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Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)
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This conversation has whiskey dick. Not sure if it'll ever finish.
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Puka was a bit of luck. I am sure Delgado wasn’t a take. However, this bored severely underrates Pittman. Oregon had a bigger need at WR.chuck said:
See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.lawsandl said:
Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?chuck said:
That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.StrongArmCobra said:
You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.chuck said:
Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.RoadDawg55 said:LaMichael_Corleone said:And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?
Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.
I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.chuck said:
I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.NEsnake12 said:Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant
We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
I can’t tell you who you got in the last class that’s better than Dollars as a APB. -
I don't underrate Pittman. I though he was good when UW was recruiting him. But he's a short, slot guy and UW needed more size at the position. I wouldn't trade Taj Davis or Puka for Pittman.lawsandl said:
Puka was a bit of luck. I am sure Delgado wasn’t a take. However, this bored severely underrates Pittman. Oregon had a bigger need at WR.chuck said:
See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.lawsandl said:
Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?chuck said:
That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.StrongArmCobra said:
You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.chuck said:
Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.RoadDawg55 said:LaMichael_Corleone said:And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?
Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.
I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.chuck said:
I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.NEsnake12 said:Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant
We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
I can’t tell you who you got in the last class that’s better than Dollars as a APB.
Cameron Davis is better than any RB Oregon got last class. Dollars is shifty and quick but is pretty maxed out physically and doesn't have great long speed. Davis is bigger with more long speed. Both can catch the ball well.
I don't understand how Dollars fits Oregon's new style. Mario wants to pound the rock and be physical and yet Dollars is a smaller, more finesse back. -
Most teams signed someone better than Dollars because he is complete JAG shite
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I think Dollars was the backup RB on his high school team by the mid point of last season. He definitely wasn’t starting in the playoffs.
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Puka is a gamer and Davis is underrated. That being said, Waters is really underrated and Pittman is a pitbull. Puka will be fun to watch.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't underrate Pittman. I though he was good when UW was recruiting him. But he's a short, slot guy and UW needed more size at the position. I wouldn't trade Taj Davis or Puka for Pittman.lawsandl said:
Puka was a bit of luck. I am sure Delgado wasn’t a take. However, this bored severely underrates Pittman. Oregon had a bigger need at WR.chuck said:
See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.lawsandl said:
Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?chuck said:
That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.StrongArmCobra said:
You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.chuck said:
Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.RoadDawg55 said:LaMichael_Corleone said:And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?
Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.
I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.chuck said:
I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.NEsnake12 said:Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant
We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
I can’t tell you who you got in the last class that’s better than Dollars as a APB.
Cameron Davis is better than any RB Oregon got last class. Dollars is shifty and quick but Davis is bigger and faster. Both can catch the ball well.
Also, Davis has neither elite size or speed. They both have great vision but Dollars looks thicker to me. Davis is awfully skinny and has a wiry frame.
Wilson is more of what Cristobal and Mastro are looking to get. So, there are different evaluations due to scheme and need.
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Davis has home run speed. It's all over his film. He's 6'0 195 right now and will fill out to 210ish in a year or two. Davis is a Travis Etienne kind of guy.lawsandl said:
Puka is a gamer and Davis is underrated. That being said, Waters is really underrated and Pittman is a pitbull. Puka will be fun to watch.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't underrate Pittman. I though he was good when UW was recruiting him. But he's a short, slot guy and UW needed more size at the position. I wouldn't trade Taj Davis or Puka for Pittman.lawsandl said:
Puka was a bit of luck. I am sure Delgado wasn’t a take. However, this bored severely underrates Pittman. Oregon had a bigger need at WR.chuck said:
See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.lawsandl said:
Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?chuck said:
That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.StrongArmCobra said:
You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.chuck said:
Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.RoadDawg55 said:LaMichael_Corleone said:And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?
Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.
I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.chuck said:
I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.NEsnake12 said:Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant
We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
I can’t tell you who you got in the last class that’s better than Dollars as a APB.
Cameron Davis is better than any RB Oregon got last class. Dollars is shifty and quick but Davis is bigger and faster. Both can catch the ball well.
Also, Davis has neither elite size or speed. They both have great vision but Dollars looks thicker to me. Davis is awfully skinny and has a wiry frame.
Wilson is more of what Cristobal and Mastro are looking to get. So, there are different evaluations due to scheme and need.
UW only recruited Wilson as a LB. I don't think he has the vision to be more than a straight line pounder and short yardage back. -
From the Mater Dei guys, they wanted the starter to get exposure. Also, Dollars isn’t a workhorse back. He’s not going to Oregon to do that either. Wilson will be the workhorse.Meek said:I think Dollars was the backup RB on his high school team by the mid point of last season. He definitely wasn’t starting in the playoffs.
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The scouts that evaluated him corroborate what I am saying. I am not saying he doesn’t grow but he is definitely penalized in his ranking for frame. Also, the workhorse in Oregon scheme values vision much less than yours. The technique is different.StrongArmCobra said:
Davis has home run speed. It's all over his film. He's 6'0 195 right now and will fill out to 210ish in a year or two. Davis is a Travis Etienne kind of guy.lawsandl said:
Puka is a gamer and Davis is underrated. That being said, Waters is really underrated and Pittman is a pitbull. Puka will be fun to watch.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't underrate Pittman. I though he was good when UW was recruiting him. But he's a short, slot guy and UW needed more size at the position. I wouldn't trade Taj Davis or Puka for Pittman.lawsandl said:
Puka was a bit of luck. I am sure Delgado wasn’t a take. However, this bored severely underrates Pittman. Oregon had a bigger need at WR.chuck said:
See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.lawsandl said:
Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?chuck said:
That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.StrongArmCobra said:
You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.chuck said:
Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.RoadDawg55 said:LaMichael_Corleone said:And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?
Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.
I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.chuck said:
I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.NEsnake12 said:Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant
We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
I can’t tell you who you got in the last class that’s better than Dollars as a APB.
Cameron Davis is better than any RB Oregon got last class. Dollars is shifty and quick but Davis is bigger and faster. Both can catch the ball well.
Also, Davis has neither elite size or speed. They both have great vision but Dollars looks thicker to me. Davis is awfully skinny and has a wiry frame.
Wilson is more of what Cristobal and Mastro are looking to get. So, there are different evaluations due to scheme and need.
UW only recruited Wilson as a LB. I don't think he has the vision to be more than a straight line pounder and short yardage back. -
What scouts? Like I said, Davis is already 195. He'll be 200+ in a couple months. His size and frame is perfect for a medium-sized RB with speed.lawsandl said:
The scouts that evaluated him corroborate what I am saying. I am not saying he doesn’t grow but he is definitely penalized in his ranking for frame. Also, the workhorse in Oregon scheme values vision much less than yours. The technique is different.StrongArmCobra said:
Davis has home run speed. It's all over his film. He's 6'0 195 right now and will fill out to 210ish in a year or two. Davis is a Travis Etienne kind of guy.lawsandl said:
Puka is a gamer and Davis is underrated. That being said, Waters is really underrated and Pittman is a pitbull. Puka will be fun to watch.StrongArmCobra said:
I don't underrate Pittman. I though he was good when UW was recruiting him. But he's a short, slot guy and UW needed more size at the position. I wouldn't trade Taj Davis or Puka for Pittman.lawsandl said:
Puka was a bit of luck. I am sure Delgado wasn’t a take. However, this bored severely underrates Pittman. Oregon had a bigger need at WR.chuck said:
See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.lawsandl said:
Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?chuck said:
That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.StrongArmCobra said:
You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.chuck said:
Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.RoadDawg55 said:LaMichael_Corleone said:And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?
Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.
I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.chuck said:
I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.NEsnake12 said:Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant
We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
I can’t tell you who you got in the last class that’s better than Dollars as a APB.
Cameron Davis is better than any RB Oregon got last class. Dollars is shifty and quick but Davis is bigger and faster. Both can catch the ball well.
Also, Davis has neither elite size or speed. They both have great vision but Dollars looks thicker to me. Davis is awfully skinny and has a wiry frame.
Wilson is more of what Cristobal and Mastro are looking to get. So, there are different evaluations due to scheme and need.
UW only recruited Wilson as a LB. I don't think he has the vision to be more than a straight line pounder and short yardage back.
I don't see how vision isn't valued for every RB regardless of scheme. It's the most important trait for playing the position.
