Your favorite example of armed patriots defeating tyranny in US History (post 1789)
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David Koresh would win a Senate seat in Texas today.dnc said:The liberation of Branch Dividian
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The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.
But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves". -
If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war
They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.
Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.
Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really
Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time
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I enjoyed this rantFenderbender123 said:The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.
But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves".
lol, noRaceBannon said:If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war
They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.
Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.
Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really
Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time
Case Closed
There was a fantastic slave revolt in South Carolina where the slaves had guns and numbers. Lost anyway.
Slave revolts usually failed with or without guns due to the slaves' lack of knowledge of military tactics and organization. -
Whiskey Rebellion 1791 - 1794
IsafnrcAZDuck said:
I enjoyed this rantFenderbender123 said:The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.
But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves".
lol, noRaceBannon said:If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war
They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.
Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.
Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really
Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time
Case Closed
There was a fantastic slave revolt in South Carolina where the slaves had guns and numbers. Lost anyway.
Slave revolts usually failed with or without guns due to the slaves' lack of knowledge of military tactics and organization. -
Write-in OptionRuby Ridge. A clusterfuck of epic proportions.
Janet Reno hit the holy trinity of dumbfuck between Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidians and Elian Gonzales. What a courageous woman.
Bitch.
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Write-in OptionRaceBannon said:
If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war
They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.
Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.
Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really
Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time
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Someone in the crowd yelled, "Let's go get our guns," causing the crowd to head for the Essankay Garage.AZDuck said:
Proves my point. The GIs broke into the National Guard armory to get military small arms because they were superior to their hunting rifles, had no heavy weapons and thus could not take the police station by storm despite having an overwhelming advantage of numbers, and felt they had to act quickly because they knew that real soldiers would likely arrive the next day.Sledog said:
Some also went to the armory. Would have been much more efficient if they all had guns of their own.
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The 60 who were under the direct command of Bill White got their guns at the armory. HTH.Sledog said:
Someone in the crowd yelled, "Let's go get our guns," causing the crowd to head for the Essankay Garage.AZDuck said:
Proves my point. The GIs broke into the National Guard armory to get military small arms because they were superior to their hunting rifles, had no heavy weapons and thus could not take the police station by storm despite having an overwhelming advantage of numbers, and felt they had to act quickly because they knew that real soldiers would likely arrive the next day.Sledog said:
Some also went to the armory. Would have been much more efficient if they all had guns of their own.
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Your historical examples have to do with one tribe/nation externally fucking over another. Yes, the West African tribes didn't have the weaponry to prevent themselves from being sold into bondage. The Swayes, as you yourself, have pointed out here several times were fucked at the get go by disease and never had sufficient strength in numbers to keep out whitey. The point in this shitty pole is to illustrate the silliness of myth that our being a well armed private citizenry has prevented tyranny in the United States. It's not the guns that protect our freedom from our own government, it is our strong democratic traditions and respect for rule of law that go back hundreds of years before the signing of the Declaration. We can all agree in the hands our military, however, have kept us safe from (and fucked over) other tribes/nations.RaceBannon said:If the slaves had guns no need for a civil war
They were an unarmed populace that got fucked. Same with the Swayes, who had some arms but not enough when it would have mattered.
Human history is littered with the powerful fucking the poor. Guns even the field.
Keep worshiping your government and trust in them. They are on your side. Really
Now lets pass another law that the law that wasn't followed in this case needs to be followed next time
Case Closed -
Whiskey Rebellion 1791 - 1794
The Power that it (the Federal Government) gained paled to what it gained in 1913 and 1933- 45.Fenderbender123 said:The Federal Government gained more power as a result of the Civil War. It gained the power to boss around the states. The only good that ever did was when it was used to make states abolish slavery. But hell, slavery was already on the way out. I'd say another 40-60 years and the states would have abolished slavery on their own, as was the trend at the time.
But now we have a Federal Government that forces extra tax money out of people in every state, and then sends it back to the states with strings attached..."Hey Montana, want some tax revenue for your roads? No problem...but FIRST, we need you to lower your speed limit to 65." If the South would have won, we wouldn't have this fucking problem. But all you faggots can think about is "oh the poor slaves". -
The methadone clinic, of course.YellowSnow said:
Where do you go in Salem to get your Aids medication?salemcoog said:This thread is proof that the full blown aids has won.
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Whiskey Rebellion 1791 - 1794
My guess would have been from sharing a needle with the river park bums.salemcoog said:
The methadone clinic, of course.YellowSnow said:
Where do you go in Salem to get your Aids medication?salemcoog said:This thread is proof that the full blown aids has won.
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Jeezus. 3 fucking pages in and no mention of these patriots?
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Wounded Knee Incident 1973
You are my fucking hero right now.Bad_MotherDucker said:Jeezus. 3 fucking pages in and no mention of these patriots?
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Wounded Knee Incident 1973Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
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@AntiVaxDawg, true?Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
Thanks for the blankets. Assholes. Fuck whitey. -
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The Mohicans were so decimated that they had to have a white guy be their last brave.Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
Thanks for the blankets. Assholes. Fuck whitey. -
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Fortunately the survivors and their successors are particularly resistant to certain diseases.Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
Thanks for the blankets. Assholes. Fuck whitey. -
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@AADawg true? I thought fire water was a disease?Pitchfork51 said:
Fortunately the survivors and their successors are particularly resistant to certain diseases.Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
Thanks for the blankets. Assholes. Fuck whitey. -
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Its a choiceYellowSnow said:
@AADawg true? I thought fire water was a disease?Pitchfork51 said:
Fortunately the survivors and their successors are particularly resistant to certain diseases.Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
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Swaye if it's any consolation the Indians have killed vast numbers of their infectors with their gift. Tobbaco. Still killing like crazy!Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
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Whiskey Rebellion 1791 - 1794But their tobacco is natural and organic.
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I'm gonna need to hear from @pawz on thisPurpleThrobber said:
@AntiVaxDawg, true?Swaye said:Did you know that there were 700,000 Fighting Swayes in Florida in 1520? In 1700 that number was reduced to 2000, and vast majority of that was due to disease and epidemics. In 1520, before Cortez landed, there were 25 million fighting Swayes in Mexico. Just 50 years later there were 3 million - 99 percent of which were killed by disease and starvation associated with the disease death rate, not warfare.
Yeah, the Spaniards and Whitey effectively won the war without firing a shot. All the Indian Wars of the 1700-1800's were just mop up duty for the very few pissed off Injuns who had survived all the plagues. 12-15 million Fighting Swayes in North America when Columbus landed. Less than a million left by the time they were herded to reservations, and the white man had killed less than 50,000 thousand of them in warfare. Twelve million or so killed by disease.
Thanks for the blankets. Assholes. Fuck whitey.