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Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    doogie said:

    There is nothing to discuss. Communists like yourself always exploit tragedy, playing on emotion to advance your political agenda.


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    WASHINGTON — In his prime-time press conference last week, which focused almost solely on Iraq, President Bush mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times than that, often in the same breath with Sept. 11.

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  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    doogie said:

    squirl

    From the dude who screams communist!!!! about a discussion to regulate something that's already regulated.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    edited October 2017
    2001400ex said:

    Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

    Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

    Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

    Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

    Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

    Nothing there that would have stopped him. Nothing. He could pass any background check. he took a long time to prepare for this. The government knew how many guns he was buying as each had to be called in for an instant check.

    I wish you people would learn that you cannot regulate evil people. This is evil, plain and simple. Evil people are often very patient and creative.

    Why not outlaw gasoline? 87 dead. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dozens-die-fire-illegal-bonx-social-club-1990-article-1.2152091

    Oh yeah you want gas for your Honda.

    You can not legislate evil.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

    Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

    Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

    Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

    Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

    Nothing there that would have stopped him. Nothing. He could pass any background check. he took a long time to prepare for this. The government knew how many guns he was buying as each had to be called in for an instant check.

    I wish you people would learn that you cannot regulate evil people. This is evil, plain and simple. Evil people are often very patient and creative.

    Why not outlaw gasoline? 87 dead. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dozens-die-fire-illegal-bonx-social-club-1990-article-1.2152091

    Oh yeah you want gas for your Honda.

    You can not legislate evil.
    How many less people would have been shot if he didn't have a fully automatic weapon with a large clip? You said you knew people who died there. They could have been saved if he didn't have access to that.

    But let's continue to do nothing. Cause gasoline and shit.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

    Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

    Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

    Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

    Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

    Nothing there that would have stopped him. Nothing. He could pass any background check. he took a long time to prepare for this. The government knew how many guns he was buying as each had to be called in for an instant check.

    I wish you people would learn that you cannot regulate evil people. This is evil, plain and simple. Evil people are often very patient and creative.

    Why not outlaw gasoline? 87 dead. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dozens-die-fire-illegal-bonx-social-club-1990-article-1.2152091

    Oh yeah you want gas for your Honda.

    You can not legislate evil.
    How many less people would have been shot if he didn't have a fully automatic weapon with a large clip? You said you knew people who died there. They could have been saved if he didn't have access to that.

    But let's continue to do nothing. Cause gasoline and shit.
    Yeah we outlawed drugs how'd that work out?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

    Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

    Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

    Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

    Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

    Nothing there that would have stopped him. Nothing. He could pass any background check. he took a long time to prepare for this. The government knew how many guns he was buying as each had to be called in for an instant check.

    I wish you people would learn that you cannot regulate evil people. This is evil, plain and simple. Evil people are often very patient and creative.

    Why not outlaw gasoline? 87 dead. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dozens-die-fire-illegal-bonx-social-club-1990-article-1.2152091

    Oh yeah you want gas for your Honda.

    You can not legislate evil.
    How many less people would have been shot if he didn't have a fully automatic weapon with a large clip? You said you knew people who died there. They could have been saved if he didn't have access to that.

    But let's continue to do nothing. Cause gasoline and shit.
    Yeah we outlawed drugs how'd that work out?
    About the same as if we outlaw abortion. Not to mention that no one is calling for banning guns.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

    Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

    Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

    Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

    Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

    Nothing there that would have stopped him. Nothing. He could pass any background check. he took a long time to prepare for this. The government knew how many guns he was buying as each had to be called in for an instant check.

    I wish you people would learn that you cannot regulate evil people. This is evil, plain and simple. Evil people are often very patient and creative.

    Why not outlaw gasoline? 87 dead. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dozens-die-fire-illegal-bonx-social-club-1990-article-1.2152091

    Oh yeah you want gas for your Honda.

    You can not legislate evil.
    How many less people would have been shot if he didn't have a fully automatic weapon with a large clip? You said you knew people who died there. They could have been saved if he didn't have access to that.

    But let's continue to do nothing. Cause gasoline and shit.
    Yeah we outlawed drugs how'd that work out?
    About the same as if we outlaw abortion. Not to mention that no one is calling for banning guns.
    You are, better read your own post.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Without trampling on the Second Amendment, what commonsense steps can be taken to reduce this horrific toll? Here are four:

    Ban devices known as bump stocks and trigger cranks that can be used to modify rifles to fire more like machine guns. Federal law already severely restricts ownership of fully automatic machine guns. Why allow the manufacture and sale of these workarounds?

    Reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, manifestly designed for killing human beings. They were also the weapon of choice in the Pulse nightclub killing of 49 last year and the Sandy Hook slaying of children in 2012. When assault weapons were banned from 1994 to 2004, studies showed a marked decrease in their use. More than three-fifths of Americans favor a new ban.

    Reinstate a ban on large-capacity magazines, typically defined as holding more than 10 rounds. From the sound of automated fire recorded during the Las Vegas shooting, Paddock clearly loaded his rifles with these large magazines. That allowed him to discharge dozens of bullets before reloading. The 1994 federal law also banned these magazines and reduced their use before Congress allowed the law to lapse.

    Limit gun purchases. Between homes and hotel room, Paddock assembled a cache of 49 firearms. During his killing spree, this would have allowed him to move from one rifle to another if a weapon jammed from overheating, a circumstance common when guns are fired continuously at a high rate. Some states limit gun purchases to one per month, a restriction that might have at least slowed Paddock's arming up.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/03/after-las-vegas-4-steps-help-cut-mass-shooting-toll-editorials-debates/724619001/

    Nothing there that would have stopped him. Nothing. He could pass any background check. he took a long time to prepare for this. The government knew how many guns he was buying as each had to be called in for an instant check.

    I wish you people would learn that you cannot regulate evil people. This is evil, plain and simple. Evil people are often very patient and creative.

    Why not outlaw gasoline? 87 dead. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/dozens-die-fire-illegal-bonx-social-club-1990-article-1.2152091

    Oh yeah you want gas for your Honda.

    You can not legislate evil.
    How many less people would have been shot if he didn't have a fully automatic weapon with a large clip? You said you knew people who died there. They could have been saved if he didn't have access to that.

    But let's continue to do nothing. Cause gasoline and shit.
    Yeah we outlawed drugs how'd that work out?
    Aside from Jonestown.gif, drugs don't kill that many people that fast.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,487 Founders Club
    No thanks. I'll choose freedom.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    Cold dead hands.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,850 Standard Supporter
    Hondo I forgot to mention that it was Obingo's BATFE that said bump stocks were OK. So blame Obozo.
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