Hopkins TBS'ing Report

HFNY

Off to the races:

thenewstribune.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/dave-boling/article140203548.html

2001400ex

As usual, TNT article tells us nothing.

MyrnaMecaque

Tells me our new coach prefers your basic long time all nighter. Hell, yes. The "one and doners" have not made UW an insignificant loser, they have made HUSKY BB a spectacular, well-advertised loser. Hop is going to have the boys tighten their chin straps and hit somebody. I wonder if he'll bring back the mid-drift jerseys?

HFNY

Haha yeah, two year guys (like Terrance Ross) can work out at UW but one and doners like Hawes, Wroten, and Fultz led to a lot of high visibility wheel spinning in the mud.

MyrnaMecaque said:

Tells me our new coach prefers your basic long time all nighter. Hell, yes. The "one and doners" have not made UW an insignificant loser, they have made HUSKY BB a spectacular, well-advertised loser. Hop is going to have the boys tighten their chin straps and hit somebody. I wonder if he'll bring back the mid-drift jerseys?

dnc

HFNY said:

Haha yeah, two year guys (like Terrance Ross) can work out at UW but one and doners like Hawes, Wroten, and Fultz led to a lot of high visibility wheel spinning in the mud.

MyrnaMecaque said:

Tells me our new coach prefers your basic long time all nighter. Hell, yes. The "one and doners" have not made UW an insignificant loser, they have made HUSKY BB a spectacular, well-advertised loser. Hop is going to have the boys tighten their chin straps and hit somebody. I wonder if he'll bring back the mid-drift jerseys?

One and doners aren't the problem. Not developing talent around them has been the problem.

If Hop doesn't think he'll have the talent around Porter next year to justify the distraction and inability to install his system/culture then I'm all for him not taking him. But Hop only has a natty ring because Carmelo. He'll be all for taking one and dones when the time is right.

dnc

HFNY said:

Haha yeah, two year guys (like Terrance Ross) can work out at UW but one and doners like Hawes, Wroten, and Fultz led to a lot of high visibility wheel spinning in the mud.

MyrnaMecaque said:

Tells me our new coach prefers your basic long time all nighter. Hell, yes. The "one and doners" have not made UW an insignificant loser, they have made HUSKY BB a spectacular, well-advertised loser. Hop is going to have the boys tighten their chin straps and hit somebody. I wonder if he'll bring back the mid-drift jerseys?

Also kind of funny that Ross's second year was Wroten's one year.

RoadDawg55

dnc said:

HFNY said:

Haha yeah, two year guys (like Terrance Ross) can work out at UW but one and doners like Hawes, Wroten, and Fultz led to a lot of high visibility wheel spinning in the mud.

MyrnaMecaque said:

Tells me our new coach prefers your basic long time all nighter. Hell, yes. The "one and doners" have not made UW an insignificant loser, they have made HUSKY BB a spectacular, well-advertised loser. Hop is going to have the boys tighten their chin straps and hit somebody. I wonder if he'll bring back the mid-drift jerseys?

One and doners aren't the problem. Not developing talent around them has been the problem.

If Hop doesn't think he'll have the talent around Porter next year to justify the distraction and inability to install his system/culture then I'm all for him not taking him. But Hop only has a natty ring because Carmelo. He'll be all for taking one and dones when the time is right.

Yep. Syracuse has had a few one and dones. There is no way avoiding them. Some guys you expect to stay 2-3 years will leave after one.

HFNY

Well Syracuse had a system in place and very stable coaching (and program support) to manage Melo as a one and doner.

I'm not against one and doners and but the conditions have to be right.

dnc said:

HFNY said:

Haha yeah, two year guys (like Terrance Ross) can work out at UW but one and doners like Hawes, Wroten, and Fultz led to a lot of high visibility wheel spinning in the mud.

MyrnaMecaque said:

Tells me our new coach prefers your basic long time all nighter. Hell, yes. The "one and doners" have not made UW an insignificant loser, they have made HUSKY BB a spectacular, well-advertised loser. Hop is going to have the boys tighten their chin straps and hit somebody. I wonder if he'll bring back the mid-drift jerseys?

One and doners aren't the problem. Not developing talent around them has been the problem.

If Hop doesn't think he'll have the talent around Porter next year to justify the distraction and inability to install his system/culture then I'm all for him not taking him. But Hop only has a natty ring because Carmelo. He'll be all for taking one and dones when the time is right.

Doogles

Not to sound like captain obvious, but how fucking hard is it to inspire kids to play hard?

AAU has fucked the game up. It's cool to be nonchalant.

huskyhooligan

Ultimately Romar was undone by Murray and Chriss. No one saw them being one and done, and replacing those types in April is tough to do. Those two with Fultz would have been fun to watch. But it didn't and the team sucked.

TTJ

huskyhooligan said:

Ultimately Romar was undone by Murray and Chriss. No one saw them being one and done, and replacing those types in April is tough to do. Those two with Fultz would have been fun to watch. But it didn't and the team sucked.

Uh, no.

Romar was undone when those fags were in middle school.

2001400ex

huskyhooligan said:

Ultimately Romar was undone by Murray and Chriss. No one saw them being one and done, and replacing those types in April is tough to do. Those two with Fultz would have been fun to watch. But it didn't and the team sucked.

Why do you hate Williams Goss and half that team?

huskyhooligan

NWG will have a nice career in Europe. He can eat a dick as well. Obviously hypothetical, but I wonder if he stays Murray becomes a first round draft pick? One will never know.

dnc

huskyhooligan said:

Ultimately Romar was undone by Murray and Chriss. No one saw them being one and done, and replacing those types in April is tough to do. Those two with Fultz would have been fun to watch. But it didn't and the team sucked.

@ThomasFremont had Murray as a one and done from the start....well at least until the very end when all of a sudden he said he'd stay. But he had him as a one and done talent early.

Nobody saw Chriss blowing up like he did, but Romar was done long before Chriss's hypothetical sophomore year.

Intersectional_Dawg

Doogles said:

Not to sound like captain obvious, but how fucking hard is it to inspire kids to play hard?

AAU has fucked the game up. It's cool to be nonchalant.

This is so dumb and Caucasian.

ThomasFremont

dnc said:

huskyhooligan said:

Ultimately Romar was undone by Murray and Chriss. No one saw them being one and done, and replacing those types in April is tough to do. Those two with Fultz would have been fun to watch. But it didn't and the team sucked.

@ThomasFremont had Murray as a one and done from the start....well at least until the very end when all of a sudden he said he'd stay. But he had him as a one and done talent early.

Nobody saw Chriss blowing up like he did, but Romar was done long before Chriss's hypothetical sophomore year.

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Tequilla

A program worth a shit is never about one player ... Xavier is a good example of that

huskyhooligan

I agree, was it 2011 and 2012 recruiting was head scratching as well. I remember the talk about Murray being under hyped. I also remember watching Jaylen Nowell basically shutting him down in the state tourney. I don't think anyone thinks Nowell is one and done either. Maybe his AAU coach or handlers.

dnc

huskyhooligan said:

I agree, was it 2011 and 2012 recruiting was head scratching as well. I remember the talk about Murray being under hyped. I also remember watching Jaylen Nowell basically shutting him down in the state tourney. I don't think anyone thinks Nowell is one and done either. Maybe his AAU coach or handlers.

I haven't seen any buzz about Nowell or Davis being one and done. I think they're probably 2-3 year guys but you never know.