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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Please to be explaining how that is unfair? It's their country. Just one it's our country. Abs we have a leader, your hero, making trade wars out of nothing for no reason other than to flex his muscle. And idiots like you stroke off to it.
    If the others tax our exports to them at high rates why shouldn't we be making some money off of them as well?

    HTH
    From the dude who said we need to lower corporate income taxes to reduce costs to the consumer.

    Dumbfuck.
    yes the idea is doing a number of things to incentivize industry within this country its pretty simple

    china enslaves their people and destroys the planet so that americans can acquire slightly cheaper consumer garbage in exchange for dollars which they use strategically to improve their military, increase their manufacturing base, buy up crucial strategic long-term assets across the globe such as raw material sources
    how is this setup good for anyone?
    Not to mention the cherry on the top.

    Currency manipulation.
    Maybe you can apply for Chinese yuan the next time you go on welfare.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited June 2018

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
    What dialect of hillbilly do you speak?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....
    So what indeed. Did a Mexican steal your job?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
    What dialect of hillbilly do you speak?

  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    topdawgnc said:

    The one area where I disagree with Trump.

    He still believes that cars, manufacturing and other labor intensive jobs can make a come back in America.

    if you look at the world through his lens, America was great when we built shit.

    He's not eh o my one who thinks that.

    Amdn not sure he is entirely wrong about it.

    The fact is, there are, and for the foreseeable future, will be, WAY more people who have no role in an Tech/services economy than those who do.

    And our economic relations with china go well beyond IP theft.

    Our exports go through vetting and more economically inefficient bullshit than you can shake a stick at.
    Fuck this damn phone!^
    Engrish matters!

    Oh and phones are EVIL incarnate!
    Speaking Engrish isn’t a necessity where He lives, so I’ll cut him a break there.
    What dialect of hillbilly do you speak?
    The chinvite for a swim is still open. You’ll be able to hear first hand.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....
    So what indeed. Did a Mexican steal your job?
    If I only had a pesoyuan for everytime you poast the same tired shit, I’d go ahead and buy ya a plane ticket for that swim.

    You should prolly polish that last Busch lite and have the caregiver wheel you to your rack.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....
    So what indeed. Did a Mexican steal your job?
    If I only had a pesoyuan for everytime you poast the same tired shit, I’d go ahead and buy ya a plane ticket for that swim.

    You should prolly polish that last Busch lite and have the caregiver wheel you to your rack.
    Same tired shit? Thanks for caring.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
    We’ll never have a balanced trade ledger with China and that’s not the point. What we want is to be able to play in their markets with investments and as you said earlier, Tech. They have locked us out of that.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Ok. So what exactly is wrong with a trade deficit? Why do you conservatives all of the sudden care about a trade deficit? And what will tariffs accomplish?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Ok. So what exactly is wrong with a trade deficit? Why do you conservatives all of the sudden care about a trade deficit? And what will tariffs accomplish?
    We care about free trade and that in many instances it is not reciprocal. HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them
  • SarkFanSixtyNine
    SarkFanSixtyNine Member Posts: 373

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    haven't liberals always loved Reaganomics??
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,062 Founders Club
    edited June 2018

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
    A trade war has been happening for more than 20 years with China. They've been planning and fighting it while we are still in denial about it. The president is doing his best to lead/spin/frame/deceive(however you want to spin his action I don't care) us to fighting that trade war and not ignore it. He tends to rally the nationalists using tried and true democratic talking points that think that US manufacturing is dead just because of the rust belt epidemic.

    This is why, while it may have been politically popular, it was so stupid to pull out of the TPP. It was OUR trade deal and we were setting 90% of the terms. Instead, all of our Pacific allies signed up for the China Development Bank and we have become isolated instead of us isolating China.

    TLDR China IS a big problem and is playing GO. The president(or his Econ advisers anyways) are at least playing checkers. The american public is watching reruns of the Honeymooners.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread
    Didn't think you had a response.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread
    Didn't think you had a response.
    There it is. Come see hondo make stupid posts in every thread was my response
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    Obama a self admitted commie. Hondo was simply sucked in by the "we'll take from the productive and give to you" shit.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    You can only defend Trump by pointing at Obama. No one here said anything about flags. Dumbass.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    Come watch me kick hondo's ass in every thread
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2018
    2001400ex said:

    You can only defend Trump by pointing at Obama. No one here said anything about flags. Dumbass.
    I'm not. I'm just pointing out your commie didn't deal with NK because he loves commies. Couldn't bring the heat. His little red heart wasn't in it. Just like you.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    I'm not defending Trump. What he has done speaks for itself.

    We point out Obama and Hillary to show how fucking hypocritical you are. You suck their dicks to this day then run here with anti Trump talking points that make you look like the hypocritical moron you are
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited June 2018
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    You can only defend Trump by pointing at Obama. No one here said anything about flags. Dumbass.
    I'm not. I'm just pointing out your commie didn't deal with NK because he loves commies. Couldn't bring the heat. His little red heart wasn't in it. Just like you.
    I wasn't even talking to you. Dumbass. But yes you have the exact same issue. Every response to dumb shit Trump does you point at Obama or Hillary.

    I'm just glad to see you love communists now.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    nuff said on that
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,725 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    You can only defend Trump by pointing at Obama. No one here said anything about flags. Dumbass.
    I'm not. I'm just pointing out your commie didn't deal with NK because he loves commies. Couldn't bring the heat. His little red heart wasn't in it. Just like you.
    I wasn't even talking to you. Dumbass. But yes you have the exact same issue. Every response to dumb shit Trump does you point at Obama is Hillary.

    I'm just glad to see you love communists now.
    Lefty meltdowns are always special. Quick! head for a safe space phone booth thingy.
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited June 2018
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    Sledog said:

    Canada levies a tariff of 270 percent on milk, 245 percent on cheese and 298 percent on butter in an effort to keep U.S. and other foreign dairy imports out. And people get upset about the US wanting to put a tariff out there to get the attention of the real offenders of unfair trade

    Well, OK, but how tangible is this? We have our own exclusive rules too, you know. I believe an example is the "buy USA" law which makes it illegal to buy foreign crap like cars for government. My information obtained by the NY Times is that far from running a deficit, we in fact running a trade surplus. The dumbfuck known as our president, by the way, omits services in his distortions of reality.
    The NY Times said that we had a 400 Billion trade deficit with China and Mexico alone in 2016. So....

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/09/upshot/what-is-the-trade-deficit.html
    Well if you read the article the thing most to take from it is that the view of our dumbfuck president is just a distortion of select issues and not the whole picture that he presents it as. The world of that dunbfuck is a falsification of reality designed to meet his ends. It is not realism.
    2001400ex said:

    If Trump was is favor of trade defects hondo would be against them

    You would have flipped your lid if Obama met with North Korea. But after 40 years of railing against communism, you now think it's cool too partner with communists. Nice work.
    POTD