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Mataio Soli, 2019 4* DE, Douglasville (Douglas County HS), GA (Offered)
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I am sure he will get a "well earned" 4th start with that offer sheet soon.
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I am sure we wasted money on postage to Georgia.CuntWaffle said:I am sure he will get a "well earned" 4th start with that offer sheet soon.
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This is a worthwhile offer!
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Oh thank god! I was nervous we were going to offer someone from CA, or god forbid, in-state. WTF!?
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Ya like u guys said...
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Have we ever gotten a kid from Georgia?
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Does Antavius Sims count?WeakarmCobra said:Have we ever gotten a kid from Georgia?
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It must be measurables and/or overconfidence. I don't get it. Why jump in the cesspool with Alabama and Clemson? These Florida and Georgia kids have only one P5 offer apiece (Pitt and Georgia Tech) and are just as good, if not better.
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The last kid we got from GA was Jeff Shalda. Who quit football and refused to come to UW (leaving us with 1 OL for the class).WeakarmCobra said:Have we ever gotten a kid from Georgia?
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My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
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Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
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If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
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Of all the worthless offers we've thrown out, Im curious to know how many of those offers are coming from KWAT.... i literally picture in my mind KWAT offering every kid that responds to his DM's even if all its says is 'wsup coach'Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
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I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever. -
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever. -
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
Fucking show me. -
I agree K is a shit recruiter. If you're poont was simply "he's desperate" I probably wouldn't have batted an eyelash. When you said "they're desperate" i took that as a reflection of the greater staff and the multiple longshot offers they seem to be extending. And i don't for a minute think the staff in general is recruiting out of desperation.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
Fucking show me.
K, sure, fire away. -
They did promote Lake to DC and bring Harris in to take over the DB's. They may be late to the table but they have addressed that issue. Have to see if Lake will take on Buck's but I remember seeing things posted from him that says he has taken over a part of that responsibility. It won't be an instant change but it should help going forward,Dennis_DeYoung said:
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
Fucking show me. -
This. Lake's getting the big bucks and big responsibility now. He should take equal responsibility or credit for every recruit on the defensive side of the ball. At the very least he should be coaching up Kwitkowski on recruiting technique.Ice_Holmvik said:
They did promote Lake to DC and bring Harris in to take over the DB's. They may be late to the table but they have addressed that issue. Have to see if Lake will take on Buck's but I remember seeing things posted from him that says he has taken over a part of that responsibility. It won't be an instant change but it should help going forward,Dennis_DeYoung said:
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
Fucking show me. -
Wrong. They have addressed it when we see results. Jesus Fucking Christ, what a bunch of Doogs.Ice_Holmvik said:
They did promote Lake to DC and bring Harris in to take over the DB's. They may be late to the table but they have addressed that issue. Have to see if Lake will take on Buck's but I remember seeing things posted from him that says he has taken over a part of that responsibility. It won't be an instant change but it should help going forward,Dennis_DeYoung said:
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
Fucking show me. -
Just like recruiting in Texas is a waste of time?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever. -
It’s one thing to disagree with the strategy ... it’s another to thing that there isn’t a rhyme or reason.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
There is most definitely a reason for these offers ... the question is can you identify the reasons why? -
There needs to be separation between what we have done and what we are doing going forward.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
Fucking show me.
It’s absolutely fair to hold K the recruiter and Gregory’s recruiting out as a massive rd flag area.
On the other hand, I’m not 100% sure that this is a strategy that is inconsistent with other areas of our recruiting ...
It’s for sure worth discussing ... I do think it is extreme to suggest that it is worthless -
Your eyes are as good as mineTequilla said:
It’s one thing to disagree with the strategy ... it’s another to thing that there isn’t a rhyme or reason.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
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We were also saying the same about MalloeDennis_DeYoung said:
Wrong. They have addressed it when we see results. Jesus Fucking Christ, what a bunch of Doogs.Ice_Holmvik said:
They did promote Lake to DC and bring Harris in to take over the DB's. They may be late to the table but they have addressed that issue. Have to see if Lake will take on Buck's but I remember seeing things posted from him that says he has taken over a part of that responsibility. It won't be an instant change but it should help going forward,Dennis_DeYoung said:
Maybe you misunderstand what I meant by desperate. It couldn't possibly be that I didn't communicate it correctly.dnc said:
I'm fine with this take. I #TrustTheCoaches so I assume there is solid reasoning to it, but it doesn't make any sense to me on it's face either. I just don't think there's any reason to think it's desperate when we're still among the least offers extended and at the top of "percentage of offers extended that have been accepted". It's weird as fuck, but not close to desperate.CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
I don’t think any of the kids that we haven’t offered in state are locks to take our offer, it’s gonna be a battle for those kids.dnc said:
If they were desperate they'd be offering the in state kids that will clearly take the offer if they extend it.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Nah. They are desperate and think think casting a wide net, something's bound to work.Ice_Holmvik said:My guess is the staff believes they are in the process of building a national brand similar to Oregon. Having Adidas as an ally and playing in Atlanta next year will help further that exposure. I think they are trying to establish UW as a program that can take a few kids from the South every year or two the way Oregon can. It might be wasted effort for the now but Pete plays the long game and I think this is part of his plan.
You can disagree with the strategery all day long but desperate's got nothing to do with it.
I don’t think it’s desperate either, I think it’s a ridiculous strategy that they are employing and makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
They are desperate to get a 'big time BUCK' prospect. So, they are throwing out offers and following a bunch of kids we have no shot at in the 'ugly guy propositioning every 10 in the club' kind of way.
Given Coach K's results, why is it the default to assume there is a good strategy? His recruiting here has produced this:
YEAR 1: Nobody.
YEAR 2: Benning (in-state kid, Choate was lead recruiter on, brother went to UW), Jusstis Warren (in-state late offer, no competition), Bryce Sterk (in-state, late offer, no competition), Myles Rice (out-of-state, injured all senior year, no competition).
YEAR 3: Amandre (in-state, minimal competition)
YEAR 4: Joe Tryon (in-state, late offer, some competition, but he always wanted to go to UW)
YEAR 5: Nobody.
So, why the fuck would we think he has a strategy? I don't understand why the default is that he is a good recruiter and knows what he's doing. FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF EVIDENCE shows he is clueless.
Why is it so hard to get people here to hold attitudes that are more nuanced than 'I like this guy/I hate this guy'. I fucking love Coach K. As a guy. As a coach. He is awesome. I do not want him fired. But RYAN BOWMAN is our back up BUCK.
But WHAT FUCKING EVIDENCE IS THERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING IN RECRUITING!?!?
None. He's gotten blown out for every good BUCK prospect we've been in on. Last year we offered tons of Texas and Southern BUCK kids. ONE KID WENT TO FUCKING LA TECH!!!
On this fucking bored of all places why do we have to take as the default that the coaches know what they're doing.
How about when they get some pelts on the wall, then we trust them?
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Their strategy is "there are lots of guys there, let's follow them and ask them if they want an offer. If they act interested and are a top 300 guy, offer" - that's it.
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It’s way more complicated to dive into right now ... but it’s an unquestioned area where we have to find solutions here going forward.Dennis_DeYoung said:Their strategy is "there are lots of guys there, let's follow them and ask them if they want an offer. If they act interested and are a top 300 guy, offer" - that's it.
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With 66 total offers? Compare that to 284 Oregon offers. I understand you are pissed because we have been shit recruiting bucks previously but there is not a chance in hell a Petersen led staff is just throwing out offers to see if one sticks to the wall. They have a plan and they don't offer just to offer. It goes against Pete's whole recruiting philosophy. And....@spirithorse so I can get a chin up in here!Dennis_DeYoung said:Their strategy is "there are lots of guys there, let's follow them and ask them if they want an offer. If they act interested and are a top 300 guy, offer" - that's it.
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Ask and ye shall receive...Ice_Holmvik said:
With 66 total offers? Compare that to 284 Oregon offers. I understand you are pissed because we have been shit recruiting bucks previously but there is not a chance in hell a Petersen led staff is just throwing out offers to see if one sticks to the wall. They have a plan and they don't offer just to offer. It goes against Pete's whole recruiting philosophy. And....@spirithorse so I can get a chin up in here!Dennis_DeYoung said:Their strategy is "there are lots of guys there, let's follow them and ask them if they want an offer. If they act interested and are a top 300 guy, offer" - that's it.
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