For those who claim LBJ is #2 all time
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Exactly ...
And the other dirty secret is that 2 of LBJ's 3 titles required all the bounces in the world going in his favor
If he had 1 title instead of 3 there's ZERO discussion of him being anywhere near Jordan ok the all time list -
He got some lucky bounces, but he's earned his three rings.Tequilla said:Exactly ...
And the other dirty secret is that 2 of LBJ's 3 titles required all the bounces in the world going in his favor
If he had 1 title instead of 3 there's ZERO discussion of him being anywhere near Jordan ok the all time list
They just aren't enough. -
At the highest levels how you win your titles is a factor ...
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Says the guy sucking Durant's dick for winning a title with a team that won 73 games before he got there.Tequilla said:At the highest levels how you win your titles is a factor ...
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We don't have to have this discussion in hockey.
1. Gretzky
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Stop with the AuburnDawg nonsense. Ravenna wants to give him another ring in 2015 because Kyrie and Love were hurt, you want to take two rings away from him.Tequilla said:Exactly ...
And the other dirty secret is that 2 of LBJ's 3 titles required all the bounces in the world going in his favor
If he had 1 title instead of 3 there's ZERO discussion of him being anywhere near Jordan ok the all time list
As Boobs said, he's earned three. He's a three time Finals MVP and honestly should be four time (he was the MVP in 2015 too). Only MJ has more. Magic and Shaq also have three. (Yes Russell would have more if it was around in his era.)
He's a four time NBA MVP.
Only MJ, Kareem, and Russell have more MVP awards.
Only Russell and his teammates been to more consecutive NBA Finals and they played in an era with less than half the teams there are now .
He's the best two way regular season player of all time, and the best playoff player of all time for the first 47 minutes.
That last minute keeps him from the top, but puts him above everyone else IMO.
Sincerely,
Lifelong LeBron Hater. -
Flagged for subjective awards bullshit.dnc said:
Stop with the AuburnDawg nonsense. Ravenna wants to give him another ring in 2015 because Kyrie and Love were hurt, you want to take two rings away from him.Tequilla said:Exactly ...
And the other dirty secret is that 2 of LBJ's 3 titles required all the bounces in the world going in his favor
If he had 1 title instead of 3 there's ZERO discussion of him being anywhere near Jordan ok the all time list
As Boobs said, he's earned three. He's a three time Finals MVP and honestly should be four time (he was the MVP in 2015 too). Only MJ has more. Magic and Shaq also have three. (Yes Russell would have more if it was around in his era.)
He's a four time NBA MVP.
Only MJ, Kareem, and Russell have more MVP awards.
Only Russell and his teammates been to more consecutive NBA Finals and they played in an era with less than half the teams there are now .
He's the best two way regular season player of all time, and the best playoff player of all time for the first 47 minutes.
That last minute keeps him from the top, but puts him above everyone else IMO.
Sincerely,
Lifelong LeBron Hater. -
Says the guy that started a thread about subjective greatest of all time rankings.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Flagged for subjective awards bullshit.dnc said:
Stop with the AuburnDawg nonsense. Ravenna wants to give him another ring in 2015 because Kyrie and Love were hurt, you want to take two rings away from him.Tequilla said:Exactly ...
And the other dirty secret is that 2 of LBJ's 3 titles required all the bounces in the world going in his favor
If he had 1 title instead of 3 there's ZERO discussion of him being anywhere near Jordan ok the all time list
As Boobs said, he's earned three. He's a three time Finals MVP and honestly should be four time (he was the MVP in 2015 too). Only MJ has more. Magic and Shaq also have three. (Yes Russell would have more if it was around in his era.)
He's a four time NBA MVP.
Only MJ, Kareem, and Russell have more MVP awards.
Only Russell and his teammates been to more consecutive NBA Finals and they played in an era with less than half the teams there are now .
He's the best two way regular season player of all time, and the best playoff player of all time for the first 47 minutes.
That last minute keeps him from the top, but puts him above everyone else IMO.
Sincerely,
Lifelong LeBron Hater. -
I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
You want to bash the Doctor and we're going to throw down bitchTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
I loved him as a player. But calling the 83 Sixers the best single season team ever is ridiculous. This year's Warriors were 2 games better in the regular season and are 15-0 in the playoffs (the Sixers went 12-1).RaceBannon said:
You want to bash the Doctor and we're going to throw down bitchTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
The Warriors are 3-0 in the playoffs.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I loved him as a player. But calling the 83 Sixers the best single season team ever is ridiculous. This year's Warriors were 2 games better in the regular season and are 15-0 in the playoffs (the Sixers went 12-1).RaceBannon said:
You want to bash the Doctor and we're going to throw down bitchTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
Fair. The Sixers went 4-0 in their playoffs. The Knicks and Bucks were terribad that year.allpurpleallgold said:
The Warriors are 3-0 in the playoffs.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I loved him as a player. But calling the 83 Sixers the best single season team ever is ridiculous. This year's Warriors were 2 games better in the regular season and are 15-0 in the playoffs (the Sixers went 12-1).RaceBannon said:
You want to bash the Doctor and we're going to throw down bitchTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
I think there's an outside chance we get here again very quickly with Kawhi. But if it's not him there's no one on the horizon.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion. -
Definitely not if Steph and KD don't break up real soon.allpurpleallgold said:
I think there's an outside chance we get here again very quickly with Kawhi. But if it's not him there's no one on the horizon.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion.
I think like I said with Curry last year Kawhi's first few years were so relatively unimpressive that it's going to make it tough for him to truly get in the discussion for anything above best peak. But if the Spurs add Paul and can knock off the Warriors, I agree KL could work into the discussion for that at least. -
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Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion.
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He'd have to beat Durant and Curry on his way to a title, yes. He does that and his resume then has Lebron and those two on it. He'd also only be hitting his prime at that point, being only 25 now. He beats GS when he's 27 and he sets himself up to rip off 3 or 4 titles in his prime and he's right there.
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The old man in me is still not a Kawai guy. To be fair I hardly ever watch the Spurs. Would have been interesting if he hadn't got hurt this year. Maybe.allpurpleallgold said:
I think there's an outside chance we get here again very quickly with Kawhi. But if it's not him there's no one on the horizon.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion.
If Lebron were closing out this series to go 6-2 in Finals it would have been a real debate. You could argue away the 07 and Hickory High losses. You can never get rid of Dallas. -
Only thing I've said about Durant is that there's a legit conversation of him being the best player in the game ...allpurpleallgold said:
Says the guy sucking Durant's dick for winning a title with a team that won 73 games before he got there.Tequilla said:At the highest levels how you win your titles is a factor ...
He's got a long way to go to get to Top 5-10 player of all time status -
Bobby OrrPurpleJ said:We don't have to have this discussion in hockey.
1. Gretzky
2. Everybody else -
The 83 Sixers are on the list for best single season team ever ...TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I loved him as a player. But calling the 83 Sixers the best single season team ever is ridiculous. This year's Warriors were 2 games better in the regular season and are 15-0 in the playoffs (the Sixers went 12-1).RaceBannon said:
You want to bash the Doctor and we're going to throw down bitchTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion.
Dr J should be thanking Moses Malone (RIP) every single day for his NBA title -
You're such a fucking doog it pours out of every postTequilla said:
The 83 Sixers are on the list for best single season team ever ...TierbsHsotBoobs said:
I loved him as a player. But calling the 83 Sixers the best single season team ever is ridiculous. This year's Warriors were 2 games better in the regular season and are 15-0 in the playoffs (the Sixers went 12-1).RaceBannon said:
You want to bash the Doctor and we're going to throw down bitchTierbsHsotBoobs said:
Dr J is McCain's supplier.RaceBannon said:I may have said Lebron is better than Jordan - I say a lot of shit. But he isn't and he never really was that close. Is he #2? Who knows, he is in the top 5 discussion, its been a blast the last 7 years, and we won't see this again for a while. It was about 10 years between Jordan's last finals and Lebron's first.
My man Dr J says the 83 Sixers are the best single season team and LBJ is the best player he has ever seen.
That's called being in the discussion.
Dr J should be thanking Moses Malone (RIP) every single day for his NBA title -
People forgot Kawhi was pink socking the Warriors by himself before ZaZa made the best play of his career.
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Easily #2. I don't think some realize how good you have to be to put up a line like 39-11-9 and still be criticized.
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So your argument is looking at stats ...RoadDawg55 said:Easily #2. I don't think some realize how good you have to be to put up a line like 31-11-9 and still be criticized.
If that was the case then how is anybody but Wilt #1? -
Because I said so.Tequilla said:
So your argument is looking at stats ...RoadDawg55 said:Easily #2. I don't think some realize how good you have to be to put up a line like 31-11-9 and still be criticized.
If that was the case then how is anybody but Wilt #1? -
But D-a-a-a-a-d....my other Dad said I couldRoadDawg55 said:
Because I said so.Tequilla said:
So your argument is looking at stats ...RoadDawg55 said:Easily #2. I don't think some realize how good you have to be to put up a line like 31-11-9 and still be criticized.
If that was the case then how is anybody but Wilt #1? -
It's gotten to a point where a superstar has a positive expected value by foregoing a max contract, winning, and signing ridiculous endorsements. I don't really see that changing unless they owners start allocating a much larger percentage of revenue to player contracts (lol).
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1. GretzkyPurpleJ said:We don't have to have this discussion in hockey.
1. Gretzky
2. Everybody else
2. Messier
3. Everybody else.
I know, Wayne still has double the points, but Messier is the best captain ever and #2 in points.
