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An anonymous PAC 12 coach says our offense is nothing special

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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    5th in conference in ypg, 1st in conference in ppg. That suggests that the offense is efficient, the defense/ST scores a lot, or a little of both.

    Not sure why the comment would be seen as a dig. It's a good offense so far, but this conference has seen USC and Oregon offensive juggernauts in the last dozen years. Those were special; UW's might still be.

    People forget that the 2010 and 14 Oregon juggernauts could only muster 19 and 20 pts respectively in their shots at the natty. It's still possible to shut down a good to great offense.
    No, they don't forget that. They do remember that Chip's offense was really fucking good for several years, and it got them to two NC games despite having suspect defenses.
    Actually Oregon defenses were good. Just ran into better teams. And when you cant control clock, and dont care to you get fickered. All about trenches. Oregon got out-trenched twice.

    Thing is, Oregon had good lines. Just not enough to compete with SEC lines. (tOSU had an SEC DL; and a big10 Oline).
    So you admit that SEC is a superior conference.
    Bammer, LSU and maybe two other teams have really good d lines, or it's been like that in the past ten years. I honestly don't watch a lot of SEC football. No QB is worth anything though.

    Media idiots saying the first six SEC teams are all better than the best Big 10 team are what people can't stand.
    Football idiot finally admits the truth.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,519 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    5th in conference in ypg, 1st in conference in ppg. That suggests that the offense is efficient, the defense/ST scores a lot, or a little of both.

    Not sure why the comment would be seen as a dig. It's a good offense so far, but this conference has seen USC and Oregon offensive juggernauts in the last dozen years. Those were special; UW's might still be.

    People forget that the 2010 and 14 Oregon juggernauts could only muster 19 and 20 pts respectively in their shots at the natty. It's still possible to shut down a good to great offense.
    No, they don't forget that. They do remember that Chip's offense was really fucking good for several years, and it got them to two NC games despite having suspect defenses.
    Actually Oregon defenses were good. Just ran into better teams. And when you cant control clock, and dont care to you get fickered. All about trenches. Oregon got out-trenched twice.

    Thing is, Oregon had good lines. Just not enough to compete with SEC lines. (tOSU had an SEC DL; and a big10 Oline).
    So you admit that SEC is a superior conference.
    Bammer, LSU and maybe two other teams have really good d lines, or it's been like that in the past ten years. I honestly don't watch a lot of SEC football. No QB is worth anything though.

    Media idiots saying the first six SEC teams are all better than the best Big 10 team are what people can't stand.
    Football idiot finally admits the truth.
    Anyone with half a brain knows the SEC is a fraud.
  • DeepSeaZDeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    The coach was right about our offense though. It isn't full of schemes and bullshit. It's a fuck you offense ran really well. It's almost like coaching counts. We just need our QB to quit shitting the bed when moments matter. By the grace of Allah, that can happen, we can win it all. It won't happen so FYFMFE.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    5th in conference in ypg, 1st in conference in ppg. That suggests that the offense is efficient, the defense/ST scores a lot, or a little of both.

    Not sure why the comment would be seen as a dig. It's a good offense so far, but this conference has seen USC and Oregon offensive juggernauts in the last dozen years. Those were special; UW's might still be.

    People forget that the 2010 and 14 Oregon juggernauts could only muster 19 and 20 pts respectively in their shots at the natty. It's still possible to shut down a good to great offense.
    No, they don't forget that. They do remember that Chip's offense was really fucking good for several years, and it got them to two NC games despite having suspect defenses.
    Actually Oregon defenses were good. Just ran into better teams. And when you cant control clock, and dont care to you get fickered. All about trenches. Oregon got out-trenched twice.

    Thing is, Oregon had good lines. Just not enough to compete with SEC lines. (tOSU had an SEC DL; and a big10 Oline).
    So you admit that SEC is a superior conference.
    Bammer, LSU and maybe two other teams have really good d lines, or it's been like that in the past ten years. I honestly don't watch a lot of SEC football. No QB is worth anything though.

    Media idiots saying the first six SEC teams are all better than the best Big 10 team are what people can't stand.
    Football idiot finally admits the truth.
    Anyone with half a brain knows the SEC is a fraud.
    Winners win.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    DeepSeaZ said:

    The coach was right about our offense though. It isn't full of schemes and bullshit. It's a fuck you offense ran really well. It's almost like coaching counts. We just need our QB and OC to quit shitting the bed when moments matter. By the grace of Allah, that can happen, we can win it all. It won't happen so FYFMFE.

  • FremontTrollFremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    5th in conference in ypg, 1st in conference in ppg. That suggests that the offense is efficient, the defense/ST scores a lot, or a little of both.

    Not sure why the comment would be seen as a dig. It's a good offense so far, but this conference has seen USC and Oregon offensive juggernauts in the last dozen years. Those were special; UW's might still be.

    People forget that the 2010 and 14 Oregon juggernauts could only muster 19 and 20 pts respectively in their shots at the natty. It's still possible to shut down a good to great offense.
    No, they don't forget that. They do remember that Chip's offense was really fucking good for several years, and it got them to two NC games despite having suspect defenses.
    Actually Oregon defenses were good. Just ran into better teams. And when you cant control clock, and dont care to you get fickered. All about trenches. Oregon got out-trenched twice.

    Thing is, Oregon had good lines. Just not enough to compete with SEC lines. (tOSU had an SEC DL; and a big10 Oline).
    Never a top-10 ppg defense. #12 in 2010, #13 in 2013. 2009 was #52, 2011 was #52, 2012 was #25, 2014 was #31. Defenses underperformed compared to the offenses, which were top-5 ppg 2010-2014, and #8 in 2009.
    PPG is an awful metric to compare with especially since Oregon's games were much longer than average.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    5th in conference in ypg, 1st in conference in ppg. That suggests that the offense is efficient, the defense/ST scores a lot, or a little of both.

    Not sure why the comment would be seen as a dig. It's a good offense so far, but this conference has seen USC and Oregon offensive juggernauts in the last dozen years. Those were special; UW's might still be.

    People forget that the 2010 and 14 Oregon juggernauts could only muster 19 and 20 pts respectively in their shots at the natty. It's still possible to shut down a good to great offense.
    No, they don't forget that. They do remember that Chip's offense was really fucking good for several years, and it got them to two NC games despite having suspect defenses.
    Actually Oregon defenses were good. Just ran into better teams. And when you cant control clock, and dont care to you get fickered. All about trenches. Oregon got out-trenched twice.

    Thing is, Oregon had good lines. Just not enough to compete with SEC lines. (tOSU had an SEC DL; and a big10 Oline).
    Never a top-10 ppg defense. #12 in 2010, #13 in 2013. 2009 was #52, 2011 was #52, 2012 was #25, 2014 was #31. Defenses underperformed compared to the offenses, which were top-5 ppg 2010-2014, and #8 in 2009.
    PPG is an awful metric to compare with especially since Oregon's games were much longer than average.
    Agreed. Those numbers actually look pretty good considering their style of offense at the time but it's hard to tell.

    I'm also not sure how "underperforming" compared to a top 5 offense = suspect.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 19,904 Founders Club

    Didnt sound like a shot. They dont blow teams away offensively. Theyre systematic, calculated, precise. They score a lot on shit teams ANd score just enough vs good teams...or not enough (SC, BAMBAM)

    This year they will score enough vs good teams. Been saying '17 is the year for over 3 years. Fuck are you guys this ignernt?

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    The best part of this .gif is the catcher looking away in disgust. It gone.
  • dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited August 2017
    With the tight ends and run game being as good as they are I think we? Play a lot more power run and play action this year. OTOH babushka is still calling plays.
    Pass offense and potentially pass rush are the two biggest concerns for me. Given what we are returning in those spots that's saying a lot about the team
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,851
    dhdawg said:

    With the tight ends and run game being as good as they are I think we? Play a lot more power run and play action this year. OTOH babushka is still calling plays.
    Pass offense and potentially pass rush are the two biggest concerns for me. Given what we are returning in those spots that's saying a lot about the team

    If you mean panic and throw the ball 60 times then yeah.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,474 Founders Club

    BearsWiin said:

    BearsWiin said:

    5th in conference in ypg, 1st in conference in ppg. That suggests that the offense is efficient, the defense/ST scores a lot, or a little of both.

    Not sure why the comment would be seen as a dig. It's a good offense so far, but this conference has seen USC and Oregon offensive juggernauts in the last dozen years. Those were special; UW's might still be.

    People forget that the 2010 and 14 Oregon juggernauts could only muster 19 and 20 pts respectively in their shots at the natty. It's still possible to shut down a good to great offense.
    No, they don't forget that. They do remember that Chip's offense was really fucking good for several years, and it got them to two NC games despite having suspect defenses.
    Actually Oregon defenses were good. Just ran into better teams. And when you cant control clock, and dont care to you get fickered. All about trenches. Oregon got out-trenched twice.

    Thing is, Oregon had good lines. Just not enough to compete with SEC lines. (tOSU had an SEC DL; and a big10 Oline).
    So you admit that SEC is a superior conference.
    Bammer, LSU and maybe two other teams have really good d lines, or it's been like that in the past ten years. I honestly don't watch a lot of SEC football. No QB is worth anything though.

    Media idiots saying the first six SEC teams are all better than the best Big 10 team are what people can't stand.
    Football idiot finally admits the truth.
    Anyone with half a brain knows the SEC is a fraud.
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