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Blue State exodus
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Virginia is blue too.Swaye said:I moved out of Maryland to Virginia to escape the stupid level of taxation in Maryland for the only annoying level of Virginia taxation. Blue state exodus confirmed. Sample size: 1.
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Government Titties are expensive. Particularly so for those who never unlatch from the Nipples. I.e., Democrats & Hondo types.
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We cancel out cause I moved out of red State tax of Montana to blue State tax of Washington.Swaye said:I moved out of Maryland to Virginia to escape the stupid level of taxation in Maryland for the only annoying level of Virginia taxation. Blue state exodus confirmed. Sample size: 1.
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I'm pretty sure that's the exact definition of regressive taxes.... Tax on sales, fuel, tobacco, alcohol and unlimited income without tax.TurdBuffer said:
Only if you're poor.2001400ex said:
Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.Tequilla said:
If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.RedRocket said:
But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.doogie said:The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.
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Purple. It has flipped quick though. Virginia had not voted Dem is like 50 years before Obama. The state went purple in 5 years. Once it goes fully blue I'll leave for North Carolina to be closer to my life partner. Which is also purple. Which reminds me of his dong.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Virginia is blue too.Swaye said:I moved out of Maryland to Virginia to escape the stupid level of taxation in Maryland for the only annoying level of Virginia taxation. Blue state exodus confirmed. Sample size: 1.
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The difference is the producers retire and leave states like cali with their money and the equity from their homes. They get terraced by an illegal alien or legal foreigner. One of those only takes and never gives. The other owns a cash business and cheats on his taxes paying as little as possible.
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Hey, now. I'm gonna need royalties on that.Swaye said:
Purple. It has flipped quick though. Virginia had not voted Dem is like 50 years before Obama. The state went purple in 5 years. Once it goes fully blue I'll leave for North Carolina to be closer to my life partner. Which is also purple. Which reminds me of his dong.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Virginia is blue too.Swaye said:I moved out of Maryland to Virginia to escape the stupid level of taxation in Maryland for the only annoying level of Virginia taxation. Blue state exodus confirmed. Sample size: 1.
We'll negotiate a reasonable per-use fee structure.
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How are these pension systems so broken? FERS and the TSP G-Fund are the only two federal accounts that are performing well. I know republicans like to make out federal employees to be evil but we pay for our own pensions with miles of room to spare.
If the Feds can do it, states should easily be able to it. -
Definitions of progressive and regressive differ. I think progressing towards freedom is what we should strive for. Most people who use the term progress and label themselves progressive these days sadly are big govt. Fascists.2001400ex said:Purple_Pills said:
Disagree. An income tax is very regressive. It hinders lower class wealth building, by design. A wealth tax is the most progressive structure. The problem with a full wealth tax is the cost and ability to track all forms of wealth beyond real estate.2001400ex said:
Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.Tequilla said:
If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.RedRocket said:
But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.doogie said:The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.
HTH
Here in Washington aside from the regressive B&O tax has a pretty good system where we tax consumption aside from certain basic necessities and tax wealth in the form of real estate. Our tax system is why we continue to grow. It also is more stable in times of economic fluctuation. When recession hits WA govt. fares better than our contiguous Pacific coast peers.
Da duq? Look up what a regressive tax structure is. It's clear you don't understand the concept.Purple_Pills said:
Disagree. An income tax is very regressive. It hinders lower class wealth building, by design. A wealth tax is the most progressive structure. The problem with a full wealth tax is the cost and ability to track all forms of wealth beyond real estate.2001400ex said:
Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.Tequilla said:
If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.RedRocket said:
But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.doogie said:The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.
HTH
Here in Washington aside from the regressive B&O tax has a pretty good system where we tax consumption aside from certain basic necessities and tax wealth in the form of real estate. Our tax system is why we continue to grow. It also is more stable in times of economic fluctuation. When recession hits WA govt. fares better than our contiguous Pacific coast peers.
If progressive = most fair then Washington's tax structure aside from the regressive B&O tax is easily one of the most progressive.
If you are an ivory tower, mega corporation, 1%er, eliminate the middle class, enslave the poor, big govt. elitist then California or NY's tax system is what you view as the most progressive. Stop ignoring science, these systems are proven failures that only enrich the elite, corrupt, and their underclass cronies. -
No they don't. There is a clearly defined definition of "progressive" and "regressive" tax regimes. Here it is:Purple_Pills said:
Definitions of progressive and regressive differ. I think progressing towards freedom is what we should strive for. Most people who use the term progress and label themselves progressive these days sadly are big govt. Fascists.2001400ex said:Purple_Pills said:
Disagree. An income tax is very regressive. It hinders lower class wealth building, by design. A wealth tax is the most progressive structure. The problem with a full wealth tax is the cost and ability to track all forms of wealth beyond real estate.2001400ex said:
Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.Tequilla said:
If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.RedRocket said:
But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.doogie said:The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.
HTH
Here in Washington aside from the regressive B&O tax has a pretty good system where we tax consumption aside from certain basic necessities and tax wealth in the form of real estate. Our tax system is why we continue to grow. It also is more stable in times of economic fluctuation. When recession hits WA govt. fares better than our contiguous Pacific coast peers.
Da duq? Look up what a regressive tax structure is. It's clear you don't understand the concept.Purple_Pills said:
Disagree. An income tax is very regressive. It hinders lower class wealth building, by design. A wealth tax is the most progressive structure. The problem with a full wealth tax is the cost and ability to track all forms of wealth beyond real estate.2001400ex said:
Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.Tequilla said:
If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.RedRocket said:
But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.doogie said:The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.
HTH
Here in Washington aside from the regressive B&O tax has a pretty good system where we tax consumption aside from certain basic necessities and tax wealth in the form of real estate. Our tax system is why we continue to grow. It also is more stable in times of economic fluctuation. When recession hits WA govt. fares better than our contiguous Pacific coast peers.
If progressive = most fair then Washington's tax structure aside from the regressive B&O tax is easily one of the most progressive.
If you are an ivory tower, mega corporation, 1%er, eliminate the middle class, enslave the poor, big govt. elitist then California or NY's tax system is what you view as the most progressive. Stop ignoring science, these systems are proven failures that only enrich the elite, corrupt, and their underclass cronies.Progressive Taxes
A progressive tax is simply one approach to determining who pays what amount in their taxes. It isn’t about initiating reform, but rather an attempt to ensure taxation is “fair” to all payers.
A progressive tax system takes into account ability to pay, setting rates based on income. That is, as income (or general wealth) goes up, so does the tax rate; as a percentage of income, poorer individuals tend to pay less, and wealthier or higher-earning individuals pay more.
In theory, this kind of system can apply to individual incomes as well as transactions, but it tends to show up more in the form of income taxes—hence, talk about the different income brackets in America.
Regressive Taxes
Not many business owners raise and lower their prices according to the wealth of each customer. It is much simpler for prices to be set across the board for goods and services, regardless of who is shopping for them.
That is essentially the basis for regressive taxes. A regressive tax does not take into account an individual’s income level or ability to pay, but it is not exactly the opposite of a progressive tax. Frequently, this is seen when the tax is applied to transactions—like a sales tax—and increases the total cost of something. Because that same uniform fee represents a larger proportion of net wealth for the poor, and a smaller share of the total wealth for richer individuals, the impact is felt differently.
A flat, across-the-board amount charged to everyone can make for easy accounting, but it also leads to people paying a different rate of their total wealth in taxes. Again, fairness is relative and depends on where policymakers—and the tax professionals advising them—are putting their focus: the tax rate, or total taxes paid.
In economics, these are terms of art, not value judgments. Washington State has a very regressive tax structure. Oregon's is very progressive. Each has its merits and demerits.
