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Video analysis: UW's 3rd down production on offense in 2017

GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
A claim yesterday by one of the P12 Network announcers that UW boasted one of the best 3rd down offenses in the country rang hallow for me. So I pulled the tape of all non-garbage time 3rd down plays for the offense (+ 4th down attempts and 2-pt conversions). I also excluded Montana because shame on us for scheduling a subdivision team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLe1T7rHCNM

Have a look and kickstart your memory. Yikes. This needs to be the biggest area of improvement in 2018. Edit: some of the sound encoding is fucked up, twas' done on my phone. Oh well.
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  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,916
    First clip is all I needed to watch.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,983
    There's some good ... some bad ... lots of ugly
  • uziuzi Member Posts: 1,298
    Nice job. How do you edit tapes on your phone?
  • MisterEmMisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Great stuff @Gladstone. Would like to see the D stats on 3rd+ downs some other time..

    Browning is who we thought he was until proven otherwise.
  • LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,590 Founders Club
    In case anyone wasn’t depressed enough that the weekend is over
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    God bless you. Fuck Doogs who support Brownsocks.

    Thank allah that this is his last year
  • guntloveguntlove Member Posts: 784
    Good chit, StoneyBoat.
  • CheersWestDawgCheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.

    The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.

    If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017.
  • MeekMeek Member Posts: 7,031
    I appreciate your efforts, but I refuse to watch clips like this in the off-season.
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    @GrundleStiltzkin you fuckbag, we need some choice GIFs out of this. @Gladstone what we really need in a 10 minute montage of Jake just running around like a moron in the backfield.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.

    The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.

    If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017.

    Stanford gayme died on the failure to get the 4th down conversion.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    @GrundleStiltzkin you fuckbag, we need some choice GIFs out of this. @Gladstone what we really need in a 10 minute montage of Jake just running around like a moron in the backfield.

    Jakes new spin move in to the arms of defenders please. Fucking babushka should be castrated for teaching him this shit
  • PurpleBazePurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,107 Founders Club

    @GrundleStiltzkin you fuckbag, we need some choice GIFs out of this. @Gladstone what we really need in a 10 minute montage of Jake just running around like a moron in the backfield.

    Fucking babushka should be castrated
  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    This brought on a crippling depression I hadn’t felt since 2017 ended.

    Except for that first clip. That shit makes me feel ridiculously happy every time I see it. It’s impossible not to smile.

    Then it’s 31:57 of just pure sadness.

    Thanks Gladstone.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,983

    After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.

    The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.

    If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017.

    Stanford gayme died on the failure to get the 4th down conversion.
    How many remember that UW led that game 14-10 at half?
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    How do you edit on phone?
  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    edited April 2018

    After turnovers, I believe 3rd and 4th down efficiency are the most telling statistics in football.

    The Stanford game last year was absolutely abortive in terms of 3rd and 4th down efficiency.

    If you aren't good converting 3rd and 4th downs, you have to make up for it with a higher number of big plays...and with the graduation of John Ross - our number of big plays took a fucking nosedive from 2016 to 2017.

    3rd and 4th down efficiency are among the most misunderstood statistics in football.

    UW was 16th in the nation in 3rd down conversion percentage in 2017. This DOES NOT mean UW and Browning had some kind of special sauce allowing them to magically convert 3rd and 6 more often than anyone else.

    No, instead it means UW was likely facing much shorter distances on 3rd down as a result of:
    1. Running the ball successfully on 1st and 2nd down.
    2. Lack of explosive plays.

    This is why you always see the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Georgia Southern leading the nation in 3rd down conversion % even when their option offenses aren't working particularly well.
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