Happy Record Store Day you assholes
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I was told there would be no maff.
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Tell me about.BennyBeaver said:I was told there would be no maff.
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I remember going to Tower Records in Bellevue and just walking the aisles looking at the cassettes and the CD's.
Sleeping outside to buy tickets to concerts there was a thing too. -
Ohms measure resistance. The lower the resistance the more current by ohm's law (current is voltage / resistance). If there is more current the speaker is louder. Impedance is a somewhat more refined term for resistance including effects of coils and capacitors and phase angles but in common usage resistance and impedance get conflated.YellowSnow said:Ok so @Southerndawg is tabbed for physics consultant of the music bored. Next up what is an OHM and how does that relate to speaker impedance.
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Sauerkraut was perhaps the Fatherland's greatest contribution to mankind. Kept the sea men from getting scurvy before citrus made its way onto voyages of exploration.Pitchfork51 said:
I actually just ate some sauerkrautYellowSnow said:
Fuck off and go eat a sauerkraut sammich.Pitchfork51 said:i hope all record stores go out of business
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Close. Without diving into a discussion on system dynamics, and assuming we're discussing speaker impedance, lower impedance means the speaker will draw more current at a given power setting than a higher impedance speaker will. Keeping it simple, by Ohms Law, P = IV = I^2R, P=power, V=voltage, I= current, R=resistance. Lower impedance does not mean the speaker will be louder, but it does mean it will pull more current from the amp at a given power setting, so low impedance speakers generally need high current amps to fully function lest the signal will clip and distort as the amp is stressed.ApostleofGrief said:
Ohms measure resistance. The lower the resistance the more current by ohm's law (current is voltage / resistance). If there is more current the speaker is louder. Impedance is a somewhat more refined term for resistance including effects of coils and capacitors and phase angles but in common usage resistance and impedance get conflated.YellowSnow said:Ok so @Southerndawg is tabbed for physics consultant of the music bored. Next up what is an OHM and how does that relate to speaker impedance.
It is also worth noting that speaker impedance is not fixed. Some designs, especially those that utilize electrostatic transducers can see dramatic dynamic impedance drops to one ohm or less. If you want something like that to sound good, you have to invest in a very good high current amp. -
Ok. I was reading around the internets and one thing to be aware of us drawing too much current from your amp. So if you swap out 8 ohm speakers for 4 ohm speakers and you are accustomed to a certain volume setting on your dial, you are pushing your amp harder to supply the current, so there is a risk of some kind of blow out somewhere. But, it seems like the kind of thing you can do by feel -- if your amp is smoking hot to the touch or your speakers are starting to distort back off the volume level.Southerndawg said:
Close. Without diving into a discussion on system dynamics, and assuming we're discussing speaker impedance, lower impedance means the speaker will draw more current at a given power setting than a higher impedance speaker will. Keeping it simple, by Ohms Law, P = IV = I^2R, P=power, V=voltage, I= current, R=resistance. Lower impedance does not mean the speaker will be louder, but it does mean it will pull more current from the amp at a given power setting, so low impedance speakers generally need high current amps to fully function lest the signal will clip and distort as the amp is stressed.ApostleofGrief said:
Ohms measure resistance. The lower the resistance the more current by ohm's law (current is voltage / resistance). If there is more current the speaker is louder. Impedance is a somewhat more refined term for resistance including effects of coils and capacitors and phase angles but in common usage resistance and impedance get conflated.YellowSnow said:Ok so @Southerndawg is tabbed for physics consultant of the music bored. Next up what is an OHM and how does that relate to speaker impedance.
It is also worth noting that speaker impedance is not fixed. Some designs, especially those that utilize electrostatic transducers can see dramatic dynamic impedance drops to one ohm or less. If you want something like that to sound good, you have to invest in a very good high current amp. -
This is why you need McIntosh Power Gaurd! No clipping. My McIntosh amp from circa 1980 has this. http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/power-guard.27366/ApostleofGrief said:
Ok. I was reading around the internets and one thing to be aware of us drawing too much current from your amp. So if you swap out 8 ohm speakers for 4 ohm speakers and you are accustomed to a certain volume setting on your dial, you are pushing your amp harder to supply the current, so there is a risk of some kind of blow out somewhere. But, it seems like the kind of thing you can do by feel -- if your amp is smoking hot to the touch or your speakers are starting to distort back off the volume level.Southerndawg said:
Close. Without diving into a discussion on system dynamics, and assuming we're discussing speaker impedance, lower impedance means the speaker will draw more current at a given power setting than a higher impedance speaker will. Keeping it simple, by Ohms Law, P = IV = I^2R, P=power, V=voltage, I= current, R=resistance. Lower impedance does not mean the speaker will be louder, but it does mean it will pull more current from the amp at a given power setting, so low impedance speakers generally need high current amps to fully function lest the signal will clip and distort as the amp is stressed.ApostleofGrief said:
Ohms measure resistance. The lower the resistance the more current by ohm's law (current is voltage / resistance). If there is more current the speaker is louder. Impedance is a somewhat more refined term for resistance including effects of coils and capacitors and phase angles but in common usage resistance and impedance get conflated.YellowSnow said:Ok so @Southerndawg is tabbed for physics consultant of the music bored. Next up what is an OHM and how does that relate to speaker impedance.
It is also worth noting that speaker impedance is not fixed. Some designs, especially those that utilize electrostatic transducers can see dramatic dynamic impedance drops to one ohm or less. If you want something like that to sound good, you have to invest in a very good high current amp. -
I inherited an old Harmon/Kardon amp. Stupidly I donated my Dad's old turntable, and just have a cheap one but the cartridge and needle are OK. I suppose I could blow my amp out -- on the back it says 8 ohms but my speakers are 4 ohm.YellowSnow said:
This is why you need McIntosh Power Gaurd! No clipping. My McIntosh amp from circa 1980 has this. http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/power-guard.27366/ApostleofGrief said:
Ok. I was reading around the internets and one thing to be aware of us drawing too much current from your amp. So if you swap out 8 ohm speakers for 4 ohm speakers and you are accustomed to a certain volume setting on your dial, you are pushing your amp harder to supply the current, so there is a risk of some kind of blow out somewhere. But, it seems like the kind of thing you can do by feel -- if your amp is smoking hot to the touch or your speakers are starting to distort back off the volume level.Southerndawg said:
Close. Without diving into a discussion on system dynamics, and assuming we're discussing speaker impedance, lower impedance means the speaker will draw more current at a given power setting than a higher impedance speaker will. Keeping it simple, by Ohms Law, P = IV = I^2R, P=power, V=voltage, I= current, R=resistance. Lower impedance does not mean the speaker will be louder, but it does mean it will pull more current from the amp at a given power setting, so low impedance speakers generally need high current amps to fully function lest the signal will clip and distort as the amp is stressed.ApostleofGrief said:
Ohms measure resistance. The lower the resistance the more current by ohm's law (current is voltage / resistance). If there is more current the speaker is louder. Impedance is a somewhat more refined term for resistance including effects of coils and capacitors and phase angles but in common usage resistance and impedance get conflated.YellowSnow said:Ok so @Southerndawg is tabbed for physics consultant of the music bored. Next up what is an OHM and how does that relate to speaker impedance.
It is also worth noting that speaker impedance is not fixed. Some designs, especially those that utilize electrostatic transducers can see dramatic dynamic impedance drops to one ohm or less. If you want something like that to sound good, you have to invest in a very good high current amp.
But, I think my original question about 45s vs 33rpm is answered. I think the most sound spectrum and true to life reproduction would be on the outer tracks of faster moving records. So the best would be from the outer edges of a 45rpm, the worst from the inner tracks of a 33rpm
While the geek details are interesting: Of course with volume, beer/drugs, and or women (sex/drugs/rockandroll or wine/women/song) it makes no difference whatsoever.
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