Horace "Bru" McCoy, 2019 5* OLB/WR, Santa Ana (Mater Dei), CA (LOL)

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Crawfish said:

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Thebourbinator said:

There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

This bored is Some poasters are bi-polar. When we get good news (Buelow makes it official!) we talk about the potentially greatest UW class of all time. When we get bad news ("The storm is coming" never materialized) we talk about how we'll never sign a decent BUCK, ever.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Things haven't changed with me. I said this would be a monster class. It's going to be. My only concern now is that we whiff on Buck again like last year.

This whole situation with the BUCK position reminds me when HH was worried about the lack of recruiting DTs over the pass couple of years.

In the end, Gaines decided to stay an extra year and the DT recruiting picked up and HH is not worried anymore.

I have a feeling the BUCK situation will resolve itself in time.

The BUCK issues are a much longer trend than DT was.

I don't think this is an overreaction like the DT panic was.

I have full confidence Ariel Ngata is going to become a stud. He's already showing flashes of what he can do.

And if he gets injured? Who else is on the roster that you have "full confidence to become a stud"? We are past the point where having 1 deep at a position is "good enough".

We're also talking recruiting so fast forward 2-3 years. If Ngata is a stud he may be gone. Who else do we have to replace him?

Crawfish

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There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

This bored is Some poasters are bi-polar. When we get good news (Buelow makes it official!) we talk about the potentially greatest UW class of all time. When we get bad news ("The storm is coming" never materialized) we talk about how we'll never sign a decent BUCK, ever.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Things haven't changed with me. I said this would be a monster class. It's going to be. My only concern now is that we whiff on Buck again like last year.

This whole situation with the BUCK position reminds me when HH was worried about the lack of recruiting DTs over the pass couple of years.

In the end, Gaines decided to stay an extra year and the DT recruiting picked up and HH is not worried anymore.

I have a feeling the BUCK situation will resolve itself in time.

The BUCK issues are a much longer trend than DT was.

I don't think this is an overreaction like the DT panic was.

I have full confidence Ariel Ngata is going to become a stud. He's already showing flashes of what he can do.

And if he gets injured? Who else is on the roster that you have "full confidence to become a stud"? We are past the point where having 1 deep at a position is "good enough".

We're also talking recruiting so fast forward 2-3 years. If Ngata is a stud he may be gone. Who else do we have to replace him?

Zion Tupuola-Fetui. Over the summer there was a couple work out clips with Tracy Ford and he looks good.

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Crawfish said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Crawfish said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Crawfish said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Thebourbinator said:

There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

This bored is Some poasters are bi-polar. When we get good news (Buelow makes it official!) we talk about the potentially greatest UW class of all time. When we get bad news ("The storm is coming" never materialized) we talk about how we'll never sign a decent BUCK, ever.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Things haven't changed with me. I said this would be a monster class. It's going to be. My only concern now is that we whiff on Buck again like last year.

This whole situation with the BUCK position reminds me when HH was worried about the lack of recruiting DTs over the pass couple of years.

In the end, Gaines decided to stay an extra year and the DT recruiting picked up and HH is not worried anymore.

I have a feeling the BUCK situation will resolve itself in time.

The BUCK issues are a much longer trend than DT was.

I don't think this is an overreaction like the DT panic was.

I have full confidence Ariel Ngata is going to become a stud. He's already showing flashes of what he can do.

And if he gets injured? Who else is on the roster that you have "full confidence to become a stud"? We are past the point where having 1 deep at a position is "good enough".

We're also talking recruiting so fast forward 2-3 years. If Ngata is a stud he may be gone. Who else do we have to replace him?

Zion Tupuola-Fetui. Over the summer there was a couple work out clips with Tracy Ford and he looks good.

He's going to be a DT big body power type with hand in the grass, not a Ngata stand up speed off the edge type. That's what I see anyways. He'll be great but he's not what we are talking about for Buck.

FireCohen

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Crawfish said:

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HillsboroDuck said:

Crawfish said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Thebourbinator said:

There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

This bored is Some poasters are bi-polar. When we get good news (Buelow makes it official!) we talk about the potentially greatest UW class of all time. When we get bad news ("The storm is coming" never materialized) we talk about how we'll never sign a decent BUCK, ever.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Things haven't changed with me. I said this would be a monster class. It's going to be. My only concern now is that we whiff on Buck again like last year.

This whole situation with the BUCK position reminds me when HH was worried about the lack of recruiting DTs over the pass couple of years.

In the end, Gaines decided to stay an extra year and the DT recruiting picked up and HH is not worried anymore.

I have a feeling the BUCK situation will resolve itself in time.

The BUCK issues are a much longer trend than DT was.

I don't think this is an overreaction like the DT panic was.

I have full confidence Ariel Ngata is going to become a stud. He's already showing flashes of what he can do.

And if he gets injured? Who else is on the roster that you have "full confidence to become a stud"? We are past the point where having 1 deep at a position is "good enough".

We're also talking recruiting so fast forward 2-3 years. If Ngata is a stud he may be gone. Who else do we have to replace him?

Zion Tupuola-Fetui. Over the summer there was a couple work out clips with Tracy Ford and he looks good.

He's going to be a DT big body power type with hand in the grass, not a Ngata stand up speed off the edge type. That's what I see anyways. He'll be great but he's not what we are talking about for Buck.

He looks decent moving in space based on his film, given how bad buck recruiting has been I try him at buck first. He is a project anyways, he would take 2-3 years to develop anyways

AIRWOLF

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Crawfish said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Crawfish said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Thebourbinator said:

There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

This bored is Some poasters are bi-polar. When we get good news (Buelow makes it official!) we talk about the potentially greatest UW class of all time. When we get bad news ("The storm is coming" never materialized) we talk about how we'll never sign a decent BUCK, ever.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Things haven't changed with me. I said this would be a monster class. It's going to be. My only concern now is that we whiff on Buck again like last year.

This whole situation with the BUCK position reminds me when HH was worried about the lack of recruiting DTs over the pass couple of years.

In the end, Gaines decided to stay an extra year and the DT recruiting picked up and HH is not worried anymore.

I have a feeling the BUCK situation will resolve itself in time.

The BUCK issues are a much longer trend than DT was.

I don't think this is an overreaction like the DT panic was.

I have full confidence Ariel Ngata is going to become a stud. He's already showing flashes of what he can do.

And if he gets injured? Who else is on the roster that you have "full confidence to become a stud"? We are past the point where having 1 deep at a position is "good enough".

We're also talking recruiting so fast forward 2-3 years. If Ngata is a stud he may be gone. Who else do we have to replace him?

One is not enough. And Tyron, in his brief appearances, looks amazing. But two isn't enough either.

To be where we want to be, they need to be getting a minimum three edge pass rushing types with big upside every two years and no less than one a year. Some will outgrow the position, some will end up being more traditional outside LB types, and some will just not pan out.

I get excited about individual players, but the goal is to be at a place where the success of a team or unit doesn't depend on a single guy developing in a best-case-scenario way.

Passion

HillsboroDuck said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

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WeakarmCobra said:

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Thebourbinator said:

There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

We have 3 recruiters that fuck on major level. Unfortunately they don’t recruit WR, LB

If you had to pick what positions you wanted your best recruiters I think we have them at 4 of the 5 most important spots. You'd probably rank them something like this (with 2-4 being somewhat interchangeable).

QB
DL
OL
Edge
DB

WR, ILB, RB and TE would all come after those 4, IMO.

We don’t have to choose. Stop being a fucking Doog.

No one is arguing we shouldn't get more, I was specifically addressing WAC's point that we have 3 recruiters who fuck (actually 4) but "unfortunately they aren't at WR or LB". Given that amount, we have them where we want them. Of course I'd like more recruiters who fuck.

Try to read for context once in your life instead of just jumping to canned DDY rant. kthxbye.

DL is the most important (across all 3 or 4 positions). Give me a stellar defensive line and a serviceable QB who doesn't do stupid shit.

CuntWaffle

As long as get a great BUCK in next years recruiting class then this one doesn't matter.

Neighbor2972

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Crawfish said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Crawfish said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Crawfish said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

HillsboroDuck said:

Thebourbinator said:

There’s a lot of doom and gloom around here considering HH never thought Tuitele would come to UW, or we? would get serious consideration from McCoy or To’oto’o, so take a minute and remember that we? signed the best DT in Cali last year, have a commitment from 3/4 of the best DT this year (again one being the best in Cali, and one the best player in Hawaii,) we? have the most outrageous DB room in the country, the OL recruiting took off, and we? are still in play on some of the top players in the west who are all planning on committing later in the season. We? will never sign a buck, but in all seriousness if we? land a surprise like Latu or To’oto’on it wouldn’t even be that much of a shock considering how strong the class is, and how we? finished last years recruiting cycle. At this point in time, I’m more concerned with the product on the field, because that will sell the last few holdouts better than being better salesman than Oregon.

This bored is Some poasters are bi-polar. When we get good news (Buelow makes it official!) we talk about the potentially greatest UW class of all time. When we get bad news ("The storm is coming" never materialized) we talk about how we'll never sign a decent BUCK, ever.

Later. Rinse. Repeat.

Things haven't changed with me. I said this would be a monster class. It's going to be. My only concern now is that we whiff on Buck again like last year.

This whole situation with the BUCK position reminds me when HH was worried about the lack of recruiting DTs over the pass couple of years.

In the end, Gaines decided to stay an extra year and the DT recruiting picked up and HH is not worried anymore.

I have a feeling the BUCK situation will resolve itself in time.

The BUCK issues are a much longer trend than DT was.

I don't think this is an overreaction like the DT panic was.

I have full confidence Ariel Ngata is going to become a stud. He's already showing flashes of what he can do.

And if he gets injured? Who else is on the roster that you have "full confidence to become a stud"? We are past the point where having 1 deep at a position is "good enough".

We're also talking recruiting so fast forward 2-3 years. If Ngata is a stud he may be gone. Who else do we have to replace him?

Zion Tupuola-Fetui. Over the summer there was a couple work out clips with Tracy Ford and he looks good.

He's going to be a DT big body power type with hand in the grass, not a Ngata stand up speed off the edge type. That's what I see anyways. He'll be great but he's not what we are talking about for Buck.

Yeah he's probably not going to be a 3rd down buck, but he could easily be a base OLB. String is a base sam half the time, we can't play everyone at DT.

chuck

This conversation is aids. Pointing to a single, legit edge guy (Ngata) as evidence that we're ok at buck is retarded especially given that he's only flashed potential so far. Tryon passes underwear Olympics inspection but only plays in garbage time and hasn't done shit. Benning is a run stuffing DE not an edge rusher. Nobody else on the roster even warrants mention. Yeah it's going fine. Two guys that might be good should fix everything.

Interior DL recruiting gave us a nice class of redshirts this year. Next year's will be even more impressive but we'll be counting on the RS freshmen to comprise the entire rotation. Meanwhile we're playing this year with one legit DT on the roster with a shrunken group of defensive ends rotating inforand next to him. Yeah, DT recruiting has been stellar. So stellar that we're still two seasons away from feeling good about the depth chart.

Doogs never understand the concept of development timelines or the need for depth. One nice looking recruit doesn't solve problems at a position for a couple of years at best and probably never given the likelihood of injury and need to rotate players. A great, well rounded class of interior DL like last year's doesn't solve the problem of a bare cupboard for at least two years.

Shitty DL recruiting for two cycles precludes UW from being a national contender next year. Continued shitty recruiting at all LB positions, especially pass rush specialists, will keep hampering us for at least three more years.

Dennis_DeYoung

chuck said:

This conversation is aids. Pointing to a single, legit edge guy (Ngata) as evidence that we're ok at buck is retarded especially given that he's only flashed potential so far. Tryon passes underwear Olympics inspection but only plays in garbage time and hasn't done shit. Benning is a run stuffing DE not an edge rusher. Nobody else on the roster even warrants mention. Yeah it's going fine. Two guys that might be good should fix everything.

Interior DL recruiting gave us a nice class of redshirts this year. Next year's will be even more impressive but we'll be counting on the RS freshmen to comprise the entire rotation. Meanwhile we're playing this year with one legit DT on the roster with a shrunken group of defensive ends rotating inforand next to him. Yeah, DT recruiting has been stellar. So stellar that we're still two seasons away from feeling good about the depth chart.

Doogs never understand the concept of development timelines or the need for depth. One nice looking recruit doesn't solve problems at a position for a couple of years at best and probably never given the likelihood of injury and need to rotate players. A great, well rounded class of interior DL like last year's doesn't solve the problem of a bare cupboard for at least two years.

Shitty DL recruiting for two cycles precludes UW from being a national contender next year. Continued shitty recruiting at all LB positions, especially pass rush specialists, will keep hampering us for at least three more years.

I just read on dawgman that we aren't really doing anything wrong and that maybe we just don't really think edge rushers are a priority.

How fucking dumb do you have to be to be like 'whatever negative thing is happening, just explain it as if people want it to happen in order to preserve slavish devotion to praising the coaches under any circumstances'?

Jesus fucking Christ.

It's like looking at my crippled ass wheeling around and someone saying 'I guess he didn't want to walk, so he figured out how to get a spinal cord injury! I don't think anything necessarily wrong happened, he just wanted some relief for his feet, probably is the way I read it.'

No wonder our country is completely fucked.