just heard on ESPN there was a player pole @ Miami re: Ritchie Incognito

sarktastic

2 separate pole's:

1. Do you want Incognito back? Nearly unanomous YES

2. Do you want Martin back? nearly unanomous NO

discuss

RoadDawg55

I think both should go. Martin will never earn respect in that locker room and will always be seen as soft. Incognito needs to go because he is a ringleader of a fucked up culture. Fucking with someone to the brink of suicide is psychopathic. Get rid of both, and possibly the coach and GM and start fresh.

MikeDamone

I think Sven said it best. Any any other business, how would an employee who did this shit be handled?

HuskyJW

If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

DerekJohnson

HuskyJW said:

If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

We've had stupider poles on this message bored.

dnc

DerekJohnson said:

HuskyJW said:

If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

We've had stupider poles on this message bored.

Miami cooged that pole.

CuntWaffle

The thing I have a hard time understanding is that if Incognito was really this hardcore racist then why did other black player's in the locker room come to his defense? Like Mike Wallace, Cameron Wake, and Will Davis even going as far as calling him one of the most popular in the locker room.

My guess was some event by Martin triggered something and Incognito probably left a couple drunk voicemails and texts (which by no means excuses the actions).

creepycoug

HuskyJW said:

If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

I agree, but this is not any other job or business. It's athletics. It's different. And this isn't just athletics, it's football, the most violent sport of them all. Save the hockey comparison for someone more open-minded than I am. Even James said in a now famous interview, when addressing a run-up in campus "incidents" involving his "student athletes", and I paraphrase, you are recruiting a different kind of kid ... you're looking for, in many instances, a kid with a wild hair up his ass. You're looking for killers. And you are.

This is pro football. Any 300+ lb. offensive lineman who can be bullied is not an offensive lineman I want to pay millions of dollars to play. Do you think Gogan or Kreutz or Garcia or Kennedy or Malamala could have been "bullied" as rookies? I don't. I think they would have done what they needed to do under whatever hazing tradition they were dealing with, and if/when it crossed their line, they would have stood on the line and said, "fuck you you overrated roided up Nebraska piece of shit. come get your $ you faggot mother fucker." or words to that effect.

I would have liked to have met the mother fucker who could "bully" Sean Taylor. LOL! Yeah, i'd have paid $$ to watch that with a bag of popcorn.

TheKobeStopper

CuntWaffle said:

The thing I have a hard time understanding is that if Incognito was really this hardcore racist then why did other black player's in the locker room come to his defense? Like Mike Wallace, Cameron Wake, and Will Davis even going as far as calling him one of the most popular in the locker room.

My guess was some event by Martin triggered something and Incognito probably left a couple drunk voicemails and texts (which by no means excuses the actions).

You should have seen what Martin was wearing. Asking for it.

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creepycoug said:

HuskyJW said:

If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

I agree, but this is not any other job or business. It's athletics. It's different. And this isn't just athletics, it's football, the most violent sport of them all. Save the hockey comparison for someone more open-minded than I am. Even James said in a now famous interview, when addressing a run-up in campus "incidents" involving his "student athletes", and I paraphrase, you are recruiting a different kind of kid ... you're looking for, in many instances, a kid with a wild hair up his ass. You're looking for killers. And you are.

This is pro football. Any 300+ lb. offensive lineman who can be bullied is not an offensive lineman I want to pay millions of dollars to play. Do you think Gogan or Kreutz or Garcia or Kennedy or Malamala could have been "bullied" as rookies? I don't. I think they would have done what they needed to do under whatever hazing tradition they were dealing with, and if/when it crossed their line, they would have stood on the line and said, "fuck you you overrated roided up Nebraska piece of shit. come get your $ you faggot mother fucker." or words to that effect.

I would have liked to have met the mother fucker who could "bully" Sean Taylor. LOL! Yeah, i'd have paid $$ to watch that with a bag of popcorn.

In fact when Kreutz was a freshman he kicked the shit out of Suki Wiggs who was an NFL upperclassman on the roster. I'm not saying what Kreutz did was right and I was pissed because Wiggs was supposed to be a key player for us.

However, I knew that Kreutz was going to be a stud OL for us. If Miami were to panic and release Incognito I would be hoping the Seahawks would sign him. I know in Seattle if he tried that shit Pete would get rid of his ass and I 'd like to think the players that Pete brings in wouldn't back down either.

I remember a famous saying in football you want 80% of your roster to be good normal run of the mill guys, 10% to be outstanding people who are really smart, and the other 10% to be criminals/thugs. The key is that the 80% makes sure that the 10% on each side never interact with each other.

You need these type of guys on your roster as fucked up as it is.

RaccoonHarry

He_Needs_More_Time said:

creepycoug said:

HuskyJW said:

If this pole is in fact true....it shows once again the knuckle-dragging meathead mentality of athletes.

I agree, but this is not any other job or business. It's athletics. It's different. And this isn't just athletics, it's football, the most violent sport of them all. Save the hockey comparison for someone more open-minded than I am. Even James said in a now famous interview, when addressing a run-up in campus "incidents" involving his "student athletes", and I paraphrase, you are recruiting a different kind of kid ... you're looking for, in many instances, a kid with a wild hair up his ass. You're looking for killers. And you are.

This is pro football. Any 300+ lb. offensive lineman who can be bullied is not an offensive lineman I want to pay millions of dollars to play. Do you think Gogan or Kreutz or Garcia or Kennedy or Malamala could have been "bullied" as rookies? I don't. I think they would have done what they needed to do under whatever hazing tradition they were dealing with, and if/when it crossed their line, they would have stood on the line and said, "fuck you you overrated roided up Nebraska piece of shit. come get your $ you faggot mother fucker." or words to that effect.

I would have liked to have met the mother fucker who could "bully" Sean Taylor. LOL! Yeah, i'd have paid $$ to watch that with a bag of popcorn.

In fact when Kreutz was a freshman he kicked the shit out of Suki Wiggs who was an NFL upperclassman on the roster. I'm not saying what Kreutz did was right and I was pissed because Wiggs was supposed to be a key player for us.

However, I knew that Kreutz was going to be a stud OL for us. If Miami were to panic and release Incognito I would be hoping the Seahawks would sign him. I know in Seattle if he tried that shit Pete would get rid of his ass and I 'd like to think the players that Pete brings in wouldn't back down either.

I remember a famous saying in football you want 80% of your roster to be good normal run of the mill guys, 10% to be outstanding people who are really smart, and the other 10% to be criminals/thugs. The key is that the 80% makes sure that the 10% on each side never interact with each other.

You need these type of guys on your roster as fucked up as it is.

Yeah, that would go over real well in Seattle, the PC capitol of the universe.

Speaking of Martin the guy is such a pussy at OL you'd think he would have played for the Huskies.