Blue State exodus

doogie

Illinois is fucked. No, US Taxpayers aren’t going to guarantee your lofty Public pensions. Fuck off.

With Illinois’ tax base literally walking away, less and less people are there to foot the massive bill the Democratic politicians in the state have stuck on the remaining residents. They tried to hike taxes to compensate, but that only caused more people to pack up and leave for a less expensive place to live.

“As people leave the state, they take their pocketbooks with them. That means there are fewer Illinoisans to pay the bills,” said Orphe Divounguy, chief economist with the Illinois Policy Institute. “It’s worrying because if you have a declining population and a declining labor force, you will for sure have a further slowdown of economic activity going into 2018.”


https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/12/27/americans-fled-blue-states-hundreds-thousands-due-high-taxes-high-crime-rates/

2001400ex

Do you want up compare the productivity of the top 10 liberal states compared to the top 10 conservative states?

RaceBannon

Start a thread and go for it

I'm not interested but I am sure someone is.


somewhere



maybe




probably not

PurpleThrobber

2001400ex said:

Do you want up compare the productivity unfunded pension liabilities of the top 10 liberal states compared to the top 10 conservative states?

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allpurpleallgold

Redstate.com is my second most trusted news network, right behind naturenews.

doogie

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

doogie

Lotsa ostriches out today.

2001400ex

I'm sure they are moving to Kansas.

RedRocket

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

doogie

Too bad none of you esteemed commie friends get the point of what the census data proves.

RedRocket

doogie said:

Too bad none of you esteemed commie friends get the point of what the census data proves.

Stats are for losers. We already knew this. Keep up.

doogie

One billionaire leaves, one illegal immigrant arrives.

Net effect = O

PurpleThrobber

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

Wyoming is rich as fuck. Illinois would piss all over themselves to have Wyoming’s balance sheet.

#drillbabydrill

Sledog

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration "Illegal Aliens". But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

Odd how an increase in illegals is bandied about like it's good.

Tequilla

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.

RaceBannon

Amazon is already on the way out of Seattle er looking for a "second" HQ

Allegedly

oregonblitzkrieg

RaceBannon said:

Amazon is already on the way out of Seattle er looking for a "second" HQ

Allegedly

They should relocate to Hong Kong, where they belong. Easier to source their fake shit from the Shenzhen factories. Cheaper shipping from there to the US also.

RedRocket

Sledog said:

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration "Illegal Aliens". But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

Odd how an increase in illegals is bandied about like it's good.

I never said that the immigration was good or bad just pointing out that Doogie was using misleading stats. Places like Seattle, New York and San Francisco have a bigger problem with wealthy, legal immigrants anyways.

2001400ex

Tequilla said:

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.

Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

HTH

PurpleThrobber

2001400ex said:

Tequilla said:

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.

Washington State has the most regressive tax structure in the country.

HTH

Christ. Bookmark this. Hondo and I agree on something totally 100%.

Property taxes and sales taxes should be slashed to 1/3 of present rates. Institute a third leg of revenue in a moderate income tax and abolish the B&O tax completely.

Then institute special tax incentive zones/port districts in places like Spokane and Vancouver and Tri-Cities so businesses will relocate there instead of Oregon/Idaho and watch the motherfucking state take off to the stratosphere.

RedRocket

Tequilla said:

RedRocket said:

doogie said:

The exodus of residents was most pronounced in New York, which saw about 190,000 people leave the state between July 1, 2016 and July 1, 2017, according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last week.

But Wyoming had the largest exodus in percentage terms. The article also conveniently forgets about strong growth blue states like WA and OR and doesn't mention that NY and CA actually had population growth because of immigration. But yeah blue states are fucked. If doogie had any balls he would relocate from his liberal strong hold to a bible belt red state.

If you don't think that Washington or Oregon aren't going to have similar problems in 20-30 years when all the liberals that are making a shit ton of money today realize that politicians are coming for their money down the road and decide that being a snow bird living in a state where they aren't going to touch their money ... then I can't fucking help you.

Snowbirds would still pay property and sales tax in WA. The rich liberals would have to sell their houses and move entirely but it's not going to happen and it wouldnt matter anyways because there would just be a new post millennial generation that would fill the gap. Only reason this would change is if businesses left WA or OR in droves which I also don't see happening.