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Tailgater
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I wouldn't normally give a rip, but curiosity led me to look at Oregon's 2013 schedule and how the ducks had performed up until the speckeled egg they laid in Palo Alto on Thursday evening. I'm sure none of this is news to you doogs who are duck obsessed believing the foul birds walk upside-down underwater as well as float along on top of it, but what tough competitive opposition tested Oregon before they ran up against an average Stanford team? The duck's schedule before running into their annual tree or pothole was mostly cupcakes and air:
Cupcakes: OOC's Nicholls State and Virginia; and Pac-12's CAL, Colorado, and WSU..... all gave up 55 or more points to UO while scoring 16 or less with the exception of the sodbusters who lost to the ducks in Pullman 38-62.
Hunters:: OOC Tennessee and Pac-12's UW and UCLA - it can possibly be said that these three teams were in the hunt to bag some ducks, but showed up at the blind with not enough deeks and shells poorly loaded and bought cheap. The Vols (4-6) were blown-off the scoreboard 14-59 by the ducks in Autsen, but can still get bowl eligible by beating Vandy and Kentuk. UCLA also lost at Autsen and were competitive for a half before smothering in feathers by four TD's 14-42. Amazingly, it was the SarkDawgs in Husky Stadium that gave Oregon it's stiffest test prior to Palo Alto (quack like The Alamo) before losing by three TD's 24-45. I watched that game on TV and it didn't seem that close, but those of you who saw it live can testify better than the mini-view I was allowed by TV moguls.
Air: Oregon had two Byes (same as UW) on their 2013 schedule with the second coming just before their loss to Stanford. Obviously, the Bye before Palo Alto didn't seem to help, but would the ducks of had their Heisman candidate QB on that trip without it ? More important I think than Byes are the absence of South Division powers USC and ASU from the duck's schedule, especially given the way both teams are performing late in the season.
Oregon has three games remaining with Utah and OSU at home in Autsen sandwiched around a road trip south to play Arizona. It doesn't seem possible, but the ducks could drown in the desert. As we know all too well, the Wildcats at home can be difficult and even though we still have two conference brethren in the BCS top-10, the Pac-12 is again shaping up to be a weak West Coast sister and the kind of football conference where the second year guy at ASU and/or whomever the new guy hired at USC might be...... could dominate in the near future.
So what makes Oregon duck football,..... or for that matter Stanford Tree football so special? I know that this may be my opinion alone, but the football programs of both schools are overrated by the so-called national experts and the reason for that is clear. Compared to the past, even just ten years ago, the Pac-10 (turned -12) is weak..... weak..... WEAK! This is the only explanation for how collegiate football programs such as those at Oregon and Stanford can somehow rise to the top. I've said it before and I can't say it enough...... the Pac-12 can only return to it's former prominent standing in major college football to challenge the SEC, ACC, and Big-12 when the traditional football schools USC, UCLA, UW, ASU, and now CU rise and take back control of our gridiron domain from the flighty and gimmicky. The time to rise again is now,...... but it's been NOW for at least a decade.
Cupcakes: OOC's Nicholls State and Virginia; and Pac-12's CAL, Colorado, and WSU..... all gave up 55 or more points to UO while scoring 16 or less with the exception of the sodbusters who lost to the ducks in Pullman 38-62.
Hunters:: OOC Tennessee and Pac-12's UW and UCLA - it can possibly be said that these three teams were in the hunt to bag some ducks, but showed up at the blind with not enough deeks and shells poorly loaded and bought cheap. The Vols (4-6) were blown-off the scoreboard 14-59 by the ducks in Autsen, but can still get bowl eligible by beating Vandy and Kentuk. UCLA also lost at Autsen and were competitive for a half before smothering in feathers by four TD's 14-42. Amazingly, it was the SarkDawgs in Husky Stadium that gave Oregon it's stiffest test prior to Palo Alto (quack like The Alamo) before losing by three TD's 24-45. I watched that game on TV and it didn't seem that close, but those of you who saw it live can testify better than the mini-view I was allowed by TV moguls.
Air: Oregon had two Byes (same as UW) on their 2013 schedule with the second coming just before their loss to Stanford. Obviously, the Bye before Palo Alto didn't seem to help, but would the ducks of had their Heisman candidate QB on that trip without it ? More important I think than Byes are the absence of South Division powers USC and ASU from the duck's schedule, especially given the way both teams are performing late in the season.
Oregon has three games remaining with Utah and OSU at home in Autsen sandwiched around a road trip south to play Arizona. It doesn't seem possible, but the ducks could drown in the desert. As we know all too well, the Wildcats at home can be difficult and even though we still have two conference brethren in the BCS top-10, the Pac-12 is again shaping up to be a weak West Coast sister and the kind of football conference where the second year guy at ASU and/or whomever the new guy hired at USC might be...... could dominate in the near future.
So what makes Oregon duck football,..... or for that matter Stanford Tree football so special? I know that this may be my opinion alone, but the football programs of both schools are overrated by the so-called national experts and the reason for that is clear. Compared to the past, even just ten years ago, the Pac-10 (turned -12) is weak..... weak..... WEAK! This is the only explanation for how collegiate football programs such as those at Oregon and Stanford can somehow rise to the top. I've said it before and I can't say it enough...... the Pac-12 can only return to it's former prominent standing in major college football to challenge the SEC, ACC, and Big-12 when the traditional football schools USC, UCLA, UW, ASU, and now CU rise and take back control of our gridiron domain from the flighty and gimmicky. The time to rise again is now,...... but it's been NOW for at least a decade.
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When you are really good like Oregon is you typically have 9-10 gimme wins.
Going into 1991 James said he knew worst case scenario that team was going 10-1. -
Oregon and Stanford are legit. Sounds like a lot of emotion went into that post.
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Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Oregon and Stanford are not cupcakes, I'll admit, but they couldn't stay on the field with the 1991 Huskies........ nor in 2013 with Alabama, Florida State, Auburn, Ohio State, and the other top-10 BCS teams east of the Missouri/ Rio Grande rivers.
Ten gimme cupcakes on the 1991Huskies' schedule would of had to include one of either Nebraska in Lincoln or USC in the Coliseum. There are a number of reasons why the quality of Pac-10(or-12) football has changed including the perspective of the vanquished. Perhaps it's not fashionable here to see that Husky Football now resides deep in the land of the vanquished,..... even as viewed from the comfort of luxury suites. -
USC was terrible that year going 3-8. The only tough game heading into the year was Nebraska. Then Cal became a good team which nobody really saw coming.Tailgater said:Oregon and Stanford are not cupcakes, I'll admit, but they couldn't stay on the field with the 1991 Huskies........ nor in 2013 with Alabama, Florida State, Auburn, Ohio State, and the other top-10 BCS teams east of the Missouri/ Rio Grande rivers.
Ten gimme cupcakes on the 1991Huskies' schedule would of had to include one of either Nebraska in Lincoln or USC in the Coliseum. There are a number of reasons why the quality of Pac-10(or-12) football has changed including the perspective of the vanquished. Perhaps it's not fashionable here to see that Husky Football now resides deep in the land of the vanquished,..... even as viewed from the comfort of luxury suites. -
Stanford doesn't really blow anyone out. But they hang with anyone also and don't beat themselves. The 91 huskies were considered one best PAC 10 teams since mckays use teams in the 70's so I am not sure of your point. Sure oregon and Stanford are not the best teams of an era.
The acc hasn't done shit since 2001 with the good Miami teams. I'm not sold on any team from that conference til I see it but fsu looks legit.
This whole logic sounds doogish to make us feel like oregon and Stanford will fail because when uw is good it is better than oregon and Stanford's good.
Oregon lost and it brought out a lot of the doogish ness on the board. -
A lack of respect for Oregon is doogish? My my, I can't imagine how doogish it must be to ignore Oregon completely as I for one find it so very easy to do. Being doogish must be a convoluted art if it takes putting the likes of Oregon and Stanford high enough on a pedestal to lose perspective of just how far Husky Football has fallen below 1991 or what it should be still.
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Relive the glory days all you want. Oregon is a great program for right now at least. See how the new coach does moving forward. The pac 10 sucked in 91 outside of two teams.
Doogish comes from overblowing the faults of other programs. Stanford and oregon will eventually come back to the pack. It's cyclical. But they are both good nationally respected programs that seem to finish in the top 10 every year and likely are representing the PAC 12 in the playoffs moving forward depending on who USC hires or if ucla turns out to be a legit threat. I don't understand why this is hard to understand. Their runs at the top are not much different than any success uw had under James. -
We had two tough games in 1991, @ Cal and @ USC. The defense won both games. We stopped Cal from scoring on their last drive, and the D held USC's offense in check all day, while Beno pounded the ball. BJ had an off day at USC, plus the USC secondary played great. UNLIKE SARK, DJ went to 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense to win the game at USC.He_Needs_More_Time said:When you are really good like Oregon is you typically have 9-10 gimme wins.
Going into 1991 James said he knew worst case scenario that team was going 10-1.
Sark never thought to try that at ASU.
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You must have missed this post later on in the threaddeath2ducks said:
We had two tough games in 1991, @ Cal and @ USC. The defense won both games. We stopped Cal from scoring on their last drive, and the D held USC's offense in check all day, while Beno pounded the ball. BJ had an off day at USC, plus the USC secondary played great. UNLIKE SARK, DJ went to 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense to win the game at USC.He_Needs_More_Time said:When you are really good like Oregon is you typically have 9-10 gimme wins.
Going into 1991 James said he knew worst case scenario that team was going 10-1.
Sark never thought to try that at ASU.
USC was terrible that year going 3-8. The only tough game heading into the year was Nebraska. Then Cal became a good team which nobody really saw coming.
As for USC the Huskies led by two scores so the game although close was never in doubt.
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