Guns or Liberty?
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Dumbsalemcoog said:
That's some deep academis shit there Creep.creepycoug said:
Exhibit Z-10002-a20-489372.Sledog said:
Coming from a box of rocks I'll take that as a complement. I was a world champion rifle shooter as well using the type of rifles we are talking about. You've just swallowed way to much leftist bullshit.creepycoug said:
No. You're just a poorly educated man who selectively reads, a little, about the half-dozen things he cares about.Sledog said:
Hondo has gone full libtard. Little chance of that Hondo. I'm good in all 50 states. Of course since I disagree with a liberal I must be crazy. Surprised you didn't call me a racist too. Is getting your ass whipped on the boreds really causing you to come unhinged or is it that time of the month? Maybe you forgot to pay your Saul Alinsky fan club dues and they took back your commie decoder ring. Whatever it is get over it, all this vaginal bleeding is gross and hard to look at.2001400ex said:
What happens when they see your and sledog posts on here and determines you mentally unfit to possess a fun. And take your guns away. How do you feel about mental health then?doogie said:
Here’s what the Florida Teacher of he Year has to say about it
Okay, I’ll be the bad guy and say what no one else is brave enough to say, but wants to say. I’ll take all the criticism and attacks from everyone because you know what? I’m a TEACHER. I live this life daily. And I wouldn’t do anything else! But I also know daily I could end up in an active shooter situation.
Until we, as a country, are willing to get serious and talk about mental health issues, lack of available care for the mental health issues, lack of discipline in the home, horrendous lack of parental support when the schools are trying to control horrible behavior at school (oh no! Not MY KID. What did YOU do to cause my kid to react that way?), lack of moral values, and yes, I’ll say it-violent video games that take away all sensitivity to ANY compassion for others’ lives, as well as reality TV that makes it commonplace for people to constantly scream up in each others’ faces and not value any other person but themselves, we will have a gun problem in school. Our kids don’t understand the permanency of death anymore!!!
I grew up with guns. Everyone knows that. But you know what? My parents NEVER supported any bad behavior from me. I was terrified of doing something bad at school, as I would have not had a life until I corrected the problem and straightened my ass out. My parents invaded my life. They knew where I was ALL the time. They made me have a curfew. They made me wake them up when I got home. They made me respect their rules. They had full control of their house, and at any time could and would go through every inch of my bedroom, backpack, pockets, anything! Parents: it’s time to STEP UP! Be the parent that actually gives a crap! Be the annoying mom that pries and knows what your kid is doing. STOP being their friend. They have enough “friends” at school. Be their parent. Being the “cool mom” means not a damn thing when either your kid is dead or your kid kills other people because they were allowed to have their space and privacy in YOUR HOME. I’ll say it again. My home was filled with guns growing up. For God’s sake, my daddy was an 82nd Airborne Ranger who lost half his face serving our country. But you know what? I never dreamed of shooting anyone with his guns. I never dreamed of taking one! I was taught respect for human life, compassion, rules, common decency, and most of all, I was taught that until I moved out, my life and bedroom wasn’t mine…it was theirs. And they were going to know what was happening because they loved me and wanted the best for me.
There. Say that I’m a horrible person. I didn’t bring up gun control, and I will refuse to debate it with anyone. This post wasn’t about gun control. This was me, loving the crap out of people and wanting the best for them. This was about my school babies and knowing that God created each one for greatness, and just wanting them to reach their futures. It’s about 20 years ago this year I started my teaching career. Violence was not this bad 20 years ago. Lack of compassion wasn’t this bad 20 years ago. And God knows 20 years ago that I wasn’t afraid daily to call a parent because I KNEW that 9 out of 10 would cuss me out, tell me to go to Hell, call the news on me, call the school board on me, or post all over FaceBook about me because I called to let them know what their child chose to do at school…because they are a NORMAL kid!!!!!
Those 17 lives mattered. When are we going to take our own responsibility seriously?
BTW, she's wrong on violent crime 20 years ago and she's a pussy if she can't handle a parent that's pissed because she's a bitch.
There are conservatives who, in their sleep, could rip Hondo into smithereens on virtually any topic. You're just not one of them. Your obtuse position on the constitution is a good example of your intellectual limitations. It's not a conservative/liberal matter; it is, rather, a "I know what the fuck I'm talking about" matter. You don't.
Perhaps the most telling example of who you are is your use of the world champion pistol shooter as a counter-argument to people asking legitimate questions about the availability of weapons that do a lot of work in a short period of time. Talk about missing the fucking point.
Don't twist. I like you. You're just really fucking stupid.
- even if a box of rocks calls you a dumb fuck, it still means you're being called a dumb fuck. dumb fuck.
- nobody every said you don't know your guns. that wasn't, at all, the point. surprise.
Your parents, the State and Federal Government should be knocking down the door on your Adobe asking for their money back. with interest in your arrears.
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Figured you for a queer! CITES is bullshit so queer on.Mosster47 said:
Cute. Out of all the poor day laborers that I know that are loaded up with automatic weapons, which is a huge number, none served.Sledog said:
They became popular because the way it works is all of the military men returning from the middle east wars buy what they used in battle. This same thing happened with bolt action rifles. Up until world war one Americans weapon of choice was the lever action rifle. Hell Winchester has sold more than 6 million model 1894's alone. They were the Klashnikov of the 19th century.Mosster47 said:Here is some reality;
I grew up in about as remote of a place as possible in the US. I'm almost 35 years old. Everyone owned guns, multiple guns. Ever people that didn't care about guns owned guns. There were still gun nuts/hoarders. I was way into gun. I knew every type of gun out there and the specs on it.
I saw two "assault rifles" in someone's possession my whole upbringing shooting guns on almost a daily basis. No one owned them. Why would they? They are fucking useless to the common man. They aren't nearly as accurate as a bolt gun unless you add so much shit to them they weight 10+lbs. They are useless for hunting birds. The home protection thing is a joke. Give me a Mossberg 590 in close quarters with a normal 8 shot quail load every time. If I miss you lose a limb at best. Then of course a revolver for a side arm. They don't fail. A small number of assault rifles were at gun shows and that was it.
Fast forward to today and all those broke loggers have more money in their gun safes than they do in everything else they have combined. I say gun safes because most have more than one. Your kid eats free and reduced lunched but you have two Liberty Fat Boys and you tell me you can't afford to go buy a drink?
I ask them what the fuck they need all these crazy ass guns for and they tell me it's because Obama was going to take their guns away. No one needed or much cared for an AR twenty five years ago now ever mother fucker with a GED and a bad job needs one for every member of the family? Grandstanding about freedom so you can go shoot cans? They use their bolt guns and shotguns to hunt still, like normal people.
Fox News got too good at scaring stupid white people. That's the long and short of this. Now there are WMD's on every corner and people are using them. Why wouldn't they? You give out opiods like Pez and people abuse them. The same goes for death machines with 50 round magazines.
After WWI the returning soldiers had used the 1903 Springfield or the 1917 Enfield in 30-06. From that point on bolt actions became the most popular hunting arms. Lever guns were and still are popular but they lacked the range and precision of the bolt gun.
WWII came along and while bolt actions served in the war the primary arm was the M1 Garand still chambered for the same 30-06 cartridge. The M1 Carbine and Browning BAR also cam along and semi-auto rifles became much more popular. The M1 carbine was ubiquitous from the 1950's until today. It's fully automatic variant was really one of the first "assault rifles" (FYI assault rifles are fully auto not this BS tag applied by democrats to semi-auto rifles). Semi-autos became much more popular in civilian life with many new models produced to cater to that demand.
The M14 rifle came along in the 1957 chambered for the 7.62 NATO round which is simply a shortened 30-06 giving equivalent ballistics. The M14 was also selective fire but the recoil in fully automatic fire is basically uncontrollable and most M14's had selector locks limiting them to semi-auto fire.
The M16 has been in service since 1964. Returning Vietnam vets and later Gulf wars vets wanted a civilian version. Of course these were semi-auto and not a selective fire weapon like the M16 which is an assault rifle being capable of full-auto fire. The AR15/M16/M4 are chambered for the 5.56mm cartridge, A pipsqueak compared to our former full powered service cartridges.
The AR15 is the most popular rifle in the United States. They can rival bolt actions for accuracy but the cartridge is not legal to hunt deer in many states. They are used in several forms of competitive shooting.
Handguns went through the same process. The 1911 pistol is still one of the most popular handguns in the world with virtually every manufacturer now making them.
That's why and how many firearms attained their popularity.
I've discussed this with tons of service members I've either worked with or by chance and the overwhelming majority are pro gun, antI WMD. The two I can think of with your double down constitution nonsense are exactly what you are thinking. Duck Dynasty beards, hate brown people, and mentally peaked in 7th grade.
Also ownership of something doesn't mean you agree with more of if. I have guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, but I don't think we should be raping the rainforest for it still. I've owned an AR and sold it after a few months because I'm not fake hard and they are useless.
Sledoog if you mention CITES I will literally come through your computer and fuck your face.
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ARMALITE TUFFSledog said:
Figured you for a queer!Mosster47 said:
Cute. Out of all the poor day laborers that I know that are loaded up with automatic weapons, which is a huge number, none served.Sledog said:
They became popular because the way it works is all of the military men returning from the middle east wars buy what they used in battle. This same thing happened with bolt action rifles. Up until world war one Americans weapon of choice was the lever action rifle. Hell Winchester has sold more than 6 million model 1894's alone. They were the Klashnikov of the 19th century.Mosster47 said:Here is some reality;
I grew up in about as remote of a place as possible in the US. I'm almost 35 years old. Everyone owned guns, multiple guns. Ever people that didn't care about guns owned guns. There were still gun nuts/hoarders. I was way into gun. I knew every type of gun out there and the specs on it.
I saw two "assault rifles" in someone's possession my whole upbringing shooting guns on almost a daily basis. No one owned them. Why would they? They are fucking useless to the common man. They aren't nearly as accurate as a bolt gun unless you add so much shit to them they weight 10+lbs. They are useless for hunting birds. The home protection thing is a joke. Give me a Mossberg 590 in close quarters with a normal 8 shot quail load every time. If I miss you lose a limb at best. Then of course a revolver for a side arm. They don't fail. A small number of assault rifles were at gun shows and that was it.
Fast forward to today and all those broke loggers have more money in their gun safes than they do in everything else they have combined. I say gun safes because most have more than one. Your kid eats free and reduced lunched but you have two Liberty Fat Boys and you tell me you can't afford to go buy a drink?
I ask them what the fuck they need all these crazy ass guns for and they tell me it's because Obama was going to take their guns away. No one needed or much cared for an AR twenty five years ago now ever mother fucker with a GED and a bad job needs one for every member of the family? Grandstanding about freedom so you can go shoot cans? They use their bolt guns and shotguns to hunt still, like normal people.
Fox News got too good at scaring stupid white people. That's the long and short of this. Now there are WMD's on every corner and people are using them. Why wouldn't they? You give out opiods like Pez and people abuse them. The same goes for death machines with 50 round magazines.
After WWI the returning soldiers had used the 1903 Springfield or the 1917 Enfield in 30-06. From that point on bolt actions became the most popular hunting arms. Lever guns were and still are popular but they lacked the range and precision of the bolt gun.
WWII came along and while bolt actions served in the war the primary arm was the M1 Garand still chambered for the same 30-06 cartridge. The M1 Carbine and Browning BAR also cam along and semi-auto rifles became much more popular. The M1 carbine was ubiquitous from the 1950's until today. It's fully automatic variant was really one of the first "assault rifles" (FYI assault rifles are fully auto not this BS tag applied by democrats to semi-auto rifles). Semi-autos became much more popular in civilian life with many new models produced to cater to that demand.
The M14 rifle came along in the 1957 chambered for the 7.62 NATO round which is simply a shortened 30-06 giving equivalent ballistics. The M14 was also selective fire but the recoil in fully automatic fire is basically uncontrollable and most M14's had selector locks limiting them to semi-auto fire.
The M16 has been in service since 1964. Returning Vietnam vets and later Gulf wars vets wanted a civilian version. Of course these were semi-auto and not a selective fire weapon like the M16 which is an assault rifle being capable of full-auto fire. The AR15/M16/M4 are chambered for the 5.56mm cartridge, A pipsqueak compared to our former full powered service cartridges.
The AR15 is the most popular rifle in the United States. They can rival bolt actions for accuracy but the cartridge is not legal to hunt deer in many states. They are used in several forms of competitive shooting.
Handguns went through the same process. The 1911 pistol is still one of the most popular handguns in the world with virtually every manufacturer now making them.
That's why and how many firearms attained their popularity.
I've discussed this with tons of service members I've either worked with or by chance and the overwhelming majority are pro gun, antI WMD. The two I can think of with your double down constitution nonsense are exactly what you are thinking. Duck Dynasty beards, hate brown people, and mentally peaked in 7th grade.
Also ownership of something doesn't mean you agree with more of if. I have guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, but I don't think we should be raping the rainforest for it still. I've owned an AR and sold it after a few months because I'm not fake hard and they are useless.
Sledoog if you mention CITES I will literally come through your computer and fuck your face. -
Why do you hate Madagascar and East India?YellowSnow said:
Save the rain forests! Bolt on necks with maple fret boards or GTFO!Mosster47 said:
Cute. Out of all the poor day laborers that I know that are loaded up with automatic weapons, which is a huge number, none served.Sledog said:
They became popular because the way it works is all of the military men returning from the middle east wars buy what they used in battle. This same thing happened with bolt action rifles. Up until world war one Americans weapon of choice was the lever action rifle. Hell Winchester has sold more than 6 million model 1894's alone. They were the Klashnikov of the 19th century.Mosster47 said:Here is some reality;
I grew up in about as remote of a place as possible in the US. I'm almost 35 years old. Everyone owned guns, multiple guns. Ever people that didn't care about guns owned guns. There were still gun nuts/hoarders. I was way into gun. I knew every type of gun out there and the specs on it.
I saw two "assault rifles" in someone's possession my whole upbringing shooting guns on almost a daily basis. No one owned them. Why would they? They are fucking useless to the common man. They aren't nearly as accurate as a bolt gun unless you add so much shit to them they weight 10+lbs. They are useless for hunting birds. The home protection thing is a joke. Give me a Mossberg 590 in close quarters with a normal 8 shot quail load every time. If I miss you lose a limb at best. Then of course a revolver for a side arm. They don't fail. A small number of assault rifles were at gun shows and that was it.
Fast forward to today and all those broke loggers have more money in their gun safes than they do in everything else they have combined. I say gun safes because most have more than one. Your kid eats free and reduced lunched but you have two Liberty Fat Boys and you tell me you can't afford to go buy a drink?
I ask them what the fuck they need all these crazy ass guns for and they tell me it's because Obama was going to take their guns away. No one needed or much cared for an AR twenty five years ago now ever mother fucker with a GED and a bad job needs one for every member of the family? Grandstanding about freedom so you can go shoot cans? They use their bolt guns and shotguns to hunt still, like normal people.
Fox News got too good at scaring stupid white people. That's the long and short of this. Now there are WMD's on every corner and people are using them. Why wouldn't they? You give out opiods like Pez and people abuse them. The same goes for death machines with 50 round magazines.
After WWI the returning soldiers had used the 1903 Springfield or the 1917 Enfield in 30-06. From that point on bolt actions became the most popular hunting arms. Lever guns were and still are popular but they lacked the range and precision of the bolt gun.
WWII came along and while bolt actions served in the war the primary arm was the M1 Garand still chambered for the same 30-06 cartridge. The M1 Carbine and Browning BAR also cam along and semi-auto rifles became much more popular. The M1 carbine was ubiquitous from the 1950's until today. It's fully automatic variant was really one of the first "assault rifles" (FYI assault rifles are fully auto not this BS tag applied by democrats to semi-auto rifles). Semi-autos became much more popular in civilian life with many new models produced to cater to that demand.
The M14 rifle came along in the 1957 chambered for the 7.62 NATO round which is simply a shortened 30-06 giving equivalent ballistics. The M14 was also selective fire but the recoil in fully automatic fire is basically uncontrollable and most M14's had selector locks limiting them to semi-auto fire.
The M16 has been in service since 1964. Returning Vietnam vets and later Gulf wars vets wanted a civilian version. Of course these were semi-auto and not a selective fire weapon like the M16 which is an assault rifle being capable of full-auto fire. The AR15/M16/M4 are chambered for the 5.56mm cartridge, A pipsqueak compared to our former full powered service cartridges.
The AR15 is the most popular rifle in the United States. They can rival bolt actions for accuracy but the cartridge is not legal to hunt deer in many states. They are used in several forms of competitive shooting.
Handguns went through the same process. The 1911 pistol is still one of the most popular handguns in the world with virtually every manufacturer now making them.
That's why and how many firearms attained their popularity.
I've discussed this with tons of service members I've either worked with or by chance and the overwhelming majority are pro gun, antI WMD. The two I can think of with your double down constitution nonsense are exactly what you are thinking. Duck Dynasty beards, hate brown people, and mentally peaked in 7th grade.
Also ownership of something doesn't mean you agree with more of if. I have guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, but I don't think we should be raping the rainforest for it still. I've owned an AR and sold it after a few months because I'm not fake hard and they are useless.
Sledoog if you mention CITES I will literally come through your computer and fuck your face.
