Guaranteed Basic Income

Kaepsknee

YellowSnow said:

Jesus, some of you guys are just like a bunch of Middlebury students. Why don't you take some free time and actually read the Charles Murray paper posted earlier on universal basic income before trotting out the same tired cliches. Murray's conservative and libertarian chops are fucking legit people. It's all theoretical obviously at this point but he lays down some pretty solid arguments.

Anything that originates from Middlebury will always be tldr around here.

Your pulling from a poisoned well.

Kaepsknee

2001400ex said:

HoustonHusky said:

2001400ex said:

doogie said:

2 trillion in dollar monetization so far this year!

And food stamps are like $70 billion. Get some perspective.

There are something like 250 million adults in the US. Assuming a "guaranteed income" of $20k/yr that's $5 trillion a year, and the govt already spend $1 trillion more than it takes in. You might want to get some perspective.

And hey...we should couple the "guaranteed income" with repeat immigration amnesties and liberal immigration policy...I bet that will make things better.

There is so much FS in this thread it is sad...

In case you haven't noticed. I don't support guaranteed income and further, we already have a method of guaranteed income and the Republicans were the last ones to expand that. It's called the earned income credit.

You'll have to forgive some of us as the free for all program seems right in your #wheelhouse.

oregonblitzkrieg

Gwad said:

“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” - Buckminster Fuller

This guy's poop was probably smarter than the whole Hardcore Husky think tank.

I don't care about your theories. I ordered two burgers and some fries.

PurpleThrobber

2001400ex said:

I'm still curious who is trying to change our economy to a communism and who is pushing for basic income.

I'm just here for the gang bang.

doogie

Gwad said:

Well TLDR; the notion that people should be living with more than they need, while others live with less than what they need is shit.

Why not just give the excess shit to those without who want it?

Mosster47

doogie said:

Market forces? Top down government allocations are now market forces?

Good one.

Why is doogie so dumb so much?

TurdBuffer said:

AZDuck said:

TurdBuffer said:

The idea has been around since the 60's. And it tanks when it's realized that we're theorizing about the impossible: That poor people can be smart and good with money. Kind of a self-explanatory oxymoron.

125 years ago we didn't trust poor people (who were a much larger fraction of society) with the vote. Or anybody with a vagina for that matter.

Greatest time to be alive, ever.

Can't argue with that.

AZDuck

Okay, bored.

You know who massively expanded our very stripped down version of UBI?

Saint Ronald of Reagan.

It's called the "Earned Income Tax Credit."

Southerndawg

AZDuck said:

Okay, bored.

You know who massively expanded our very stripped down version of UBI?

Saint Ronald of Reagan.

It's called the "Earned Income Tax Credit."

It's true, Republican Presidents are responsible for the creation and much of the expansion of the EITC. It was enacted by President Ford under the Tax Reduction Act of 1975, and then expanded under Reagan, and subsequently others. That doesn't make it right nor does it mean it should exist. In fact if not for a massive expansion of the welfare state in the late 60's and early 70's, it would never have been realized, and it is not UBI. First, you have to work to "earn" it, and second, it's limited in value to be well below what most estimate UBI would/should be. On purpose. It is supposed to have a true incentive to work component to it, unlike UBI which is a completely fucktarded idea. UBI supporters try to conflate the idea of temporary assistance with some form of utopian "right" to a "basic livable income". Christ, this thread is riddled with full blown commie aids and exceptional fucktardedry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

doogie

Exactly. Those who don't work deserve money too

TurdBomber

And people say Millennials are entitled. Can you believe it? It's such an unfair stereotype.