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  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    Sark finished dead last in PAC-12 recruiting his first year. In 2009 he recruited two players from the state of WA. Desmond Trufant and Andru Pulu.

  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    doogie said:

    Sark finished dead last in PAC-12 recruiting his first year. In 2009 he recruited two players from the state of WA. Desmond Trufant and Andru Pulu.

    A Very Cristoballian class.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,029 Founders Club
    If beating our DAWGS meant ASU didn't suck then ASU wouldn't suck.

    However. ...

  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,749
    AZDuck said:




    I think I'm going to get a ton of mileage from this shitty gif

    gif?
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,749

    They whiffed on the top ten in state prospects. That is continuing a poor trend started by his predecessor. Not even Sark did that and he DNGAF about Washington State. After Croswell and Robertson this class will have to rely on evaluation and development. No one knows if Herm is good at either. Anyone know how his draft history in the NFL was? Did he whiff more than he hit? Might be a good indicator of his eval skills although when you are in the 30-40 rank in recruiting range you need to long term project prospects as well. Who knows? I'm so glad he's in our conference.
    Herms transition class > petermans transition class



    Herms > Peterman

    Case closed
    End of discussion



    But let's be real. Herm isn't evaluating shit. Isn't calling plays either. He's there to be the hype man. It's glorious.
    Disagree.
    You or I can bump this in three years.
    Budda
    Sydney MF Jones
    Greg Gaines
    Jo Jo Mac
    Dissley Dwag
    Keleb Mcgary

    Thats six first or second team All Pac performers in a TRANSITION class. EVALUATION is key. We? do it better than most.

    Not sure but Virta may have been a late addition in that class as well. Don't twist if not.
    Vea was part of that class.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,977

    dnc said:

    They whiffed on the top ten in state prospects. That is continuing a poor trend started by his predecessor. Not even Sark did that and he DNGAF about Washington State. After Croswell and Robertson this class will have to rely on evaluation and development. No one knows if Herm is good at either. Anyone know how his draft history in the NFL was? Did he whiff more than he hit? Might be a good indicator of his eval skills although when you are in the 30-40 rank in recruiting range you need to long term project prospects as well. Who knows? I'm so glad he's in our conference.
    Herms transition class > petermans transition class



    Herms > Peterman

    Case closed
    End of discussion



    But let's be real. Herm isn't evaluating shit. Isn't calling plays either. He's there to be the hype man. It's glorious.
    Disagree.
    You or I can bump this in three years.
    Budda
    Sydney MF Jones
    Greg Gaines
    Jo Jo Mac
    Dissley Dwag
    Keleb Mcgary

    Thats six first or second team All Pac performers in a TRANSITION class. EVALUATION is key. We? do it better than most.

    Not sure but Virta may have been a late addition in that class as well. Don't twist if not.
    Vea was part of that class.
    Then that was one of the best non-Bruce Wayne transition classes ever. I checked and I left out Jaylen Johnson and Dante Pettis. Gardenhire was decent before the weed and Bowman is in the depth. With Vita that is nine high level starters and one depth/rotation guy. That class was ranked 38. Let that sink in. What will Pete do with a class ranked in the top ten? Holy fuck all.
    Play try hard white qbs
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    I'm liking Race and DNC on the last two.

    Which means I'm now dead to DDY.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,977
    Herm doesn't like okgs
  • dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,233
    edited February 2018

    dnc said:

    They whiffed on the top ten in state prospects. That is continuing a poor trend started by his predecessor. Not even Sark did that and he DNGAF about Washington State. After Croswell and Robertson this class will have to rely on evaluation and development. No one knows if Herm is good at either. Anyone know how his draft history in the NFL was? Did he whiff more than he hit? Might be a good indicator of his eval skills although when you are in the 30-40 rank in recruiting range you need to long term project prospects as well. Who knows? I'm so glad he's in our conference.
    Herms transition class > petermans transition class



    Herms > Peterman

    Case closed
    End of discussion



    But let's be real. Herm isn't evaluating shit. Isn't calling plays either. He's there to be the hype man. It's glorious.
    Disagree.
    You or I can bump this in three years.
    Budda
    Sydney MF Jones
    Greg Gaines
    Jo Jo Mac
    Dissley Dwag
    Keleb Mcgary

    Thats six first or second team All Pac performers in a TRANSITION class. EVALUATION is key. We? do it better than most.

    Not sure but Virta may have been a late addition in that class as well. Don't twist if not.
    Vea was part of that class.
    Then that was one of the best non-Bruce Wayne transition classes ever. I checked and I left out Jaylen Johnson and Dante Pettis. Gardenhire was decent before the weed and Bowman is in the depth. With Vita that is nine high level starters and one depth/rotation guy. That class was ranked 38. Let that sink in. What will Pete do with a class ranked in the top ten? Holy fuck all.
    I just got a boner.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    dflea said:

    dnc said:

    They whiffed on the top ten in state prospects. That is continuing a poor trend started by his predecessor. Not even Sark did that and he DNGAF about Washington State. After Croswell and Robertson this class will have to rely on evaluation and development. No one knows if Herm is good at either. Anyone know how his draft history in the NFL was? Did he whiff more than he hit? Might be a good indicator of his eval skills although when you are in the 30-40 rank in recruiting range you need to long term project prospects as well. Who knows? I'm so glad he's in our conference.
    Herms transition class > petermans transition class



    Herms > Peterman

    Case closed
    End of discussion



    But let's be real. Herm isn't evaluating shit. Isn't calling plays either. He's there to be the hype man. It's glorious.
    Disagree.
    You or I can bump this in three years.
    Budda
    Sydney MF Jones
    Greg Gaines
    Jo Jo Mac
    Dissley Dwag
    Keleb Mcgary

    Thats six first or second team All Pac performers in a TRANSITION class. EVALUATION is key. We? do it better than most.

    Not sure but Virta may have been a late addition in that class as well. Don't twist if not.
    Vea was part of that class.
    Then that was one of the best non-Bruce Wayne transition classes ever. I checked and I left out Jaylen Johnson and Dante Pettis. Gardenhire was decent before the weed and Bowman is in the depth. With Vita that is nine high level starters and one depth/rotation guy. That class was ranked 38. Let that sink in. What will Pete do with a class ranked in the top ten? Holy fuck all.
    I just got a boner.
    Just got a boner from another daWg getting a boner.
  • BlastDoorBlastDoor Member Posts: 711

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    They whiffed on the top ten in state prospects. That is continuing a poor trend started by his predecessor. Not even Sark did that and he DNGAF about Washington State. After Croswell and Robertson this class will have to rely on evaluation and development. No one knows if Herm is good at either. Anyone know how his draft history in the NFL was? Did he whiff more than he hit? Might be a good indicator of his eval skills although when you are in the 30-40 rank in recruiting range you need to long term project prospects as well. Who knows? I'm so glad he's in our conference.
    Herms transition class > petermans transition class



    Herms > Peterman

    Case closed
    End of discussion



    But let's be real. Herm isn't evaluating shit. Isn't calling plays either. He's there to be the hype man. It's glorious.
    Disagree.
    You or I can bump this in three years.
    Budda
    Sydney MF Jones
    Greg Gaines
    Jo Jo Mac
    Dissley Dwag
    Keleb Mcgary

    Thats six first or second team All Pac performers in a TRANSITION class. EVALUATION is key. We? do it better than most.

    Not sure but Virta may have been a late addition in that class as well. Don't twist if not.
    Vea was part of that class.
    Then that was one of the best non-Bruce Wayne transition classes ever. I checked and I left out Jaylen Johnson and Dante Pettis. Gardenhire was decent before the weed and Bowman is in the depth. With Vita that is nine high level starters and one depth/rotation guy. That class was ranked 38. Let that sink in. What will Pete do with a class ranked in the top ten? Holy fuck all.
    The danger here is set expectations around an outlier. Pete's a great evaluator and developer of talent but he's not THAT good. It's like Seahawks fans thinking Schneider's 2011 and 2012 drafts were going to be normative.

    I think Pete will do great with this class. I doubt he'll get as many overachievers as he did in his transition class though.
    There is some psychology in play here. I don't want to trigger Dennis but a lower rated guy with a chip on his shoulder might just do more to get better than the guy who has been told all his life that he is a special super star. Like a typical Trojan commit :)

    That's where coaching comes in. A great one will take that 5 star and get him to improve the way an 18 year old should. Like Saban

    And hopefully Pete

    Not just coaching but culture. A 5* guy who has been told all his life he's special goes to places with shitty and soft cultures like UCLA and he turns into a talented 5* pussy. They know they can just coast on their status.

    If a guy would try do this at Bama, Saban sends him to a shit Community College, then, some shitty FCS Alabama school. So he gets in line, works and turns into a 1st rounder. While a guy at UCLA would coast, get fat and go on the 7th round based on potential only.
  • NEPTUNENEPTUNE Member Posts: 151

    NEPTUNE said:

    NEPTUNE said:

    Hermy coaching ASU has the potential to be the most interesting aspect of the 2018 PAC season. The post game interviews, how he'll relate to today's teenagers, and just his overall cluelessnes. I got hi hopes.

    I just want you all to understand...


    What does @CokeGreaterThanPepsi think of this?
    Pepsi wins.
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