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Shitty Player Countdown: Day 17

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  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373

    Warren Moon is interesting because I was there. I believe him and his family that they heard shit in the stands of a racial nature. I didn't because we had 50 yard line Tyee seats among the refined old time UW alums

    But we fucking hated him as a QB. He was horrible all three years EXCEPT for USC and the Rose Bowl as a senior. The opposite of Browning. He struggled against the shit teams.

    He was a more important recruit than Joe Steele regardless of what James said. We had to show LA that the Jim Owens shit show was over. Benching the local hero from Roosevelt who was better QB paid long term benefits.

    But it was tough to watch. Moon's career and HOF election is one of the real surprises to me in sports.

    @RaceBannon what do you mean long term benefits? did UW start recruiting more black players? I am millennial doof that has no perspective on UW before 2000
    We were in trouble with the lucrative So Cal recruiting area after the racial upheaval in the program under Owens. A boycott by the players over an all white staff of Junction Boys who weren't ready for progress.

    USC had at least one Black qb in the 60's. UW was still using quotas and not allowing Blacks to play certain positions.

    Chris Rowland once threw 7 TD passes against Cal and was on the roster. James went to LA CC and brought Moon in year one and started him for his three years of eligibility.

    James told his staff to recruit the guts USC recruited. It made the program
    Was Cal ranked?
    Cal was tuff in the 70's under Mike White. Chuck Muncie, Steve Bartkowski, and Joe Roth among others. Wesley Walker.

    But there is no D in California
    Chuck, Steve and Joe sound old and white.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,474 Founders Club
  • RubberfistRubberfist Member Posts: 1,373
  • whlinderwhlinder Member Posts: 4,591 Standard Supporter
    I was there in 1991 when Moon threw an INT from his own 20 in OT to the Great Darrell Green to lose to Washington at RFK.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,943 Founders Club

    Warren Moon is interesting because I was there. I believe him and his family that they heard shit in the stands of a racial nature. I didn't because we had 50 yard line Tyee seats among the refined old time UW alums

    But we fucking hated him as a QB. He was horrible all three years EXCEPT for USC and the Rose Bowl as a senior. The opposite of Browning. He struggled against the shit teams.

    He was a more important recruit than Joe Steele regardless of what James said. We had to show LA that the Jim Owens shit show was over. Benching the local hero from Roosevelt who was better QB paid long term benefits.

    But it was tough to watch. Moon's career and HOF election is one of the real surprises to me in sports.

    The only QB we put in the NFL Hall had at 49% completion percentage at Washington.
    We?
    Sorry. Eskimos.
  • AIRWOLFAIRWOLF Member Posts: 1,840

    Warren Moon is interesting because I was there. I believe him and his family that they heard shit in the stands of a racial nature. I didn't because we had 50 yard line Tyee seats among the refined old time UW alums

    But we fucking hated him as a QB. He was horrible all three years EXCEPT for USC and the Rose Bowl as a senior. The opposite of Browning. He struggled against the shit teams.

    He was a more important recruit than Joe Steele regardless of what James said. We had to show LA that the Jim Owens shit show was over. Benching the local hero from Roosevelt who was better QB paid long term benefits.

    But it was tough to watch. Moon's career and HOF election is one of the real surprises to me in sports.

    The only QB we put in the NFL Hall had at 49% completion percentage at Washington.
    The passing game was so different back then. A few teams had relatively sophisticated passing games, but many didn't. UW was one of the ones that didn't.

    Joe Montana was a career 52% passer at Notre Dame.

    Still, the difference in Moon's passing accuracy from his days at the UW to his NFL career was shocking.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,474 Founders Club
    AIRWOLF said:

    Warren Moon is interesting because I was there. I believe him and his family that they heard shit in the stands of a racial nature. I didn't because we had 50 yard line Tyee seats among the refined old time UW alums

    But we fucking hated him as a QB. He was horrible all three years EXCEPT for USC and the Rose Bowl as a senior. The opposite of Browning. He struggled against the shit teams.

    He was a more important recruit than Joe Steele regardless of what James said. We had to show LA that the Jim Owens shit show was over. Benching the local hero from Roosevelt who was better QB paid long term benefits.

    But it was tough to watch. Moon's career and HOF election is one of the real surprises to me in sports.

    The only QB we put in the NFL Hall had at 49% completion percentage at Washington.
    The passing game was so different back then. A few teams had relatively sophisticated passing games, but many didn't. UW was one of the ones that didn't.

    Joe Montana was a career 52% passer at Notre Dame.

    Still, the difference in Moon's passing accuracy from his days at the UW to his NFL career was shocking.
    James ran the I and would always run on first and second down then try some short pass to get the first down that Moon would miss 51% of the time. It was frustrating

    Moon threw a great deep ball in college as he did in the pros but we didn't use it near enough
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614

    AIRWOLF said:

    Warren Moon is interesting because I was there. I believe him and his family that they heard shit in the stands of a racial nature. I didn't because we had 50 yard line Tyee seats among the refined old time UW alums

    But we fucking hated him as a QB. He was horrible all three years EXCEPT for USC and the Rose Bowl as a senior. The opposite of Browning. He struggled against the shit teams.

    He was a more important recruit than Joe Steele regardless of what James said. We had to show LA that the Jim Owens shit show was over. Benching the local hero from Roosevelt who was better QB paid long term benefits.

    But it was tough to watch. Moon's career and HOF election is one of the real surprises to me in sports.

    The only QB we put in the NFL Hall had at 49% completion percentage at Washington.
    The passing game was so different back then. A few teams had relatively sophisticated passing games, but many didn't. UW was one of the ones that didn't.

    Joe Montana was a career 52% passer at Notre Dame.

    Still, the difference in Moon's passing accuracy from his days at the UW to his NFL career was shocking.
    James ran the I and would always run on first and second down then try some short pass to get the first down that Moon would miss 51% of the time. It was frustrating

    Moon threw a great deep ball in college as he did in the pros but we didn't use it near enough
    I would have fired him!
  • BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
    edited August 2017
    AIRWOLF said:

    Warren Moon is interesting because I was there. I believe him and his family that they heard shit in the stands of a racial nature. I didn't because we had 50 yard line Tyee seats among the refined old time UW alums

    But we fucking hated him as a QB. He was horrible all three years EXCEPT for USC and the Rose Bowl as a senior. The opposite of Browning. He struggled against the shit teams.

    He was a more important recruit than Joe Steele regardless of what James said. We had to show LA that the Jim Owens shit show was over. Benching the local hero from Roosevelt who was better QB paid long term benefits.

    But it was tough to watch. Moon's career and HOF election is one of the real surprises to me in sports.

    The only QB we put in the NFL Hall had at 49% completion percentage at Washington.
    The passing game was so different back then. A few teams had relatively sophisticated passing games, but many didn't. UW was one of the ones that didn't.

    Joe Montana was a career 52% passer at Notre Dame.

    Still, the difference in Moon's passing accuracy from his days at the UW to his NFL career was shocking.
    Back in those days James offense had three passing plays, one of which he predictably ran 81% of the time on third down. To Race's point, after they ran out of the I on first and second they ran a play action option boot (James called it a sprint out) away from the strong side where the TE ran a drag route across the field and the receiver ran an out. A 50-50 proposition. Sometimes Moon kept it...that's what black QB's did in the 70's until someone figured out black QBs, too, made good decisions in the pocket (heady, smart, film rat) and could find open receivers.
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