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$15 an hour unemployment will crater employment!!!

2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
This dude is awesome. Still fighting the good fight, in the face of being ridiculously wrong.



Sure, it's lovely that unemployment in Seattle dips under 3%. But an attempt to tie that drop in the unemployment rate to the minimum wage isn't going to work. For we can as easily note that the unemployment rate has dropped everywhere in the US over this same time period and the minimum wage hasn't risen everywhere over that time period. We've not even got a consistent correlation between minimum wages and unemployment that is.

Worth noting what my original prediction was. Specifically I pointed out that it would not lead to some howling wasteland where once an economy stood. Rather, that raising the price of low end labour would lead to less low end labour being employed.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2017/04/05/seattles-2-9-unemployment-rate-tells-us-nothing-about-the-effects-of-seattles-minimum-wage-rise/#1b18da4f68b8

But back in 2014....

It's not difficult to outline some of the effect that this new $15 an hour minimum wage in Seattle is going to have. And I, for one, would rather hope that people are starting to study that labour market right now, so we can get a good idea of what it is like before that wage comes in. And then we can go back when it's fully implemented and see what the effects have been. For my prediction is that the effects are not going to be good and it would be rather useful in future to have the evidence that large rises in the minimum wage really aren't a good thing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/06/03/we-can-predict-the-effects-of-seattles-15-an-hour-minimum-wage/#1accb1bf4064
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,862 Standard Supporter
    PurpleJ said:

    I'm glad you got a raise. Just don't come crying to me when you figure out that you haven't got anymore purchasing power than you did before.

    Don't cry when they invent the robot french fry maker either!
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I'm glad you got a raise. Just don't come crying to me when you figure out that you haven't got anymore purchasing power than you did before.

    Don't cry when they invent the robot freeme fry maker either!
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    I'm glad you got a raise. Just don't come crying to me when you figure out that you haven't got anymore purchasing power than you did before.

    Keep working that side hustle and 70 hours a week to have a full 3 months of bills in the bank.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I'm glad you got a raise. Just don't come crying to me when you figure out that you haven't got anymore purchasing power than you did before.

    Keep working that side hustle and 70 hours a week to have a full 3 months of bills in the bank.
    Thanks bro!

    Grats on the big raise!

    Big feast at Sizzler tonight?
    Taco Bell. Dumbass.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    Hondo has Shitpoasted hard.


    He deserves it.


    And what does this have to do with the price of Pot in Eastern Montana anyway?
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    Hondo has Shitpoasted hard.


    He deserves it.


    And what does this have to do with the price of Pot in Eastern Montana anyway?

    Don't worry, this guy is on it.
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  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    2001400ex said:

    PurpleJ said:

    I'm glad you got a raise. Just don't come crying to me when you figure out that you haven't got anymore purchasing power than you did before.

    Keep working that side hustle and 70 hours a week to have a full 3 months of bills in the bank.
    Thanks bro!

    Grats on the big raise!

    Big feast at Sizzler tonight?
    Taco Bell. Dumbass.
    Bless your heart!
  • AlexisAlexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,142 Swaye's Wigwam

    salemcoog said:

    Hondo has Shitpoasted hard.


    He deserves it.


    And what does this have to do with the price of Pot in Eastern Montana anyway?

    Don't worry, this guy is on it.
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    Swede, Swede, Swede, Swede!
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    A $15 minimum wage is fine. We were already heading towards complete corporate takeovers at near light speed. The $15 minimum wage will just stop what was prolonging the magic.

    The real and only important question is what is the plan for those of us that make over minimum wage? If they raise minimum wage $7 an hour here then I am taking a $7 an hour pay cut.

    Raising the minimum wage doesn't actually make the poor have more money because labor increase is passed on to consumers. It's just a nice way for the government to raise taxes.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    Just be sure to save a few dollars a week to home ownership​ in Seattle.

    Before you know it you can buy a house in 500 years.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    jecornel said:

    Just be sure to save a few dollars a week to home ownership​ in Seattle.

    Before you know it you can buy a house in 500 years.

    I hate that I laughed at this.
  • priapismpriapism Member Posts: 2,124
    Introducing Cafe X:

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  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    priapism said:

    Introducing Cafe X:

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    In my very brief stint as a civilian I was a GM at McDonald's for a very close friend's family. They had 15 restaurants. They profited roughly $300k a week.

    They almost turned in their guns during the mandatory McCafe upgrade. It was $125k per store for just coffee equipment.

    That totally automated system would cost more than a franchise, which was $144k cash at that time or roughly $1.2 million to have a new store built that the company still owned, of course.

    Corporate fast food shops might go automated, but there is ZERO chance franchisees go along with it. Labor is only 20% and you hire a bunch of turds because it is minimum wage, no benefits, no vacation, etc. They will just adopt the Euro model of less workers, a livable wage, benefits, vacation, etc.

    Regular people will own battleships before automated fast food joints are the norm.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    Mosster47 said:

    priapism said:

    Introducing Cafe X:

    image

    In my very brief stint as a civilian I was a GM at McDonald's for a very close friend's family. They had 15 restaurants. They profited roughly $300k a week.

    They almost turned in their guns during the mandatory McCafe upgrade. It was $125k per store for just coffee equipment.

    That totally automated system would cost more than a franchise, which was $144k cash at that time or roughly $1.2 million to have a new store built that the company still owned, of course.

    Corporate fast food shops might go automated, but there is ZERO chance franchisees go along with it. Labor is only 20% and you hire a bunch of turds because it is minimum wage, no benefits, no vacation, etc. They will just adopt the Euro model of less workers, a livable wage, benefits, vacation, etc.

    Regular people will own battleships before automated fast food joints are the norm.
    But still
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    Does your close fren have any hot daughters? Looking to marry rich and retire. TIA.
  • Mosster47Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Black guy, white woman. Black guy's brother was a ball player, died young, left money to him. They act like they earned it though.

    One gay halfrican son. I guess you have a shot still...
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,257 Founders Club
    edited April 2017
    Mosster47 said:

    Black guy, white woman. Black guy's brother was a ball player, died young, left money to him. They act like they earned it though.

    One gay halfrican son. I guess you have a shot still...

    Even better!

    Is his name @Dennis_DeYoung by chance?
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