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Joe Rogan pod w/Lawrence Krauss

allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
Is one of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Topics include, black holes, multiverse, AI killing us and whether or not that would actually be a good thing. It gave me a brain boner, highly recommend.

They were talking about conspiracy theories and Krauss brought up the human need to blame others. How the world is an unfair place and bad things happen and how it's easier to blame someone for this. He brought up the Salem Witch Trails as an example. These people had their crops die and rather than thinking a bad thing happened to them it was easier to blame someone for doing a bad thing to them. And I think I had an epiphany.

Isn't this describing the whole social justice movement? The world is an unfair place where bad things happen and these people are looking for someone to blame. It's your white privilege, it's misogyny, it's always someone else doing the bad things to them when in reality it's just the world.

Thankfully we've advanced to the point where we don't hang and stone people to death but this is the Salem Witch Trails right? I don't know it makes sense to me but you guys can tell me if I'm being an idiot.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,430
    2001400ex said:

    Disagree

    You would...
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    Is one of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Topics include, black holes, multiverse, AI killing us and whether or not that would actually be a good thing. It gave me a brain boner, highly recommend.

    They were talking about conspiracy theories and Krauss brought up the human need to blame others. How the world is an unfair place and bad things happen and how it's easier to blame someone for this. He brought up the Salem Witch Trails as an example. These people had their crops die and rather than thinking a bad thing happened to them it was easier to blame someone for doing a bad thing to them. And I think I had an epiphany.

    Isn't this describing the whole social justice movement? The world is an unfair place where bad things happen and these people are looking for someone to blame. It's your white privilege, it's misogyny, it's always someone else doing the bad things to them when in reality it's just the world.

    Thankfully we've advanced to the point where we don't hang and stone people to death but this is the Salem Witch Trails right? I don't know it makes sense to me but you guys can tell me if I'm being an idiot.

    Youre not an idiot, but youre listening to a podcast and accepting it as fact. The "crops dying" angle on the Salem with trials is a bit of reaching for causation to fit an analogy. It may have played a part but the events in Salem were due in a much larger part to religious hysteria and established societal roles falling apart.
    This.

    Witch trials were a thing all over Protestant Europe at that time. In Latin Europe, they just had the Inquisition, which was pretty much the same thing.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    I'm not joking when I say I stared at the word "Trails" for a good 10 seconds thinking it didn't look right before deciding nah it's good.
  • HuskyJWHuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,511 Swaye's Wigwam
    Hmmmm.....I agree to a point.

    But the Social Justice movement is a little more than "people are mean to me." It annoys the shit out of me also...but bigotry and racism is something that can be changed (I think anyways) and we shouldn't just throw our hands up and say "that's just the way some people are."
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Is one of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Topics include, black holes, multiverse, AI killing us and whether or not that would actually be a good thing. It gave me a brain boner, highly recommend.

    They were talking about conspiracy theories and Krauss brought up the human need to blame others. How the world is an unfair place and bad things happen and how it's easier to blame someone for this. He brought up the Salem Witch Trails as an example. These people had their crops die and rather than thinking a bad thing happened to them it was easier to blame someone for doing a bad thing to them. And I think I had an epiphany.

    Isn't this describing the whole social justice movement? The world is an unfair place where bad things happen and these people are looking for someone to blame. It's your white privilege, it's misogyny, it's always someone else doing the bad things to them when in reality it's just the world.

    Thankfully we've advanced to the point where we don't hang and stone people to death but this is the Salem Witch Trails right? I don't know it makes sense to me but you guys can tell me if I'm being an idiot.

    Youre not an idiot, but youre listening to a podcast and accepting it as fact. The "crops dying" angle on the Salem with trials is a bit of reaching for causation to fit an analogy. It may have played a part but the events in Salem were due in a much larger part to religious hysteria and established societal roles falling apart.
    Accepting it as fact is a little strong. I'm using the information to pop off on the internet. I didn't care enough to actually research it and my philosophy is that if I don't care enough to check it then I'm willing to discuss it as if it were true while understanding that it may not be. If some nerd wants to correct me, so be it.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited April 2017

    Is one of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Topics include, black holes, multiverse, AI killing us and whether or not that would actually be a good thing. It gave me a brain boner, highly recommend.

    They were talking about conspiracy theories and Krauss brought up the human need to blame others. How the world is an unfair place and bad things happen and how it's easier to blame someone for this. He brought up the Salem Witch Trails as an example. These people had their crops die and rather than thinking a bad thing happened to them it was easier to blame someone for doing a bad thing to them. And I think I had an epiphany.

    Isn't this describing the whole social justice movement? The world is an unfair place where bad things happen and these people are looking for someone to blame. It's your white privilege, it's misogyny, it's always someone else doing the bad things to them when in reality it's just the world.

    Thankfully we've advanced to the point where we don't hang and stone people to death but this is the Salem Witch Trails right? I don't know it makes sense to me but you guys can tell me if I'm being an idiot.

    Free Pub!!!!!


    You're on to something there. Human nature is to immediately look outward when something bad happens to them, their loved ones or a group of people that they feel similar to or identify with. There are certainly still injustices in this world that happen from time to time. However there are millions of people out there that still look at historic events such as slavery and WW2 internment as examples of why the white man is a privileged boogeyman. Even though we've had labor laws that have prohibited it for over 50 years, these same people are blaming Men because Women aren't paid on par as Men. Without really looking at any circumstance in different situations.

    The reverse of this may be illegal immigration and the some white people blame them for stealing their job and the subsequent issues that happened in their lives after such event. When if the person would truly look inward at first, they could dust their selves off and find another job.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,954
    edited April 2017
    Except social justice is about imaginary bad things happening to other people who are supposedly too dumb and weak to stand up for themselves.

    See: voter ID
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Nope. Your still an idiot.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,743

    I'm not joking when I say I stared at the word "Trails" for a good 10 seconds thinking it didn't look right before deciding nah it's good.

    @salemcoog Witch Trails > Chemtrails
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Nope. Your still an idiot.

    I miss KEP4OSU and hell... I miss the der Golve.
  • TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Is one of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Topics include, black holes, multiverse, AI killing us and whether or not that would actually be a good thing. It gave me a brain boner, highly recommend.

    They were talking about conspiracy theories and Krauss brought up the human need to blame others. How the world is an unfair place and bad things happen and how it's easier to blame someone for this. He brought up the Salem Witch Trails as an example. These people had their crops die and rather than thinking a bad thing happened to them it was easier to blame someone for doing a bad thing to them. And I think I had an epiphany.

    Isn't this describing the whole social justice movement? The world is an unfair place where bad things happen and these people are looking for someone to blame. It's your white privilege, it's misogyny, it's always someone else doing the bad things to them when in reality it's just the world.

    Thankfully we've advanced to the point where we don't hang and stone people to death but this is the Salem Witch Trails right? I don't know it makes sense to me but you guys can tell me if I'm being an idiot.

    Fuck off @Tequilla
  • phineasphineas Member Posts: 4,732
    All those topics sound like something I want to listen to, but joe rogan is a faggot and I'll never listen to him again after calling ronda rousey a mythic creature and once in a lifetime athlete. Can't do it. Won't do it.
  • phineasphineas Member Posts: 4,732

    Is one of the most interesting things I've ever listened to. Topics include, black holes, multiverse, AI killing us and whether or not that would actually be a good thing. It gave me a brain boner, highly recommend.

    They were talking about conspiracy theories and Krauss brought up the human need to blame others. How the world is an unfair place and bad things happen and how it's easier to blame someone for this. He brought up the Salem Witch Trails as an example. These people had their crops die and rather than thinking a bad thing happened to them it was easier to blame someone for doing a bad thing to them. And I think I had an epiphany.

    Isn't this describing the whole social justice movement? The world is an unfair place where bad things happen and these people are looking for someone to blame. It's your white privilege, it's misogyny, it's always someone else doing the bad things to them when in reality it's just the world.

    Thankfully we've advanced to the point where we don't hang and stone people to death but this is the Salem Witch Trails right? I don't know it makes sense to me but you guys can tell me if I'm being an idiot.

    also, this is my thoughts on global warming. Sure, we might be warming up the earth. But it's going to happen regardless. That's just the way it is.
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 63,531 Founders Club

    Good, entertaining listen. Rogan is kind of a meathead but he has a lot of solid guests from time to time.

    Exactly right. About 1 out of 10 shows is gold, and the rest are him being a meathead with uninteresting guests.

    Also, when he acts like a meathead you can tell it's a cringe-inducing act to try to look cool
  • doogiedoogie Member Posts: 15,072
    imagine Witch trials inside the Wigwam
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