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2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
A CNBC All-America Economic Survey finds 52 percent of working adults say they haven't seen a change.

Just 32 percent of the working adults report taking home more money due to the tax cuts, which Trump signed into law late last year.


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/380598-poll-majority-of-americans-not-seeing-change-in-paychecks-due-to-tax-cuts?amp
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    I saw a 1.5% bump in my take home pay.



    Yippeee!!!!!!!
  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    Get a hobby hondo
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Bullshit

    So polls don't matter again. Got it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    The democrats should run this fall on eliminating the tax cuts

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The democrats should run this fall on eliminating the tax cuts

    What happens if Republicans lose seats in Congress after cutting taxes?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    They lose seats
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You sound like Fox news. Trumpet.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    I sound like a typical democrat in 2018
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    Only a committed liberal would deny that they are. Read the signs.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    Only a committed liberal would deny that they are. Read the signs.
    Read what people are actually saying. But keep on hiding in your basement clinging to your guns.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    I take people at their word

    Not everyone is gutless like you
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    edited March 2018
    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    Tax cuts ok! $1.3 trillion, WTF?

    Trump might be on to something bargaining tariffs for revised trade deals.

    Bad: Conservatives are getting the wall; Mexico is not paying for it.

    LIPO: Both sides need to fix Obamacare. Partisan bullshit aside, healthcare eats up a higher % of GDP every year. I’m ok paying a “little extra” for working Joe and Jane busting their ass but can’t afford medical care. If these fuckers, Dems or Repubs, can’t figure it out and fix, they need to GTFO.

    And fuck the polls. Who gives a shit if it’s 40% or 53%. Fuck Stormy Daniels. Fuck Sean Hannity. Handle your shit or GTFO.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Since governments are the biggest murderers in history your conclusion should be easy.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    edited March 2018
    I'll make this easy for Hondo.


  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Gun control does not equal confiscation. It's also worthless. Hand guns kill far more people

    The only gun control that works is to repeal the 2nd Ammendment and go get them.

    That's the honest debate . That's what Australia did.

    Conservatives won't go for that.
  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Sorry the AR15 I don’t think you should have is not going to save you from the tyrannical government. Hi Randy Weaver and Davey Koresch!

    An AR-15 is not going to beat an army equipped with AR-15s and cutting edge body armour. It’s not going to overcome the trained snipers sorrounding you, perched and poised to take your head off.

    Keep your shotguns, your semi auto pistols, hunting rifles etc. Let’s see how TUFF you are when forced to reload, your targets have fled, and the man trucks in.

    That is all.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Gun control does not equal confiscation. It's also worthless. Hand guns kill far more people

    The only gun control that works is to repeal the 2nd Ammendment and go get them.

    That's the honest debate . That's what Australia did.

    Conservatives won't go for that.
    But liberals CAN move to Austrailia.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    Didnt kip kinkel use his parents hunting rifle?

    Are we really having national demonstrations on bump stocks and AR 15s?

    That's silly
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Since governments are the biggest murderers in history your conclusion should be easy.
    Government's are a distant second to religion.

    HTH
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Gun control does not equal confiscation. It's also worthless. Hand guns kill far more people

    The only gun control that works is to repeal the 2nd Ammendment and go get them.

    That's the honest debate . That's what Australia did.

    Conservatives won't go for that.
    That's not what Australia did. Gun ownership is higher now than it was prior to the gun control in the late 90s. And the number of deaths from guns is much lower that prior.

    HTH
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    dnc said:

    2001400ex said:

    dflea said:

    Here's the winning platform

    Repeal the tax cuts and raise the corporate rate and all individual rates

    Repeal the 2nd Ammendment

    Lower the age to be President to 18 so Hogg can run

    Teach your children well, their father's hell yadda yadda yadda

    DO IT

    You're clearly underestmating the stupidity of Democrats if you think they aren't actually going to do exactly this.
    They already are

    Its a race to the bottom. Last week Ryan, McConnell and Trump pissed off their base who threatened to stay home

    Now the democrats rush to the rescue to get them to the polls by threatening their guns

    Stay tuned
    Only the ignorant think that liberals are trying to take guns.
    This is why I hate the gun control debate more than any other debate.

    Liberals are fucking liars and conservatives are fucking idiots. Later. Rinse. Repeat.

    Of course people are trying to take guns away. And there's damn good reasons for it. And 14 of the 15 conservative talking points on this are stupid. If gun control = taking guns away (which conservatives rightly believe) then hell fucking yes gun control would reduce the hell out of violent deaths. This is proven time and again globally. The denials are intellectually insulting.

    There is one good conservative argument against gun control - the government doing whatever the hell it wants to to its people. That's it, but it's a damn good argument.

    Here's all that needs to be discussed on gun control: Is it worth the potential of experiencing tyranny that comes with gun control in order to protect kids/others from mass shootings and gun violence.

    That's, that's the debate. I go back and forth on it. I lean towards no but I think there's good arguments on both sides.

    Anything else anyone ever says about gun control is stupid or dishonest or both. That's the only question that matters.
    Gun control does not equal confiscation. It's also worthless. Hand guns kill far more people

    The only gun control that works is to repeal the 2nd Ammendment and go get them.

    That's the honest debate . That's what Australia did.

    Conservatives won't go for that.
    That's not what Australia did. Gun ownership is higher now than it was prior to the gun control in the late 90s. And the number of deaths from guns is much lower that prior.

    HTH
    They never had much of a problem in the first place. Some societies don't kill each other much.

    If you check the stats here we have millions more guns in circulation and our homicide rate dropped to it's lowest in 50 years. But you don't mention actual facts.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    Hondo can't help but lie in every post
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Hondo can't help but lie in every post

    Show me one lie.