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WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
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I don't know much about the Paris agreement. Can anyone explain to me why this is detrimental to US economic interests OTHER than the slush fund? Why would it costs jobs, as some are saying?
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    https://www.cato.org/blog/statement-us-withdraw-paris-climate-treaty
    The Paris climate treaty is climatically insignificant. EPA’s own models show it would only lower global warming by an inconsequential two-tenths of a degree Celsius by 2100. The cost to the U.S. – in the form of required payments of $100 billion per year to the developing world – is too great for the inconsequential results. These very real expenses will consume money that could be used by the private sector to fund innovative new technologies that are economically sound and can power our society with little pollution.

    Because of our private investments in technological innovation, America leads the world in reducing carbon dioxide emissions from power plants. We did that without Paris, and we will continue our exemplary leadership without it.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.

    The CATO Institute should be better than that.
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  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    What do Donald Trump, Daniel Ortega, and Bashar Al-Assad have in common?

    The only three global leaders who are not signatories to the Paris Agreement.

    Even Kim Jong Un is.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    GrundleStiltzkin said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.

    The CATO Institute should be better than that.

    Not anymore.
    We never were. We've paid $1 billion of a $3 billion pledge.

    Feel free to find a legitimate news source that says otherwise.

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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    If we're bashing Bashar Al-Assad then I'm out.
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  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    We shouldn't be surrendering our sovereignty.

    Pulling out of the Paris surrender agreement helps Donald Trump win reelection in the United States.
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  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    It basically comes down to this: undoing everything Obama did during his tenure is bound to be good for the US.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    doogie said:

    We shouldn't be surrendering our sovereignty.

    Pulling out of the Paris surrender agreement helps Donald Trump win reelection in the United States.

    There's nothing in the Paris agreement that requires any surrender of sovereignty whatsoever.

    You guys can actually read the agreement. I'll help:

    http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2017
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    The US isn't required to pay $100 billion per year.

    The CATO Institute should be better than that.



    Point boobs. Cato writer was imprecise in his language lacked technical writing gifts. The $100 billion annual is 'collective' number.
    If he follows through, that will threaten a collective pledge by rich nations in Paris to raise climate finance from both public and private sources from a combined $100 billion a year promised for 2020.
    This speaks volumes:
    "My only worry is the money," said Tosi Mpanu Mpanu of Democratic Republic of Congo, who heads a group of the 48 least developed nations. "It's worrying when you know that Trump is a climate change skeptic," he told Reuters.



    FYFMFE for spending 10 minutes researching that Illuminati shit.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    WilburHooksHands said:

    It doesn't seem like it matters either way as Cities/States are free to hold themselves to the Paris standards. But, if there is no real cost to the US, distancing ourselves from the rest of the civilized world is FS.

    Trump gonna Trump.
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  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Doogles said:

    Sounds like he withdrew from a meaningless paper policy. If Kim jong Un is a part of it then what good is it really?

    And LOL about China seizing the opportunity to become a world leader on climate change.

    Non-issue either way. It won't be chinteresting.

    This is a good take. The US has already been reducing emissions as it is. The free market is likely going to do 80% of what the Paris agreement would have done.

    Trump's just politicking.
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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,167 Founders Club
    He could have warned us during the campaign that he would do this

    Cry some more about a worthless piece of shit hondo accord.

    Next time take it to Congress
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  • UWhuskytskeetUWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113
    Who care's, global warming is a Chinese conspiracy.
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