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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    edited January 2018
    allpurpleallgold said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Doogles said:

    I love Lavar because he is Trump, but he's wrong here.

    That being said coaching in the NBA less important than the NFL. The Zen master didn't just forget how to coach in New York right?

    I don't love this argument. The Browns would still suck if Belichick took over.
    People forget that Bill Belichick was the last Cleveland Browns coach to win a playoff game.
    His record in Cleveland was 36-44.
    That's great success in Cleveland, especially considering the team tanked when Modell announced he was moving the team:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Cleveland_Browns_season

    EDIT: PAT HILL FUCKING TUFF was one of his assistants. I did not know that.
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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    edited January 2018
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Doogles said:

    I love Lavar because he is Trump, but he's wrong here.

    That being said coaching in the NBA less important than the NFL. The Zen master didn't just forget how to coach in New York right?

    I don't love this argument. The Browns would still suck if Belichick took over.
    People forget that Bill Belichick was the last Cleveland Browns coach to win a playoff game.
    His record in Cleveland was 36-44.
    That's great success in Cleveland, especially considering the team tanked when Modell announced he was moving the team:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Cleveland_Browns_season

    EDIT: PAT HILL FUCKING TUFF was one of his assistants. I did not know that.
    9 wins was a great success for Sark, especially considering the team went 0-12 in Ty's last year.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Washington_Huskies_football_team
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,386 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2018
    Coaches get credit for what they accomplish. Kerr took a team that was a mid level playoff team and won a championship. All of this happened since Kerr took over. Not many were predicting a championship in his first year. They have been the favorite every year since. I think he’s a smart guy and a good coach.

    Everyone besides the players hated Mark Jackson. He was being a lunatic.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    allpurpleallgold said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    allpurpleallgold said:

    Doogles said:

    I love Lavar because he is Trump, but he's wrong here.

    That being said coaching in the NBA less important than the NFL. The Zen master didn't just forget how to coach in New York right?

    I don't love this argument. The Browns would still suck if Belichick took over.
    People forget that Bill Belichick was the last Cleveland Browns coach to win a playoff game.
    His record in Cleveland was 36-44.
    Which that alone should get him in the HOF, given their record after He left.
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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    Still the dumbest argument in any sports is validating whether recruits were recruited by a different coach, or a coach only won b/c of certain players. We've seen plenty of coaches fail with great players or great recruiting classes die on the vine thanks to fantastic development. Phil jackson isn't lucky he got to play with kobe/shaq, just as much as he wasn't lucky to win with jordan. Others had chances and didn't win rings. There is something to managing elite athletes and their egos'. Some guys get it.

    Ball is all about ball, which is why he will be the cashmeoutside of the nba. I hope the lakers are dumb enough to shitcan walton and he is the revamped coach for the Seattle supersonics in 2020
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,792 Founders Club
    FreeChavez said:

    Still the dumbest argument in any sports is validating whether recruits were recruited by a different coach, or a coach only won b/c of certain players. We've seen plenty of coaches fail with great players or great recruiting classes die on the vine thanks to fantastic development. Phil jackson isn't lucky he got to play with kobe/shaq, just as much as he wasn't lucky to win with jordan. Others had chances and didn't win rings. There is something to managing elite athletes and their egos'. Some guys get it.

    Ball is all about ball, which is why he will be the cashmeoutside of the nba. I hope the lakers are dumb enough to shitcan walton and he is the revamped coach for the Seattle supersonics in 2020

    Disagree. He had Jordan/pippen in their prime and Kobe/Shaq in their prime.

    He's a good coach, but in 5 player game that is lucky as shit to have 40% of your starting lineup be top 30 guys(remove pippen it's top15,arguably top 10)
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  • FreeChavez
    FreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
    Doogles said:

    FreeChavez said:

    Still the dumbest argument in any sports is validating whether recruits were recruited by a different coach, or a coach only won b/c of certain players. We've seen plenty of coaches fail with great players or great recruiting classes die on the vine thanks to fantastic development. Phil jackson isn't lucky he got to play with kobe/shaq, just as much as he wasn't lucky to win with jordan. Others had chances and didn't win rings. There is something to managing elite athletes and their egos'. Some guys get it.

    Ball is all about ball, which is why he will be the cashmeoutside of the nba. I hope the lakers are dumb enough to shitcan walton and he is the revamped coach for the Seattle supersonics in 2020

    Disagree. He had Jordan/pippen in their prime and Kobe/Shaq in their prime.

    He's a good coach, but in 5 player game that is lucky as shit to have 40% of your starting lineup be top 30 guys(remove pippen it's top15,arguably top 10)
    Jackson was a master putting together ego's and personalities to form a team. Where he has struggled is being the GM, like the other 99% of coaches who think they can be a GM. They are different roles, and much different worlds of skill.

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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    RaceBannon said:

    ThomasFremont said:

    Doogles said:

    I love Lavar because he is Trump, but he's wrong here.

    That being said coaching in the NBA less important than the NFL. The Zen master didn't just forget how to coach in New York right?

    You know they don't like each other, yeah?
    Tommy still triggered
    Your write. Of course they are best pals.

    Silly of me to get that wrong.
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