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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    No worries everyone.

    Mexico will play for the wall.

    A certifiable genius says so.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    I copied yours, just got rid of quotes. So I wasn't saying you were pressing.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,283
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    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    So, food stamps doubled under Obama?

    chinteresting.

    No. They didn't. Read basic facts.
    from 2008 to 2016 they increased by over 18 million. Costs almost doubled. HTH
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    So, food stamps doubled under Obama?

    chinteresting.

    No. They didn't. Read basic facts.
    from 2008 to 2016 they increased by over 18 million. Costs almost doubled. HTH
    18 million is almost double of 53 billion? Cool story bro.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,920
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    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    So, food stamps doubled under Obama?

    chinteresting.

    No. They didn't. Read basic facts.
    Listen you dumb motherfucker, this is why you will never get rebutted.

    FROM YOUR OWN FUCKING CHART:
    2008 = $37.6
    2011 = $75.6

    But you claim that isn't a double.



    But here you are, a dumb fucking goat (apologies to @dflea), too fucking dumb to analyze the parroted, retarded fucking agenda you spew.

    And you thing I should waste my tim "telling you how you're wrong" when you can't figure out basic math.

    You really are the worst America has ever produced


    I suggest you PM @TierbsHsotBoobs. He can tell you where to find the Aurora Bridge.



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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    So, food stamps doubled under Obama?

    chinteresting.

    No. They didn't. Read basic facts.
    Listen you dumb motherfucker, this is why you will never get rebutted.

    FROM YOUR OWN FUCKING CHART:
    2008 = $37.6
    2011 = $75.6

    But you claim that isn't a double.



    But here you are, a dumb fucking goat (apologies to @dflea), too fucking dumb to analyze the parroted, retarded fucking agenda you spew.

    And you thing I should waste my tim "telling you how you're wrong" when you can't figure out basic math.

    You really are the worst America has ever produced


    I suggest you PM @TierbsHsotBoobs. He can tell you where to find the Aurora Bridge.



    Yes 75.6 is double of 37.6. But you miss how budgets work. You need to use the 2009 number, which is September 2009, still under Bush's budget, and it was 53 billion or whatever that year. Yes food stamps exploded under Obama, because of the recession. But to say they doubled under Obama is wrong.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    God you are a fucking moron.

    I'll save you a poast:
    HondoFS: 'I don't mean entitlements, I mean some subset of entitlements that still means I'm FS'

    HondoFS in this thread:




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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    I'm fine with getting rid of Social Security and Medicare for the next 20 years.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    God you are a fucking moron.

    I'll save you a poast:
    HondoFS: 'I don't mean entitlements, I mean some subset of entitlements that still means I'm FS'

    HondoFS in this thread:




    From your link:


    In FY 2018 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,155 billion, including $716 billion for Medicaid, and $439 billion in other welfare.

    Why would you consider Medicaid an entitlement? And why do you include State and local? Use real data them come back to me.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,920
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    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    So, food stamps doubled under Obama?

    chinteresting.

    No. They didn't. Read basic facts.
    Listen you dumb motherfucker, this is why you will never get rebutted.

    FROM YOUR OWN FUCKING CHART:
    2008 = $37.6
    2011 = $75.6

    But you claim that isn't a double.



    But here you are, a dumb fucking goat (apologies to @dflea), too fucking dumb to analyze the parroted, retarded fucking agenda you spew.

    And you thing I should waste my tim "telling you how you're wrong" when you can't figure out basic math.

    You really are the worst America has ever produced


    I suggest you PM @TierbsHsotBoobs. He can tell you where to find the Aurora Bridge.



    Yes 75.6 is double of 37.6. But you miss how budgets work. You need to use the 2009 number, which is September 2009, still under Bush's budget, and it was 53 billion or whatever that year. Yes food stamps exploded under Obama, because of the recession. But to say they doubled under Obama is wrong.
    You're a fucking liar, caught in your own bullshit, and now you're moving the goal poasts.


    Choke on a cock.
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,920
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    edited January 2018


    HondoFS in this thread:





    Right-click; save-as.



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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    doogie said:

    So, food stamps doubled under Obama?

    chinteresting.

    No. They didn't. Read basic facts.
    Listen you dumb motherfucker, this is why you will never get rebutted.

    FROM YOUR OWN FUCKING CHART:
    2008 = $37.6
    2011 = $75.6

    But you claim that isn't a double.



    But here you are, a dumb fucking goat (apologies to @dflea), too fucking dumb to analyze the parroted, retarded fucking agenda you spew.

    And you thing I should waste my tim "telling you how you're wrong" when you can't figure out basic math.

    You really are the worst America has ever produced


    I suggest you PM @TierbsHsotBoobs. He can tell you where to find the Aurora Bridge.



    Yes 75.6 is double of 37.6. But you miss how budgets work. You need to use the 2009 number, which is September 2009, still under Bush's budget, and it was 53 billion or whatever that year. Yes food stamps exploded under Obama, because of the recession. But to say they doubled under Obama is wrong.
    You're a fucking liar, caught in your own bullshit, and now you're moving the goal poasts.


    Choke on a cock.
    I didn't move any goal post. You are just factually wrong.

    HTH
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    edited January 2018
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    God you are a fucking moron.

    I'll save you a poast:
    HondoFS: 'I don't mean entitlements, I mean some subset of entitlements that still means I'm FS'

    HondoFS in this thread:




    From your link:


    In FY 2018 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,155 billion, including $716 billion for Medicaid, and $439 billion in other welfare.

    Why would you consider Medicaid an entitlement? And why do you include State and local? Use real data them come back to me.
    You probably don't even know or realize the difference between Medicaid and Medicare do you?

    Above is actually a narrow interpretation of "entitlement programs"...you are just too stupid to understand:

    http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/entitlement_program
    http://federalsafetynet.com/entitlement-programs.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States
    etc..etc..etc...

    HondoFS in this thread:


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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    God you are a fucking moron.

    I'll save you a poast:
    HondoFS: 'I don't mean entitlements, I mean some subset of entitlements that still means I'm FS'

    HondoFS in this thread:




    From your link:


    In FY 2018 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,155 billion, including $716 billion for Medicaid, and $439 billion in other welfare.

    Why would you consider Medicaid an entitlement? And why do you include State and local? Use real data them come back to me.
    You probably don't even know or realize the difference between Medicaid and Medicare do you?

    Above is actually a narrow interpretation of "entitlement programs"...you are just too stupid to understand:

    http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/entitlement_program
    http://federalsafetynet.com/entitlement-programs.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States
    etc..etc..etc...

    HondoFS in this thread:


    Yes I do know the difference. And the federal government doesn't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements.

    HTH
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    2001400ex said:

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    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    God you are a fucking moron.

    I'll save you a poast:
    HondoFS: 'I don't mean entitlements, I mean some subset of entitlements that still means I'm FS'

    HondoFS in this thread:




    From your link:


    In FY 2018 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,155 billion, including $716 billion for Medicaid, and $439 billion in other welfare.

    Why would you consider Medicaid an entitlement? And why do you include State and local? Use real data them come back to me.
    You probably don't even know or realize the difference between Medicaid and Medicare do you?

    Above is actually a narrow interpretation of "entitlement programs"...you are just too stupid to understand:

    http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/entitlement_program
    http://federalsafetynet.com/entitlement-programs.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States
    etc..etc..etc...

    HondoFS in this thread:





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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    you make it sound like 18 billion is a lot of money. That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements.

    How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year?
    Over the same 10 year time period? Something like a trillion+ dollars. What reality do you live in? You just ignore basic facts so you can rationalize whatever nutjob political idea you have.

    Go fuck yourself moron...
    Trillion plus? No. Try again. Get a hold of simple basic facts before you call someone else a moron.
    FY2018: $98 billion
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/food_stamps

    For ten years (the same time frame as the wall spending of $18 billion) indexing with inflation that is well over $1 trillion dollars. It might be a bit better now that Obama is out and people are moving off of food stamps (and if we ever limit the amount of illegal immigration), but its a good rough number.

    God you are a fucking moron...a six year old has a better grasp of any sort of reality than you do. (BTW...I Chincredibled your last post because it takes absolute stupidity to an entirely new level).
    This is right from the USDA website. Notice the trend how spending is falling, not growing.

    photo F35D9443-548F-49B3-A5A9-3D50CC040F1A_zpsqpr1lm8v.png

    https://fns-prod.azureedge.net/sites/default/files/pd/SNAPsummary.pdf
    God you are a fucking moron...you are agreeing even though you are too stupid to know it.

    Let's review:

    You: Article saying we want to spend $1.6 billion this year and $18 billion over 10 years on the wall.

    Greenblood: "That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of money we spend each year on entitlements."

    You: "How much do you think is spent on food stamps every year? " (note...this is a very small subset of the total entitlement spending, which is for FY2018 is est at $1.2 trillion)

    Me: $100 billion for FY2018 and over $1,000 billion over the next 10 years with link...i.e. the wall is nothing compared to that subset.

    You: I don't mean all food stamps, I just mean a subset of that subset and give a link to half of that (just the SNAP portion).

    In so you are agreeing its still a meaningless amount...i.e.:
    ~2.7% of the subset of the subset of entitlements you are for some stupid reasoning singling out.
    ~1.7% of the subset of entitlements you originally singled out which is still stupid, and
    ~0.13% of all entitlements.

    I.e....its a big nothingburger that has your stain-streaked panties in a wad. Instead in the process you've made a better argument on how it more than pays for itself...all it has to do is cut overall entitlement (some of which is on illegal aliens) 0.13% and its magically paid for itself.

    Seems rather likely if I do say so myself...God you are a fucking moron.
    In bold is where you are completely wrong. We don't spend anywhere near $1.2 trillion on entitlements, which is my point. That I very clearly made.

    But ok!
    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/us_welfare_spending_40.html

    God you are a fucking moron.

    I'll save you a poast:
    HondoFS: 'I don't mean entitlements, I mean some subset of entitlements that still means I'm FS'

    HondoFS in this thread:




    From your link:


    In FY 2018 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — is “guesstimated” to be $1,155 billion, including $716 billion for Medicaid, and $439 billion in other welfare.

    Why would you consider Medicaid an entitlement? And why do you include State and local? Use real data them come back to me.
    You probably don't even know or realize the difference between Medicaid and Medicare do you?

    Above is actually a narrow interpretation of "entitlement programs"...you are just too stupid to understand:

    http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/entitlement_program
    http://federalsafetynet.com/entitlement-programs.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States
    etc..etc..etc...

    HondoFS in this thread:





    I'm a fag who doesn't know shit.

    So you agree you are wrong. Took long enough.
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