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How Bowe Bergdahl Is Going to Get Acquitted

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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    I’m not conflicted. Easy case. Soldiers who DID their duties DIED while searching for an anti-American deserter. Died, not hurt.

    If allowed to stand, this political stunt to intentionally harm the Military will do damage
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    You don't leave a man behind. Even a dirtbag piece of shit.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited November 2017
    So, you’re saying, those soldiers got themselves killed. They should have just ignored their orders like Bergdahl did.
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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    No. That's not what he said at all you dumb cunt.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited November 2017
    Check your emotion. Look at the facts.

    1 deserter free, 5 terrorists returned to the battlefield, 5 US dead Chumps who chose to follow orders and look for the deserter who chose not to, that the Board Commies line up to defend.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    Check your emotion. Look at the facts.

    1 deserter free, 5 terrorists returned to the battlefield, 5 US dead Chumps who chose to follow orders and look for the deserter who chose not to, that the Board Commies line up to defend.

    wow, they sure did get that sentencing transcript completed and sent to you fast
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    We all know what happened here. We all know the impact this has in damaging chain of command.

    Stop being naive, Kate.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited November 2017
    No, you have no fucking idea. Any Soldier, and I was sitting in a room with about 150 of them today, would tell you that they would rather the Army go collect deserters and trade them for fucking Taliban generals if it means that they can rest assured that the Army will do everything in its power to get them back if they are killed or captured.

    That promise helps keep our Soldiers, the good ones, in combat.

    I'm a little surprised that the trial judge found Bergdahl's plea of guilty to desertion provident, since I read that he was supposedly headed to another FOB to blow the whistle on something or other (ie. bullshit). But I haven't read the transcript either.

    EDIT: just read on CAAFlog:

    Sgt. Bergdahl is charged under the U.S. Armed Forces’ Uniform Code of Military Justice with: (1) Article 85: “Desertion with Intent to Shirk Important or Hazardous Duty;” and (2) Article 99: “Misbehavior before the Enemy by Endangering the Safety of a Command, Unit or Place.”

    Sgt. Bergdahl entered pleas of guilty to both charges, but indicated his period of desertion was for only one day. Following the entry of pleas, the government introduced evidence in support of the position that the period of desertion was for the entire period of Sgt. Bergdahl’s captivity. The military judge found Sgt. Bergdahl guilty of both charges with a one day period of desertion. The military judge also denied a defense motion to dismiss one of the charges as excessive, but announced he would combine both charges for sentencing purposes.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,915 Standard Supporter
    This decision mocks the military justice system.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited November 2017
    aaaaaannd away we go:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/03/politics/donald-trump-bowe-bergdahl-twitter/index.html



    a military justice practitioner:
    And, we have our first POTUS tweet… The MJ owns the case until authentication. Time to refile the UCI motion? POTUS has now weighed in, again. Could that serve a chilling effect on the clemency process, assuming Bergdahl asks for clemency from the CA? Or as he challenges the previous UCI rulings on appeal? Now, perhaps, the MJ dismisses the case. Let the games continue…
    And this, really, is the point. Trump doesn't know anything about the military justice system and he's too proud, stubborn or both to listen to the generals who are around him and do understand these problems.

    He is handing one of the best private practitioners of military law grounds for appeal in a case where the Defense already got a favorable result. Given that the crime hapened in 2009, the version of the Code then in effect gave the commanding general plenary authority to do whatever he feels like with the case. For that matter, the MJ still owns the case.

    Those are the outer edges of what Frank Spinner can now request on his inevitable UCI appeal.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Sledog said:

    This decision mocks the military justice system.

    What the fuck do you know about the military justice system, pray tell?
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,915 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    This decision mocks the military justice system.

    What the fuck do you know about the military justice system, pray tell?
    Not a huge amount but being who you are I'm sure you're cheering letting this turd go. Me not so much. He needs a long time in the gray bar hotel at a minimum.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    This decision mocks the military justice system.

    What the fuck do you know about the military justice system, pray tell?
    Not a huge amount but being who you are I'm sure you're cheering letting this turd go. Me not so much. He needs a long time in the gray bar hotel at a minimum.
    Not the case. I think Bergdahl is a pathetic piece of shit who never should have made it past a recruiter. But I also think that 5 years in a Taliban cage is sufficient under the circumstances.
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  • RedRocket
    RedRocket Member Posts: 1,527
    ^ Fuck you Vanilla.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited November 2017
    From the UCMJ:
    § 837. Art. 37. Unlawfully influencing action of court
    (a) No authority convening a general, special, or summary courtmartial, nor any other commanding officer, may censure, reprimand, or admonish the court or any member, military judge, or counsel thereof, with respect to the findings or sentence adjudged by the court, or with respect to any other exercises of its or his functions in the conduct of the proceedings.
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  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    This is the judge saying Trump’s campaign rhetoric influenced his ability to render a decision?

    Makes you wonder how the little impressionable snowflake gets thru the day, doesn’t it?
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,915 Standard Supporter
    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    This decision mocks the military justice system.

    What the fuck do you know about the military justice system, pray tell?
    Not a huge amount but being who you are I'm sure you're cheering letting this turd go. Me not so much. He needs a long time in the gray bar hotel at a minimum.
    Not the case. I think Bergdahl is a pathetic piece of shit who never should have made it past a recruiter. But I also think that 5 years in a Taliban cage is sufficient under the circumstances.
    He wasn't in a cage he converted just like his father. He was a sympathizer and liked them,
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    AZDuck said:

    Sledog said:

    This decision mocks the military justice system.

    What the fuck do you know about the military justice system, pray tell?
    Not a huge amount but being who you are I'm sure you're cheering letting this turd go. Me not so much. He needs a long time in the gray bar hotel at a minimum.
    Not the case. I think Bergdahl is a pathetic piece of shit who never should have made it past a recruiter. But I also think that 5 years in a Taliban cage is sufficient under the circumstances.
    He wasn't in a cage he converted just like his father. He was a sympathizer and liked them,
    link?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,239 Founders Club
    When AZ goes all Tequila its a tell

    Bergdahl should not be breathing today
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    RaceBannon said:

    When AZ goes all Tequila its a tell

    Bergdahl should not be breathing today

    how many deserters have been executed since, say... 1900?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,239 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    When AZ goes all Tequila its a tell

    Bergdahl should not be breathing today

    how many deserters have been executed since, say... 1900?
    Another tell
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,348 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    When AZ goes all Tequila its a tell

    Bergdahl should not be breathing today

    how many deserters have been executed since, say... 1900?
    image
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    YellowSnow said:

    AZDuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    When AZ goes all Tequila its a tell

    Bergdahl should not be breathing today

    how many deserters have been executed since, say... 1900?
    image
    DING DING DING

    Eddie Slovik. Out of 20,000 deserters in WW2, they executed him. Crazy case, BTW.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,239 Founders Club
    So it should be two

    Irrelevant

    And a tell
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,348 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    YellowSnow said:

    AZDuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    When AZ goes all Tequila its a tell

    Bergdahl should not be breathing today

    how many deserters have been executed since, say... 1900?
    image
    DING DING DING

    Eddie Slovik. Out of 20,000 deserters in WW2, they executed him. Crazy case, BTW.
    Executing deserters is the type of barbaric shit that Russians do. Coincidence here? Hardy har har har...

    All kidding aside, in WW2 we only executed like 100 soldiers but all but one (i.e., Eddie) were rapists and murderers.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    RaceBannon said:

    So it should be two

    Irrelevant

    And a tell

    What facts should the judge have considered that he didn't, Race?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,239 Founders Club
    AZDuck said:

    RaceBannon said:

    So it should be two

    Irrelevant

    And a tell

    What facts should the judge have considered that he didn't, Race?
    How the fuck would I know that? What facts are in question that some piece of shit deserted and got his fellow soldiers killed?

    That's a death penalty. And he didn't even get time.
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