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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,702 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    We should have offered them a deal in 1979 and by that I mean free the hostages within 72 hours or declaration of war. They needed to be made an example of and should have never gotten away with that bull shit.

    Carter has proven to be a good statesman and philanthropist in his years after being President but they had not a clue how to handle that situation at the time. And Iran demanded nothing short than the Shahs head on a stick at the time. After Vietnam the US had no appetite nor solid local infrastructure to send troops to Iran at that point. Reagan wasn't afraid to get greasy by playing Iraq and then deal with Iran at the same time by providing arms. It's possible that Carter could have done the same thing as the war with Iraq was imminent. Carter just wasn't greasy like that though.
    Good philanthropist yes, good statesman? Only if you believe America's interests should be sacrificed "for the greater good" or some other such nonsense. On the statesman front he's been more of a meddler and worse. That douchebag has played a central role in brokering shitty deals like the nuclear arms deal Clinton made with North Korea. We'd? all be much better off if he stuck to peanut farming and building houses. Regarding Iran, no doubt there was no appetite for war at the time, but the role of a leader includes making tough decisions in the face of adversity. On Iran parts I and II he has only shown that he is a fuck up and has no balls.
    Carter was a shitty President no doubt. He wouldn't Print money to save the economy which some may have thought as a good thing and hadn't a clue on how to handle the hostage situation. But Carter was the by product of Nixon and the stiff that Was Gerald Ford. Just as Trump is the by product of Black Carter.
    Speaking of the monies and interest rates and what not, some people forget that it was Carter who appointed Paul Volcker. Reagan had balls and gave him the necessary political cover. Hard to imagine that happening with today's pols.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    We should have offered them a deal in 1979 and by that I mean free the hostages within 72 hours or declaration of war. They needed to be made an example of and should have never gotten away with that bull shit.

    Carter has proven to be a good statesman and philanthropist in his years after being President but they had not a clue how to handle that situation at the time. And Iran demanded nothing short than the Shahs head on a stick at the time. After Vietnam the US had no appetite nor solid local infrastructure to send troops to Iran at that point. Reagan wasn't afraid to get greasy by playing Iraq and then deal with Iran at the same time by providing arms. It's possible that Carter could have done the same thing as the war with Iraq was imminent. Carter just wasn't greasy like that though.
    Good philanthropist yes, good statesman? Only if you believe America's interests should be sacrificed "for the greater good" or some other such nonsense. On the statesman front he's been more of a meddler and worse. That douchebag has played a central role in brokering shitty deals like the nuclear arms deal Clinton made with North Korea. We'd? all be much better off if he stuck to peanut farming and building houses. Regarding Iran, no doubt there was no appetite for war at the time, but the role of a leader includes making tough decisions in the face of adversity. On Iran parts I and II he has only shown that he is a fuck up and has no balls.
    Carter was a shitty President no doubt. He wouldn't Print money to save the economy which some may have thought as a good thing and hadn't a clue on how to handle the hostage situation. But Carter was the by product of Nixon and the stiff that Was Gerald Ford. Just as Trump is the by product of Black Carter.
    Holy shit, it's the white whale of chins- i.e., @BearsWiin .

    image
    Just when I thought I had validation too.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076
    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    We should have offered them a deal in 1979 and by that I mean free the hostages within 72 hours or declaration of war. They needed to be made an example of and should have never gotten away with that bull shit.

    Carter has proven to be a good statesman and philanthropist in his years after being President but they had not a clue how to handle that situation at the time. And Iran demanded nothing short than the Shahs head on a stick at the time. After Vietnam the US had no appetite nor solid local infrastructure to send troops to Iran at that point. Reagan wasn't afraid to get greasy by playing Iraq and then deal with Iran at the same time by providing arms. It's possible that Carter could have done the same thing as the war with Iraq was imminent. Carter just wasn't greasy like that though.
    Good philanthropist yes, good statesman? Only if you believe America's interests should be sacrificed "for the greater good" or some other such nonsense. On the statesman front he's been more of a meddler and worse. That douchebag has played a central role in brokering shitty deals like the nuclear arms deal Clinton made with North Korea. We'd? all be much better off if he stuck to peanut farming and building houses. Regarding Iran, no doubt there was no appetite for war at the time, but the role of a leader includes making tough decisions in the face of adversity. On Iran parts I and II he has only shown that he is a fuck up and has no balls.
    Carter was a shitty President no doubt. He wouldn't Print money to save the economy which some may have thought as a good thing and hadn't a clue on how to handle the hostage situation. But Carter was the by product of Nixon and the stiff that Was Gerald Ford. Just as Trump is the by product of Black Carter.
    Holy shit, it's the white whale of chins- i.e., @BearsWiin .

    image
    Just when I thought I had validation too.
    Ima ChinTease
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    We should have offered them a deal in 1979 and by that I mean free the hostages within 72 hours or declaration of war. They needed to be made an example of and should have never gotten away with that bull shit.

    Carter has proven to be a good statesman and philanthropist in his years after being President but they had not a clue how to handle that situation at the time. And Iran demanded nothing short than the Shahs head on a stick at the time. After Vietnam the US had no appetite nor solid local infrastructure to send troops to Iran at that point. Reagan wasn't afraid to get greasy by playing Iraq and then deal with Iran at the same time by providing arms. It's possible that Carter could have done the same thing as the war with Iraq was imminent. Carter just wasn't greasy like that though.
    Good philanthropist yes, good statesman? Only if you believe America's interests should be sacrificed "for the greater good" or some other such nonsense. On the statesman front he's been more of a meddler and worse. That douchebag has played a central role in brokering shitty deals like the nuclear arms deal Clinton made with North Korea. We'd? all be much better off if he stuck to peanut farming and building houses. Regarding Iran, no doubt there was no appetite for war at the time, but the role of a leader includes making tough decisions in the face of adversity. On Iran parts I and II he has only shown that he is a fuck up and has no balls.
    Carter was a shitty President no doubt. He wouldn't Print money to save the economy which some may have thought as a good thing and hadn't a clue on how to handle the hostage situation. But Carter was the by product of Nixon and the stiff that Was Gerald Ford. Just as Trump is the by product of Black Carter.
    Holy shit, it's the white whale of chins- i.e., @BearsWiin .

    image
    Just when I thought I had validation too.
    Ima ChinTease
    Pics?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,702 Founders Club
    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    We should have offered them a deal in 1979 and by that I mean free the hostages within 72 hours or declaration of war. They needed to be made an example of and should have never gotten away with that bull shit.

    Carter has proven to be a good statesman and philanthropist in his years after being President but they had not a clue how to handle that situation at the time. And Iran demanded nothing short than the Shahs head on a stick at the time. After Vietnam the US had no appetite nor solid local infrastructure to send troops to Iran at that point. Reagan wasn't afraid to get greasy by playing Iraq and then deal with Iran at the same time by providing arms. It's possible that Carter could have done the same thing as the war with Iraq was imminent. Carter just wasn't greasy like that though.
    Good philanthropist yes, good statesman? Only if you believe America's interests should be sacrificed "for the greater good" or some other such nonsense. On the statesman front he's been more of a meddler and worse. That douchebag has played a central role in brokering shitty deals like the nuclear arms deal Clinton made with North Korea. We'd? all be much better off if he stuck to peanut farming and building houses. Regarding Iran, no doubt there was no appetite for war at the time, but the role of a leader includes making tough decisions in the face of adversity. On Iran parts I and II he has only shown that he is a fuck up and has no balls.
    Carter was a shitty President no doubt. He wouldn't Print money to save the economy which some may have thought as a good thing and hadn't a clue on how to handle the hostage situation. But Carter was the by product of Nixon and the stiff that Was Gerald Ford. Just as Trump is the by product of Black Carter.
    Holy shit, it's the white whale of chins- i.e., @BearsWiin .

    image
    Just when I thought I had validation too.
    Ima ChinTease
    Hell, I might of just done one of the greatest chin cock blocks of all time in this place. But fuck, if I can't get a Chin with a bad ass gif of Captain Ahab as played by the most famous Cal Rowing Alums of all times, then no one gets one.
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,076

    BearsWiin said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    salemcoog said:

    We should have offered them a deal in 1979 and by that I mean free the hostages within 72 hours or declaration of war. They needed to be made an example of and should have never gotten away with that bull shit.

    Carter has proven to be a good statesman and philanthropist in his years after being President but they had not a clue how to handle that situation at the time. And Iran demanded nothing short than the Shahs head on a stick at the time. After Vietnam the US had no appetite nor solid local infrastructure to send troops to Iran at that point. Reagan wasn't afraid to get greasy by playing Iraq and then deal with Iran at the same time by providing arms. It's possible that Carter could have done the same thing as the war with Iraq was imminent. Carter just wasn't greasy like that though.
    Good philanthropist yes, good statesman? Only if you believe America's interests should be sacrificed "for the greater good" or some other such nonsense. On the statesman front he's been more of a meddler and worse. That douchebag has played a central role in brokering shitty deals like the nuclear arms deal Clinton made with North Korea. We'd? all be much better off if he stuck to peanut farming and building houses. Regarding Iran, no doubt there was no appetite for war at the time, but the role of a leader includes making tough decisions in the face of adversity. On Iran parts I and II he has only shown that he is a fuck up and has no balls.
    Carter was a shitty President no doubt. He wouldn't Print money to save the economy which some may have thought as a good thing and hadn't a clue on how to handle the hostage situation. But Carter was the by product of Nixon and the stiff that Was Gerald Ford. Just as Trump is the by product of Black Carter.
    Holy shit, it's the white whale of chins- i.e., @BearsWiin .

    image
    Just when I thought I had validation too.
    Ima ChinTease
    Hell, I might of just done one of the greatest chin cock blocks of all time in this place. But fuck, if I can't get a Chin with a bad ass gif of Captain Ahab as played by the most famous Cal Rowing Alums of all times, then no one gets one.
    Pressing