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Johnny Wilson, 2020 5* WR, Calabasas, CA (Offered 7/14/17)

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,805 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadDawg55 said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?


    Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.

    chuck said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant

    Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.
    I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.
    I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.

    We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
    Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.
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  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,381 Founders Club
    lawsandl said:

    Wilson has a verified 4.31 shuttle. He’s not Metcalf.

    "verified"
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  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    Sources said:

    lawsandl said:

    Wilson has a verified 4.31 shuttle. He’s not Metcalf.

    "verified"
    It’s laser timed from the opening. The kid moves better than he should at that size. That’s why he’s 98 composite player. What I’ve noticed though is this board loves them some comparisons. It’s always the ones that fit the narrative.

    The issue with Wilson is his physicality. It’s not anything to do with athleticism. He’s got the raw material to be a beast if he has the mentality.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    chuck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?


    Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.

    chuck said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant

    Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.
    I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.
    I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.

    We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
    Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.
    You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on from him completely. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have. He's hoping to show UW some more physicality and edge to hid game his Senior season and earn a committable offer. It has nothing to do with UW's pitch or him being less interested in UW. It's the other way around, he's still interested but they're less interested in him at this time.
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  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019
    HuskyClaws said:

    His straight line speed is good, but we already knew that. It takes him forever to change direction though. By the time he turns around, someone like Byron Murphy would be waiting for him at the end of his route. Maybe his footwork is somewhat coachable? Not sure.

    Reminds me of Metcalf a bit. Physical freak who can run straight really fast, but had a slower shuttle and 3-cone than Tom Brady. Metcalf was great in college. We'll see if he can be more than a one-trick pony in the NFL. Wilson is a big enough physical freak to be a mismatch at the college level, even if he has a limited route tree.

    Dude Metcalf has 4.3 speed and is a million times stronger than Wilson. Wilson is not even close to being a physical freak like that. He's Brayden Lenius.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,805 Swaye's Wigwam
    StrongArmCobra said:

    chuck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?


    Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.

    chuck said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant

    Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.
    I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.
    I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.

    We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
    Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.
    You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.
    That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.
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  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    chuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    chuck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?


    Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.

    chuck said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant

    Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.
    I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.
    I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.

    We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
    Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.
    You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.
    That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.
    Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,805 Swaye's Wigwam
    lawsandl said:

    chuck said:

    StrongArmCobra said:

    chuck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    And oh btw remember when you guys bashed Eklund for saying Bishop Sankey wasn’t tough enough to warrant recruiting attention until he committed and he was “All Dawg”?


    Not saying that it’s the equivalent I’m just flashing a mirror real quick to see if that’s the road you wanna be sold on for why he’s not coming here.

    chuck said:

    LaMichael_Corleone said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Let’s not forget that we’re still in a good spot for both Rome and Gary Bryant

    Rome is the only Johnny replacement. 6’3 3.99 shuttle we will take that all fucking day. Lock it the fuck up.
    I'm all in on Odunze and have been since he was offered. If it came down to a choice between him and Wilson, which ballzdumb is so certain has already happened, I'd choose Odunze. I dont think that choice has been made by UW though. They're equal priorities, or were before Wilson didn't like the soft criticism from Adams, and now UW is in a better place with Odunze. There's no fucking way on earth that UW is willingly, knowingly, conceding Wilsin to the ducks though.
    I doubt Pete cares that much about sticking it to Oregon. If he gets Rome and Bryant, there isn’t much you can do about Wilson.

    We’re not going to take another WR just to prevent him from playing for a rival. You focus on the guys you get. It’s not about who everyone else gets.
    Its not about sticking it to Oregon. Its about not conceding him. I dont think they've moved on, as ballz keeps insisting. The pitch just hasn't been working on him as well as it was early on.
    You're wrong. Odunze and Bryant are higher on the board. Wilson does not have a committable offer right now. I never said they moved on. I said they cooled on him and put him on the back burner which they have.
    That's your read of the tea leaves, and nothing more. You could be right, but your consistency on situations like this, where Oregon takes the lead over UW with a particular prospect, is suspect at best and doogish at worst. He may have been moved down the list, or he may have moved down the list due to waning I interest on his part. You dont know.
    Is there an instance where he says UW got beat by Oregon?
    See his answer to me. Apparently he has...once.

    Hes actually right often enough that I take his reads on recruiting a lot more seriously than my replies to him might indicate. Ballz may be immature and narcissistic but hes not dumb (though I like to tell him he is because it pleases me to do so). He was right for the most part last year. The UW offered guys who ended up at Oregon, like Dollars and the FB from the same school, Pittman, and Delgado, were all a step down from who UW ended up with.
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