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Round 2 (late 1970's to mid 1980's) - #3 Van Halen vs #11 The Ramones

YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club



Round 2 (late 1970's to mid 1980's) - #3 Van Halen vs #11 The Ramones 44 votes

#3 Van Halen
72%
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#11 The Ramones
27%
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  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
    #3 Van Halen
    Might as well not even play the game
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    #3 Van Halen
    Sophie’s Choice for me.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,511 Founders Club
    #11 The Ramones
    Not a good start this tim.
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,742
    #3 Van Halen
    I will create thousands of alt-handles if that's what it takes to get Van Halen to the final four.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,931
    #3 Van Halen
    PANAMA
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    #3 Van Halen
    The Damoans Cinderella run is over and now may they sink back into the fucking irrelevant abyss where they belonged all along.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,979 Swaye's Wigwam
    #11 The Ramones
    Should have been the Sex Pistols anyways. As much as Phil Spector and the wall of sound were revolutionary I've always found the Ramones to be one of the most boring punk bands musically. Tim & place matter though as we've established with other bands.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club
    #3 Van Halen

    Should have been the Sex Pistols anyways. As much as Phil Spector and the wall of sound were revolutionary I've always found the Ramones to be one of the most boring punk bands musically. Tim & place matter though as we've established with other bands.

    Sex Pistols are hamstrung IMHO opinion by only having 1 album. There were a lot of artists who got in with only 2 or maybe 3 good records, but 1 LP ain't gonna cut it.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,979 Swaye's Wigwam
    #11 The Ramones

    Should have been the Sex Pistols anyways. As much as Phil Spector and the wall of sound were revolutionary I've always found the Ramones to be one of the most boring punk bands musically. Tim & place matter though as we've established with other bands.

    Sex Pistols are hamstrung IMHO opinion by only having 1 album. There were a lot of artists who got in with only 2 or maybe 3 good records, but 1 LP ain't gonna cut it.
    Fair to make the ruling but 1 game changing album can be worth 20 "good" albums.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club
    #3 Van Halen

    Should have been the Sex Pistols anyways. As much as Phil Spector and the wall of sound were revolutionary I've always found the Ramones to be one of the most boring punk bands musically. Tim & place matter though as we've established with other bands.

    Sex Pistols are hamstrung IMHO opinion by only having 1 album. There were a lot of artists who got in with only 2 or maybe 3 good records, but 1 LP ain't gonna cut it.
    Fair to make the ruling but 1 game changing album can be worth 20 "good" albums.
    Absolutely. However, I don't think Bollocks was anymore game changing than the first Ramones album. And then the Ramones went one to have 2 or 3 more truly great albums, Rocket to Russia being the best of them. Nor do I think Bollocks was more important historically than the first Clash record.

    People forget as well, that the Damned and not the Pistols were the first UK punk group to get an LP in the stores.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,979 Swaye's Wigwam
    #11 The Ramones

    Should have been the Sex Pistols anyways. As much as Phil Spector and the wall of sound were revolutionary I've always found the Ramones to be one of the most boring punk bands musically. Tim & place matter though as we've established with other bands.

    Sex Pistols are hamstrung IMHO opinion by only having 1 album. There were a lot of artists who got in with only 2 or maybe 3 good records, but 1 LP ain't gonna cut it.
    Fair to make the ruling but 1 game changing album can be worth 20 "good" albums.
    Absolutely. However, I don't think Bollocks was anymore game changing than the first Ramones album. And then the Ramones went one to have 2 or 3 more truly great albums, Rocket to Russia being the best of them. Nor do I think Bollocks was more important historically than the first Clash record.

    People forget as well, that the Damned and not the Pistols were the first UK punk group to get an LP in the stores.
    All fair reasoning. I think the Sex Pistols were none the less more influential to the punk scene. Ramones definitely win out on the popular scene for the influence category. Either one ain't making it past this round anyways.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club
    #3 Van Halen

    Should have been the Sex Pistols anyways. As much as Phil Spector and the wall of sound were revolutionary I've always found the Ramones to be one of the most boring punk bands musically. Tim & place matter though as we've established with other bands.

    Sex Pistols are hamstrung IMHO opinion by only having 1 album. There were a lot of artists who got in with only 2 or maybe 3 good records, but 1 LP ain't gonna cut it.
    Fair to make the ruling but 1 game changing album can be worth 20 "good" albums.
    Absolutely. However, I don't think Bollocks was anymore game changing than the first Ramones album. And then the Ramones went one to have 2 or 3 more truly great albums, Rocket to Russia being the best of them. Nor do I think Bollocks was more important historically than the first Clash record.

    People forget as well, that the Damned and not the Pistols were the first UK punk group to get an LP in the stores.
    All fair reasoning. I think the Sex Pistols were none the less more influential to the punk scene. Ramones definitely win out on the popular scene for the influence category. Either one ain't making it past this round anyways.
    And I think this is what makes an exercise such as this such a mind fuck. I love all the classic DD era Van Halen, Clash, Ramones and Pistols albums. There's shit ton of great American and UK punk that didn't make the cut.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    #11 The Ramones
    I voted for the Ramones, but I'm actually voting for the Sex Pistols.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,789
    #3 Van Halen

    Tequilla said:

    PANAMA

    For years I thought they said “Cannon Ball” instead of PANAMA.

    I also was once driving my friend’s car while he was high on acid. He got so fired up during this song that he was kicking the windshield from the passenger seat. The window broke. It was cool.
    The windshield broke while you were driving??
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,367
    #3 Van Halen

    Tequilla said:

    PANAMA

    For years I thought they said “Cannon Ball” instead of PANAMA.

    I also was once driving my friend’s car while he was high on acid. He got so fired up during this song that he was kicking the windshield from the passenger seat. The window broke. It was cool.
    Supeli Malamala?
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    #3 Van Halen
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    PANAMA

    For years I thought they said “Cannon Ball” instead of PANAMA.

    I also was once driving my friend’s car while he was high on acid. He got so fired up during this song that he was kicking the windshield from the passenger seat. The window broke. It was cool.
    The windshield broke while you were driving??
    Yep on the passenger side. I was maybe a minute or two away from my house.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,931
    #3 Van Halen
    PANAMA basically was playing on a continuous loop in a taxi/Uber car to the Acrop one night
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,812 Founders Club
    #3 Van Halen
    Tequilla said:

    PANAMA basically was playing on a continuous loop in a taxi/Uber car to the Acrop one night

    The one in Athens or Portland ?
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 64,057 Founders Club
    #3 Van Halen
    salemcoog said:

    The Damoans Cinderella run is over and now may they sink back into the fucking irrelevant abyss where they belonged all along.

    April 28, 2018 - The first @Salemcoog post I've ever chinned.
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