Caleb Tremblay, 4* 2018 DT, Sacramento (American River JC), CA
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That's awful news if true.pat_hm said:
I think Togiai is leaning more towards Ohio State than USC. He's there on an unofficial right now and when you look at his twitter he's obsessed with Urban and all things Ohio State. Either way, he ain't coming to Washington.dnc said:
Togiai is going to USC, why would you want him to wait to declare that?Petersen3098 said:Yeah it does seem like he's waiting out for more offers. Maybe he wants an LA school to offer him. Hopefully Togiai doesnt make a decision yet because SC will be offering him next.
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Fuck anybody that willingly wants to live in Ohio
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Either way, if he stalls his decision, OSU and SC might wait on him and not offer Tremblay yet
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You forgot Levi.BallzDeep said:Bowman, McCoy, and Taimani would be a pretty good three-deep at NT after the Greg Gaines era. Would be a damn good three-deep if Bowman shared some of his roids with McCoy.
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You clearly haven't caught onto the fact that we play a 2-2-2-5 defenseBallzDeep said:
Huh? Levi isn't a NT he's a 3-tech.Dennis_DeYoung said:
You forgot Levi.BallzDeep said:Bowman, McCoy, and Taimani would be a pretty good three-deep at NT after the Greg Gaines era. Would be a damn good three-deep if Bowman shared some of his roids with McCoy.
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I would categorize Sam and Buck as OLB rather than DL.
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A 4-2-5 implies we play DEs, which we don't, but your poont about NT and 3tech stands.BallzDeep said:
Huh? More like a 4-2-5 numb nuts. NT's are 0-1 techs. Levi is a 3-tech DT not a NT. I was only talking about NT's.Tequilla said:
You clearly haven't caught onto the fact that we play a 2-2-2-5 defenseBallzDeep said:
Huh? Levi isn't a NT he's a 3-tech.Dennis_DeYoung said:
You forgot Levi.BallzDeep said:Bowman, McCoy, and Taimani would be a pretty good three-deep at NT after the Greg Gaines era. Would be a damn good three-deep if Bowman shared some of his roids with McCoy.
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We are pretty flexible in the front six.
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Everyone is essentially making the same point. The base defense is essentially a 4-2-5. 2-4-5, 2-2-2-5... Whatever the fuck you want to call it. We all watch the games.
The Sam/Buck are hybrid types, with more of an emphasis on rushing the passer than coverage.
Mathis and Kikaha were tweener DE's or 3/4 OLB's. Enough Hugh Mullen bullshit. -
The problem is a lot of fucking idiots out there think we play DEs, so I'm going to keep pushing that until those people are wiped off the face of the earth.RoadDawg55 said:Everyone is essentially making the same point. The base defense is essentially a 4-2-5. 2-4-5, 2-2-2-5... Whatever the fuck you want to call it. We all watch the games.
The Sam/Buck are hybrid types, with more of an emphasis on rushing the passer than coverage.
Mathis and Kikaha were tweener DE's or 3/4 OLB's. Enough Hugh Mullen bullshit. -
Rule 1. Mods?CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:
The problem is a lot of fucking idiots out there think we play DEs, so I'm going to keep pushing that until those people are wiped off the face of the earth.RoadDawg55 said:Everyone is essentially making the same point. The base defense is essentially a 4-2-5. 2-4-5, 2-2-2-5... Whatever the fuck you want to call it. We all watch the games.
The Sam/Buck are hybrid types, with more of an emphasis on rushing the passer than coverage.
Mathis and Kikaha were tweener DE's or 3/4 OLB's. Enough Hugh Mullen bullshit. -
I think we could really use some DE's this year. Like Tremblay.
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Without getting overly precious, I think it's best represented as a 2-2-2-5 because we essentially look for 4 different body types in recruiting.
We look for "inside guys" (NTs and 3Ts have not traditionally been so clearly different in our defense), then BUCK/SAM types... then inside LB types.
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I guess you're too young to remember Feeny and Littleton playing Buck and Sam.BallzDeep said:Buck and Sam are DE's. If your playing DE 95% of the time out of a two point stance and dropping into coverage 5% of the time your a fucking DE. Standing up instead of putting your hand in the ground to show the QB that you're a threat to drop into coverage doesn't make you an OLB. When the Buck or Sam do drop into coverage all they do is drop into a zone in the flat. The coaches rarely drop them into coverage because they are susceptible to getting beat by RB's on wheel routes. Don't try to correct me if you don't know shit.
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How will we replace them?NeGgaPlEaSe said:
I guess you're too young to remember Feeny and Littleton playing Buck and Sam.BallzDeep said:Buck and Sam are DE's. If your playing DE 95% of the time out of a two point stance and dropping into coverage 5% of the time your a fucking DE. Standing up instead of putting your hand in the ground to show the QB that you're a threat to drop into coverage doesn't make you an OLB. When the Buck or Sam do drop into coverage all they do is drop into a zone in the flat. The coaches rarely drop them into coverage because they are susceptible to getting beat by RB's on wheel routes. Don't try to correct me if you don't know shit.
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I am so fucking here for this DE versus none DE argument, let's gooooooo!BallzDeep said:Buck and Sam are DE's. If your playing DE 95% of the time out of a two point stance and dropping into coverage 5% of the time your a fucking DE. Standing up instead of putting your hand in the ground to show the QB that you're a threat to drop into coverage doesn't make you an OLB. When the Buck or Sam do drop into coverage all they do is drop into a zone in the flat. The coaches rarely drop them into coverage because they are susceptible to getting beat by RB's on wheel routes. Don't try to correct me if you don't know shit.
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#TeamNoDE
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If anything besides a 2-2-2-5 it's a 3-3-5. Sam is not a DE by any stretch. Buck is a hybrid.
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#TSIOBoredBitches know UW doesn't use DE's!dnc said:#TeamNoDE
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Around here it is "FUCK OFF!!!!"BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody. -
Centimeters?dnc said:
Wow, I was hoping we'd get this kid but didn't think he was anywhere near that caliber.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, he's fucking fantastic. Especially if he can get here for Spring, I think he will be a force.dnc said:
Seriously you think he's that good?Dennis_DeYoung said:Getting Tremblay would essentially offset the loss of Marlon. Please god, let it happen.
Bama doesn't just offer guys randomly. They offer tons of players, but the guys they offer are legit.
He honestly reminds me of Emptermann a little bit. He is super quick and really powerful.
After an offseason with Socha and our culture, I expect him to be a serious force to go with Levi, Jaylen and (hopefully) Gaines.
Now that my doog boner has gone to 11, I'll begin preparing myself for the chinevitable heartbreak when he goes somewhere else.
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Millimeters?dnc said:
Wow, I was hoping we'd get this kid but didn't think he was anywhere near that caliber.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Yeah, he's fucking fantastic. Especially if he can get here for Spring, I think he will be a force.dnc said:
Seriously you think he's that good?Dennis_DeYoung said:Getting Tremblay would essentially offset the loss of Marlon. Please god, let it happen.
Bama doesn't just offer guys randomly. They offer tons of players, but the guys they offer are legit.
He honestly reminds me of Emptermann a little bit. He is super quick and really powerful.
After an offseason with Socha and our culture, I expect him to be a serious force to go with Levi, Jaylen and (hopefully) Gaines.
Now that my doog boner has gone to 11, I'll begin preparing myself for the chinevitable heartbreak when he goes somewhere else.
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Mods?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody. -
I love you. Please be funny.BallzDeep said:
Yes they were their Senior seasons (2015).NeGgaPlEaSe said:
I guess you're too young to remember Feeny and Littleton playing Buck and Sam.BallzDeep said:Buck and Sam are DE's. If your playing DE 95% of the time out of a two point stance and dropping into coverage 5% of the time your a fucking DE. Standing up instead of putting your hand in the ground to show the QB that you're a threat to drop into coverage doesn't make you an OLB. When the Buck or Sam do drop into coverage all they do is drop into a zone in the flat. The coaches rarely drop them into coverage because they are susceptible to getting beat by RB's on wheel routes. Don't try to correct me if you don't know shit.
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So would you classify Von Miller as a DE?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody. -
So you're basically disagreeing with how almost all 3-4 teams are classified?BallzDeep said:
Absolutely. He basically plays the Broncos version of Buck. He's a stand-up DE that has the speed to drop into the flat and cover RB's coming out of the backfield. Most of the time he's just playing DE and I've never seen him play true OLB 5-yards off of the line of scrimmage like KJ Wright.FKA_Mousecop said:
So would you classify Von Miller as a DE?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody. -
You are making my head hurt ...BallzDeep said:
3-4 teams don't have stand up DEs and I can't think of any team that is still running a 3-4 defense. Not enough pass rushers. Everybody is running a 4-3 or 4-2-5 or a hybrid between the two.FKA_Mousecop said:
So you're basically disagreeing with how almost all 3-4 teams are classified?BallzDeep said:
Absolutely. He basically plays the Broncos version of Buck. He's a stand-up DE that has the speed to drop into the flat and cover RB's coming out of the backfield. Most of the time he's just playing DE and I've never seen him play true OLB 5-yards off of the line of scrimmage like KJ Wright.FKA_Mousecop said:
So would you classify Von Miller as a DE?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody.
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BallzDeep said:
3-4 teams don't have stand up DEs and I can't think of any team that is still running a 3-4 defense. Not enough pass rushers. Everybody is running a 4-3 or 4-2-5 or a hybrid between the two.FKA_Mousecop said:
So you're basically disagreeing with how almost all 3-4 teams are classified?BallzDeep said:
Absolutely. He basically plays the Broncos version of Buck. He's a stand-up DE that has the speed to drop into the flat and cover RB's coming out of the backfield. Most of the time he's just playing DE and I've never seen him play true OLB 5-yards off of the line of scrimmage like KJ Wright.FKA_Mousecop said:
So would you classify Von Miller as a DE?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody.
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Disagree. This is some Hugh Millen shit. A pass rusher is a pass rusher.dnc said:BallzDeep said:
3-4 teams don't have stand up DEs and I can't think of any team that is still running a 3-4 defense. Not enough pass rushers. Everybody is running a 4-3 or 4-2-5 or a hybrid between the two.FKA_Mousecop said:
So you're basically disagreeing with how almost all 3-4 teams are classified?BallzDeep said:
Absolutely. He basically plays the Broncos version of Buck. He's a stand-up DE that has the speed to drop into the flat and cover RB's coming out of the backfield. Most of the time he's just playing DE and I've never seen him play true OLB 5-yards off of the line of scrimmage like KJ Wright.FKA_Mousecop said:
So would you classify Von Miller as a DE?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody. -
You want to say it's semantics I'm fine with that. I disagree but whatever. But he's not claiming semantics. He's saying nobody runs a 3-4 and that Von Miller's a defensive end. Which is ridiculous.RoadDawg55 said:
Disagree. This is some Hugh Millen shit. A pass rusher is a pass rusher.dnc said:BallzDeep said:
3-4 teams don't have stand up DEs and I can't think of any team that is still running a 3-4 defense. Not enough pass rushers. Everybody is running a 4-3 or 4-2-5 or a hybrid between the two.FKA_Mousecop said:
So you're basically disagreeing with how almost all 3-4 teams are classified?BallzDeep said:
Absolutely. He basically plays the Broncos version of Buck. He's a stand-up DE that has the speed to drop into the flat and cover RB's coming out of the backfield. Most of the time he's just playing DE and I've never seen him play true OLB 5-yards off of the line of scrimmage like KJ Wright.FKA_Mousecop said:
So would you classify Von Miller as a DE?BallzDeep said:A true OLB plays 5-yards off the line off scrimmage, plays in coverage against the pass, and only rushes the QB when a blitz calls for it. A player that plays on the line of scrimmage, defends the run as a DE, rushes the QB as a DE, but a couple of times a game drops into zone-flat coverage is a DE. Doesn't matter if he plays out of a two-point stance or a three-point stance, he's a motherfucking DE.
Last season our defense played nickel 70% of snaps. The Buck position doesn't change between base and nickel. That motherfucker is playing DE 95-100% of snaps and it varies a bit depending on how fast/athletic the player is in coverage. In nickel the SAM is the same as Buck, a DE that occasionally drops into coverage. In base, the SAM is a true OLB like I previously mentioned. Overall the Buck is 95% DE 5% OLB and the SAM is 70% DE and 30% OLB. This is why the players at Buck tend to be bigger than players at SAM. The SAM has to a bit lighter and faster because he plays a bit more in coverage. Regardless, both motherfuckers are playing mostly DE unless the defense switches back to being predominantly their base package like it was in 2014. End of argument. Fuck me, Fuck you, and Fuck everybody.
Everybody has a base 4 man rush. Some do it with all four guys with at least one hand down, some do it with three guys with a hand down and one of them standing up. UW does it with two with a hand down and two standing up. If you don't care how they're classified that's fine. Claiming that Von Miller is a defensive lineman is not.
