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Why this isn't like Watergate

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    Well that has nothing to do with the subject
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Well that has nothing to do with the subject

    It does if you know what you are looking at.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,843 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2018
    Dude61 said:

    Each day more evidence points to criminal sedition by Obama/DOJ/FBI/DNC/Clinton against Trump.

    Some on the board are having a hard time accepting this truth.

    It's being worked on. The statute of limitations hasn't run out!

    Then there is Obama money flowing to terrorists.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/7/inside-the-ring-obama-era-cash-traced-to-iran-back/
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Dude61 said:

    Each day more evidence points to criminal sedition by Obama/DOJ/FBI/DNC/Clinton against Trump.

    Some on the board are having a hard time accepting this truth.

    It's being worked on. The statute of limitations hasn't run out!

    Then there is Obama money flowing to terrorists.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/7/inside-the-ring-obama-era-cash-traced-to-iran-back/
    Did you hear that Hillary also ran a child sex ring from a pizza place? Fucking criminals.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,932 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Dude61 said:

    Each day more evidence points to criminal sedition by Obama/DOJ/FBI/DNC/Clinton against Trump.

    Some on the board are having a hard time accepting this truth.

    It's being worked on. The statute of limitations hasn't run out!

    Then there is Obama money flowing to terrorists.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/7/inside-the-ring-obama-era-cash-traced-to-iran-back/
    Did you hear that Hillary also ran a child sex ring from a pizza place? Fucking criminals.
    We did hear.

    And here you are defending her every move, pedo bear.




    #aclockworkshill
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,843 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Dude61 said:

    Each day more evidence points to criminal sedition by Obama/DOJ/FBI/DNC/Clinton against Trump.

    Some on the board are having a hard time accepting this truth.

    It's being worked on. The statute of limitations hasn't run out!

    Then there is Obama money flowing to terrorists.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/7/inside-the-ring-obama-era-cash-traced-to-iran-back/
    Did you hear that Hillary also ran a child sex ring from a pizza place? Fucking criminals.
    Bad part is no one would put that past her except you!
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,211

    Nixon wanted to use the FBI and the CIA to get the local police to back off the burglary investigation. They refused. When Nixon want his AG to fire Cox he resigned instead. Our institutions put their integrity, such as it was and is, before helping the President. Then Nixon's own party led by Goldwater told him enough is enough and he resigned.

    Obama wanted to use the FBI and the DOJ and the Intel agencies to block the investigation of Hillary and to spy on Trump and they all said hell yes. We have proof of this coming out everyday no matter how much you want to deny it.

    Comey attacked the integrity of the FBI and Lynch destroyed the integrity of the DOJ on the tarmac in Arizona when she met Bill.

    Nixon wanted the IRS to go after political opponents. Obama wanted Lerner to and she did. That is proven

    This isn't Watergate. Its worse

    As always, if you find anything close to this on Trump we can talk about Trump. If not it is just a deflection from the bad actors here

    What does this have to do with Miami?
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Nixon wanted to use the FBI and the CIA to get the local police to back off the burglary investigation. They refused. When Nixon want his AG to fire Cox he resigned instead. Our institutions put their integrity, such as it was and is, before helping the President. Then Nixon's own party led by Goldwater told him enough is enough and he resigned.

    Obama wanted to use the FBI and the DOJ and the Intel agencies to block the investigation of Hillary and to spy on Trump and they all said hell yes. We have proof of this coming out everyday no matter how much you want to deny it.

    Comey attacked the integrity of the FBI and Lynch destroyed the integrity of the DOJ on the tarmac in Arizona when she met Bill.

    Nixon wanted the IRS to go after political opponents. Obama wanted Lerner to and she did. That is proven

    This isn't Watergate. Its worse

    As always, if you find anything close to this on Trump we can talk about Trump. If not it is just a deflection from the bad actors here

    The lament of the MAGAs: The deep state spied on carter page; abused its authority; spied on trump!1!1

    Meaning that: this is bigger than watergate! Spying! Bias! Can this happen in America?

    Resulting in: NOC, (enjoy your inflation-hope you can afford it!)

    Meanwhile: trump lets McConnell govern like the love child of Jeb bush and Paul Ryan.

    Finally: Rosenstein, Comey, McAbe, Lerner, Lynch, Yates et al will retire here in luxury with Golden State medals of Honor. WDWtA.

  • ThomasFremontThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Sounds like the science is settled.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Boobs, Hondo, Fremont were all shredded in this thread.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    Its simple...in Watergate you had Republicans that looked at what happened and said they didn't approve.

    Now no matter what laws were broken and whatever happened you won't see a single Democrat look at the same thing and say it was wrong. They will defend their own until the bitter end...hell look at HondoFS, boobs and Cirrhosis of the brain as examples...
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    Its simple...in Watergate you had Republicans that looked at what happened and said they didn't approve.

    Now no matter what laws were broken and whatever happened you won't see a single Democrat look at the same thing and say it was wrong. They will defend their own until the bitter end...hell look at HondoFS, boobs and Cirrhosis of the brain as examples...

    lol

  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Its simple...in Watergate you had Republicans that looked at what happened and said they didn't approve.

    Now no matter what laws were broken and whatever happened you won't see a single Democrat look at the same thing and say it was wrong. They will defend their own until the bitter end...hell look at HondoFS, boobs and Cirrhosis of the brain as examples...

    So what you are saying is:
    Hillary (the evil genius) bullied trump;
    and Trump is a victim.

    Did someone bully you too?

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,405 Founders Club
    edited February 2018
    Saying Fisagate, Russiagate, etc, at this moment in time is like/not like or worse/not worse than Watergate is akin to predicting the outcome of that scandal in mid 1973. Way too much popping off by both the left and right on this deal before the ALL of the facts are in.

  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Saying Fisagate, Russiagate, etc, at this moment in time is like/not like or worse/not worse than Watergate is akin to predicting the outcome of that scandal in mid 1973. Way too much popping off by both the left and right on this deal before the ALL of the facts are in.

    Despite your reasonable sounding post, you are obviously not aware of the skulduggery perpetrated upon trump, a political neophyte and unwitting VICTIM! Justice (prison or hanging) must be served!

    Spying! Bias! Worse than watergate! Can this happen in America?

    It’s true. You can read about it online. Case closed. End of discussion.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    dflea said:

    Its simple...in Watergate you had Republicans that looked at what happened and said they didn't approve.

    Now no matter what laws were broken and whatever happened you won't see a single Democrat look at the same thing and say it was wrong. They will defend their own until the bitter end...hell look at HondoFS, boobs and Cirrhosis of the brain as examples...

    lol

    Sorry...forgot to include you in the ship of fools...
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233

    dflea said:

    Its simple...in Watergate you had Republicans that looked at what happened and said they didn't approve.

    Now no matter what laws were broken and whatever happened you won't see a single Democrat look at the same thing and say it was wrong. They will defend their own until the bitter end...hell look at HondoFS, boobs and Cirrhosis of the brain as examples...

    lol

    Sorry...forgot to include you in the ship of fools...
    I bet you did, you Republican cockgobbler-apologist.

    You're such a fucking clown.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    A long but great article by Andrew McCarthy (former assistant US Attorney) detailing the various frauds from the FISA aspect.

    I'm sure its too long for Boobs and flea to comprehend and we already know there is no hope for HondoFS and Cirrhosis of the brain...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456287/grassley-graham-memo-affirms-nunes-memo-fisa-steele-dossier

    a few excerpts...

    As I outlined at greater length last week (here, in section C), in applying for a warrant, the government must establish the reliability of the informants who witnessed the alleged facts claimed to support a probable-cause finding. Steele was not one of those witnesses. He is not the source of the facts. He is the purveyor of the sources — anonymous Russians, much of whose alleged information is based on hearsay, sometimes multiple steps removed from direct knowledge. Steele has not been in Russia since his cover as a British spy was blown nearly 20 years ago. He has sources, who have sources, who have sources . . . and so on. None of his information is better than third-hand; most of it is more attenuated than that.
    ...

    Let that sink in, then think about this contrast: No actual FBI agent, no matter how renowned, would be able to get a judicial warrant based solely on his own reliability as an investigator. Jim Comey, despite having a résumé geometrically more impressive than Steele’s, including Senate confirmations to some of federal law-enforcement’s loftiest positions, would not be given a warrant based on representations to the court that the FBI, the Justice Department, the president, and the Senate all attested to his impeccable reliability. The only reliability that counts is the reliability of the factual informants, not of the investigator who purports to channel the informants. The judge wants to know why the court should believe the specific factual claims: Was the informant truly in a position to witness what is alleged, and if so, does the informant have a track record of providing verified information? The track record of the investigator who locates the sources is beside the point. A judge would need to know whether Steele’s sources were reliable, not whether Steele himself was reliable.
    ...

    In fact, they kept telling the FISA court he was reliable even after Steele himself admitted to a British court that his dossier wasn’t at all reliable.

    What’s that? Am I kidding? No.
    ...

    Even though there was still no meaningful corroboration of Steele’s sources after months of investigation, even though Steele had lied to them, the FBI and Justice Department represented again and again, in April and June 2017, that the FISA court could confidently bank on Steele’s reliability. By early 2017, however, Steele was being sued for libel in Britain, among other places, by people accused of misconduct in the dossier.

    Truth is a defense to libel. Suffice it to say, it was not Steele’s defense.
    ...

    I spent many months assuring people that nothing like this could ever happen — that the FBI and Justice Department would not countenance the provision to the FISA court of uncorroborated allegations of heinous misconduct. When Trump enthusiasts accused them of rigging the process, I countered that they probably had not even used the Steele dossier. If the Justice Department had used it in writing a FISA warrant application, I insisted that the FBI would independently verify any important facts presented to the court, make any disclosures that ought in fairness be made so the judge could evaluate the credibility of the sources, and compellingly demonstrate probable cause before alleging that an American was a foreign agent.

    I was wrong.
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