IS a big problem and is playing GO. The president(or his Econ advisers anyways) are at least playing checkers. The american public is watching reruns of the Honeymooners.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread
    Didn't think you had a response.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread
    Didn't think you had a response.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread was my response