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If you elect the "King of Debt" what happens

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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Trump is a fiscal conservative in the Reagan mold. Reducing deficits isn't what fiscal conservatism is about.

    HTH

    Reagan did actually care about deficits and when he saw too much red ink as a result of his tax cuts and increased defense spending, he did enact changes to the tax code to "broaden the base" and increase revenues. "Read my lips" Bush 41 raised revenue as well and it didn't hurt the economy.

    People forget Clinton raised taxes so much he lost control of Congress. And the economy flourished.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,932 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Trump is a fiscal conservative in the Reagan mold. Reducing deficits isn't what fiscal conservatism is about.

    HTH

    Reagan did actually care about deficits and when he saw too much red ink as a result of his tax cuts and increased defense spending, he did enact changes to the tax code to "broaden the base" and increase revenues. "Read my lips" Bush 41 raised revenue as well and it didn't hurt the economy.

    People forget Clinton raised taxes so much he lost control of Congress. And the economy flourished.
    Simply amazing how much fucking stupid can be compacted into just 16 words.


  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,156 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    whlinder said:

    Yes. It’s beyond fucking stupid to increase borrowing and rack up debt when the economy is in decent shape.

    Not necessarily.

    If he's talking about true infrastructure improvements and capital budgets, it's pretty fucking smart to bond out and rebuild with cheap money. Bridges are crumbling and roads are shit. The interweb is nowhere near where it could be in most communities without paying godawful amounts, relative to other places in the world.

    If there's one thing 'Mericans are good at it, it's finance and shit. Build shit with cheap money. Bond it out while the repayment source looks solid.

    Just because the economy is good right now doesn't mean the U.S. can put off deferred maintenance much longer. Plus the jobs created could be the impetus some fucks need to get off the dole. I like that Trump is prioritizing build shit. Because that's how shit gets built.
    It's funny the perspective of the Obama stimulus versus Trump's infrastructure plan. When they basically are the same thing.
    They are establishment plans that don't work. Thankfully we have you here sucking the dick of the Establishment Queen.


    #aclockworkshill
    So you'll scream as loudly when Trump does his infrastructure plan as you did when the black man was in office?
    The black man didn't have a plan. Of course you forget he's half white. Normally scorned and belittled by other blacks. Unless it's a convenient way to say he's the first black president.
    The first back President was Bill Clinton. Race voted for him. I did not.
    Jefferson was the first black president. Gots to have a little something something on the side in the form of brown sugar.

    Bill Clinton just liked huge asses.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,405 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    whlinder said:

    Yes. It’s beyond fucking stupid to increase borrowing and rack up debt when the economy is in decent shape.

    Not necessarily.

    If he's talking about true infrastructure improvements and capital budgets, it's pretty fucking smart to bond out and rebuild with cheap money. Bridges are crumbling and roads are shit. The interweb is nowhere near where it could be in most communities without paying godawful amounts, relative to other places in the world.

    If there's one thing 'Mericans are good at it, it's finance and shit. Build shit with cheap money. Bond it out while the repayment source looks solid.

    Just because the economy is good right now doesn't mean the U.S. can put off deferred maintenance much longer. Plus the jobs created could be the impetus some fucks need to get off the dole. I like that Trump is prioritizing build shit. Because that's how shit gets built.
    It's funny the perspective of the Obama stimulus versus Trump's infrastructure plan. When they basically are the same thing.
    They are establishment plans that don't work. Thankfully we have you here sucking the dick of the Establishment Queen.


    #aclockworkshill
    So you'll scream as loudly when Trump does his infrastructure plan as you did when the black man was in office?
    The black man didn't have a plan. Of course you forget he's half white. Normally scorned and belittled by other blacks. Unless it's a convenient way to say he's the first black president.
    The first back President was Bill Clinton. Race voted for him. I did not.
    Jefferson was the first black president. Gots to have a little something something on the side in the form of brown sugar.

    Bill Clinton just liked huge asses.

    Sally Hemmings was about as #lighskinnedU as is gets though.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,156 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    whlinder said:

    Yes. It’s beyond fucking stupid to increase borrowing and rack up debt when the economy is in decent shape.

    Not necessarily.

    If he's talking about true infrastructure improvements and capital budgets, it's pretty fucking smart to bond out and rebuild with cheap money. Bridges are crumbling and roads are shit. The interweb is nowhere near where it could be in most communities without paying godawful amounts, relative to other places in the world.

    If there's one thing 'Mericans are good at it, it's finance and shit. Build shit with cheap money. Bond it out while the repayment source looks solid.

    Just because the economy is good right now doesn't mean the U.S. can put off deferred maintenance much longer. Plus the jobs created could be the impetus some fucks need to get off the dole. I like that Trump is prioritizing build shit. Because that's how shit gets built.
    It's funny the perspective of the Obama stimulus versus Trump's infrastructure plan. When they basically are the same thing.
    They are establishment plans that don't work. Thankfully we have you here sucking the dick of the Establishment Queen.


    #aclockworkshill
    So you'll scream as loudly when Trump does his infrastructure plan as you did when the black man was in office?
    The black man didn't have a plan. Of course you forget he's half white. Normally scorned and belittled by other blacks. Unless it's a convenient way to say he's the first black president.
    The first back President was Bill Clinton. Race voted for him. I did not.
    Jefferson was the first black president. Gots to have a little something something on the side in the form of brown sugar.

    Bill Clinton just liked huge asses.

    Sally Hemmings was about as #lighskinnedU as is gets though.


    Jalessa was always hating on Whitley and Denise. Not cool. Not cool at all.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Trump is a fiscal conservative in the Reagan mold. Reducing deficits isn't what fiscal conservatism is about.

    HTH

    Reagan did actually care about deficits and when he saw too much red ink as a result of his tax cuts and increased defense spending, he did enact changes to the tax code to "broaden the base" and increase revenues. "Read my lips" Bush 41 raised revenue as well and it didn't hurt the economy.

    People forget Clinton raised taxes so much he lost control of Congress. And the economy flourished.
    Simply amazing how much fucking stupid can be compacted into just 16 words.


    Please to be hearing how what I said is wrong.
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,843 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    whlinder said:

    Yes. It’s beyond fucking stupid to increase borrowing and rack up debt when the economy is in decent shape.

    Not necessarily.

    If he's talking about true infrastructure improvements and capital budgets, it's pretty fucking smart to bond out and rebuild with cheap money. Bridges are crumbling and roads are shit. The interweb is nowhere near where it could be in most communities without paying godawful amounts, relative to other places in the world.

    If there's one thing 'Mericans are good at it, it's finance and shit. Build shit with cheap money. Bond it out while the repayment source looks solid.

    Just because the economy is good right now doesn't mean the U.S. can put off deferred maintenance much longer. Plus the jobs created could be the impetus some fucks need to get off the dole. I like that Trump is prioritizing build shit. Because that's how shit gets built.
    It's funny the perspective of the Obama stimulus versus Trump's infrastructure plan. When they basically are the same thing.
    They are establishment plans that don't work. Thankfully we have you here sucking the dick of the Establishment Queen.


    #aclockworkshill
    So you'll scream as loudly when Trump does his infrastructure plan as you did when the black man was in office?
    The black man didn't have a plan. Of course you forget he's half white. Normally scorned and belittled by other blacks. Unless it's a convenient way to say he's the first black president.
    The first back President was Bill Clinton. Race voted for him. I did not.
    He liked black hookers!
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    If we're bashing light skinned black chicks I'm out
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    2001400ex said:

    Trump is a fiscal conservative in the Reagan mold. Reducing deficits isn't what fiscal conservatism is about.

    HTH

    Reagan did actually care about deficits and when he saw too much red ink as a result of his tax cuts and increased defense spending, he did enact changes to the tax code to "broaden the base" and increase revenues. "Read my lips" Bush 41 raised revenue as well and it didn't hurt the economy.

    A little misleading. Reagan did not have control of congress, he did what he could under those circumstances. He cared about deficits and was regretful for bargaining with the dems to get his tax cuts passed in exchange for allowing them to tie tax cuts to spending increases that outpaced the increase in revenues realized by the tax cuts. If he had control of congress, there would have been real spending cuts in lieu of tax code changes to "broaden the base".
    Waiting for this logic to be applied equally.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,296 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Trump is a fiscal conservative in the Reagan mold. Reducing deficits isn't what fiscal conservatism is about.

    HTH

    Reagan did actually care about deficits and when he saw too much red ink as a result of his tax cuts and increased defense spending, he did enact changes to the tax code to "broaden the base" and increase revenues. "Read my lips" Bush 41 raised revenue as well and it didn't hurt the economy.

    People forget Clinton raised taxes so much he lost control of Congress. And the economy flourished.
    It didn't "flourish" until welfare reform, a reduction in capital gains taxes, an increase in the death tax exemption, and a flurry of business de-regulation. These things happened after he got his ass handed to him in the 1994 mid-terms. And why did he get his ass kicked in the 1994 mid-terms? HillaryCare and tax increases, along with some other incredibly libtarded positions that pissed a lot of people off.
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