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It's a voluntary agreement where each country defines how it can do its part to affect climate change.
There was no downside to being in the agreement, but Trump gonna Trump. -
https://www.cato.org/blog/statement-us-withdraw-paris-climate-treaty
The Paris climate treaty is climatically insignificant. EPA’s own models show it would only lower global warming by an inconsequential two-tenths of a degree Celsius by 2100. The cost to the U.S. – in the form of required payments of $100 billion per year to the developing world – is too great for the inconsequential results. These very real expenses will consume money that could be used by the private sector to fund innovative new technologies that are economically sound and can power our society with little pollution.
Because of our private investments in technological innovation, America leads the world in reducing carbon dioxide emissions from power plants. We did that without Paris, and we will continue our exemplary leadership without it. -
The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.
The CATO Institute should be better than that. -
Not anymore.TierbsHsotBoobs said:The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.
The CATO Institute should be better than that. -
What do Donald Trump, Daniel Ortega, and Bashar Al-Assad have in common?
The only three global leaders who are not signatories to the Paris Agreement.
Even Kim Jong Un is. -
We never were. We've paid $1 billion of a $3 billion pledge.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Not anymore.TierbsHsotBoobs said:The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.
The CATO Institute should be better than that.
Feel free to find a legitimate news source that says otherwise.
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If we're bashing Bashar Al-Assad then I'm out.
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We shouldn't be surrendering our sovereignty.
Pulling out of the Paris surrender agreement helps Donald Trump win reelection in the United States. -
It basically comes down to this: undoing everything Obama did during his tenure is bound to be good for the US.
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Sounds like he withdrew from a meaningless paper policy. If Kim jong Un is a part of it then what good is it really?
And LOL about China seizing the opportunity to become a world leader on climate change.
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There's nothing in the Paris agreement that requires any surrender of sovereignty whatsoever.doogie said:We shouldn't be surrendering our sovereignty.
Pulling out of the Paris surrender agreement helps Donald Trump win reelection in the United States.
You guys can actually read the agreement. I'll help:
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TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.
The CATO Institute should be better than that.
Point boobs. Cato writerwas imprecise in his languagelacked technical writing gifts. The $100 billion annual is 'collective' number.If he follows through, that will threaten a collective pledge by rich nations in Paris to raise climate finance from both public and private sources from a combined $100 billion a year promised for 2020.
This speaks volumes:"My only worry is the money," said Tosi Mpanu Mpanu of Democratic Republic of Congo, who heads a group of the 48 least developed nations. "It's worrying when you know that Trump is a climate change skeptic," he told Reuters.
FYFMFE for spending 10 minutes researching that Illuminati shit. -
This is a good take. The US has already been reducing emissions as it is. The free market is likely going to do 80% of what the Paris agreement would have done.Doogles said:Sounds like he withdrew from a meaningless paper policy. If Kim jong Un is a part of it then what good is it really?
And LOL about China seizing the opportunity to become a world leader on climate change.
Non-issue either way. It won't be chinteresting.
Trump's just fucking around to claim bullshit victories that have no meaningful value. See the party after the House passed the AHCA for further details. -
It doesn't seem like it matters either way as Cities/States are free to hold themselves to the Paris standards. But, if there is no real cost to the US, distancing ourselves from the rest of the civilized world is FS.
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Flagged for expecting us to actually read up on the subject we're talking about.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
There's nothing in the Paris agreement that requires any surrender of sovereignty whatsoever.doogie said:We shouldn't be surrendering our sovereignty.
Pulling out of the Paris surrender agreement helps Donald Trump win reelection in the United States.
You guys can actually read the agreement. I'll help:
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf -
Trump gonna Trump.WilburHooksHands said:It doesn't seem like it matters either way as Cities/States are free to hold themselves to the Paris standards. But, if there is no real cost to the US, distancing ourselves from the rest of the civilized world is FS.
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TierbsHsotBoobs said:
This is a good take. The US has already been reducing emissions as it is. The free market is likely going to do 80% of what the Paris agreement would have done.Doogles said:Sounds like he withdrew from a meaningless paper policy. If Kim jong Un is a part of it then what good is it really?
And LOL about China seizing the opportunity to become a world leader on climate change.
Non-issue either way. It won't be chinteresting.
Trump's just politicking. -
I hate it when you are right.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Flagged for expecting us to actually read up on the subject we're talking about.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
There's nothing in the Paris agreement that requires any surrender of sovereignty whatsoever.doogie said:We shouldn't be surrendering our sovereignty.
Pulling out of the Paris surrender agreement helps Donald Trump win reelection in the United States.
You guys can actually read the agreement. I'll help:
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf -
He could have warned us during the campaign that he would do this
Cry some more about a worthless piece of shit hondo accord.
Next time take it to Congress -
Who care's, global warming is a Chinese conspiracy.
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The more it is argued that this Paris agreement thing didn't really do anything, the more it diminishes any argument in favor of or against it.
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I am for the environment but against Accords, and all other Honda's for that matter.
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Is climate change still a thing? Who fucking cares?
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We always loved to beat the shit out of Cato in the think tank softball league. Those people were absolute wankers, as were the dolts from AEI.
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That sounds like the worst softball league of all time.BearsWiin said:We always loved to beat the shit out of Cato in the think tank softball league. Those people were absolute wankers, as were the dolts from AEI.
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Agree from a policy standpoint, but its diplomatically where you are a laughing stock. The whole fucking world is trolling us now.Fenderbender123 said:The more it is argued that this Paris agreement thing didn't really do anything, the more it diminishes any argument in favor of or against it.
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Yet somehow I just don't give a fuck about what some pussy in France thinks.WilburHooksHands said:
Agree from a policy standpoint, but its diplomatically where you are a laughing stock. The whole fucking world is trolling us now.Fenderbender123 said:The more it is argued that this Paris agreement thing didn't really do anything, the more it diminishes any argument in favor of or against it.
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TUFF.Pitchfork51 said:
Yet somehow I just don't give a fuck about what some pussy in France thinks.WilburHooksHands said:
Agree from a policy standpoint, but its diplomatically where you are a laughing stock. The whole fucking world is trolling us now.Fenderbender123 said:The more it is argued that this Paris agreement thing didn't really do anything, the more it diminishes any argument in favor of or against it.
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It's largely symbolic but it's still a big middle finger to science. Trump was already rolling back the Clean Power Plan which kind of served as the backbone for the US hitting its targets. US could still hit its targets regardless just because the industry has been shifting from coal to gas and investing pretty heavily in renewables somewhat naturally.
In my mind there isn't a huge upside to withdrawing - slightly cheaper energy prices and a small bit of tax savings? Basically status quo. The problem is that the energy industry is ripe for a major disruption if large scale battery storage gets figured out. Lots of investment needed by government to overhaul infrastructure so this isn't something that private industry can do all on its own. The countries on the front end of the transition, whenever it happens, will reap the most benefit.
Trump has so far pulled out of Paris Accord and proposed big cuts to DOE innovation programs. If i was in the bidness of renewables and battery storage then i might think about setting up shop in a more hospitable country. -
We'll never win over North Korea now
The world wide disappointment is because without Uncle Sugar the house of cards collapses.
Follow the money
