Ezeike vs. Culp?

HoustonHusky

TBSers...which one is better for our receiving TE, and which one do we want/get? Both are ~6'5", 210lbs.

Michael Ezeike
http://www.hudl.com/profile/4788872/michael-ezeike

Devin Culp
http://www.hudl.com/profile/6040370/devin-culp

HUSKYFANATIC

Culp

CuntWaffle

Both and convert one to DE

animate

Take them both. Can't have enough jumbo athletes ..

Tequilla

Only an issue if you could conceivably pull both in ...

The reality is that Culp is likely the easier pull for a number of reasons (location, relationship with Lubick) ...

From a talent standpoint, what is hard in comparing high school tape at time is trying to compare what they are asked to do for their teams and in particular at the HS level for WR/TE prospects when it comes to catching the ball a lot depends on opportunity and quality of QB.

With Ezeike, he's got an outstanding catch radius and his ability to make the difficult catch look easy stands out pretty quickly. He looks a little more lumbering to me in his RAC style than fluid. I'm not sure that I see a guy that bulks up to 6'5" 245 range with his frame ... he's probably more in the Mike Williams (USC) mode to me in terms of being a big body WR that can bully DBs but too fast for LBs. I'm not sure I see it for him playing TE.

Culp to me looks like more of a natural athlete to me given his body frame and it definitely looks like he could carry more weight and get to that 6'4" 240-245 range without losing much (if any) of his athletic ability. While he doesn't look like the most natural of pass catchers it's still very good.

The reality of playing with a 2 TE system is that it has the ability to create significant mismatch problems for opposing defenses. But the key to the 2 TE system is that the TEs have to be able to be effective players in both the run and pass game. It's ok to have a mix where one is known to be a stronger receiver than blocker and vice versa. But they can't be empty in one of the components.

The above is why we have the affectionate name for a recruiting slot for "White TE" because that's the TE that we expect will be the stronger option in the blocking component. Jake Peters (assuming healthy) is the perfect fit for this role and to me a throw back to our long line of TEs coming from the 90s in terms of the ability to be above average in both aspects of TE play ... his ceiling as "White TE" is significantly higher than the Sample/Dissly combo that we had in 2016 and IMO higher ceilings than both Kizer or Otton.

NeGgaPlEaSe

Tequilla said:

Only an issue if you could conceivably pull both in ...

The reality is that Culp is likely the easier pull for a number of reasons (location, relationship with Lubick) ...

From a talent standpoint, what is hard in comparing high school tape at time is trying to compare what they are asked to do for their teams and in particular at the HS level for WR/TE prospects when it comes to catching the ball a lot depends on opportunity and quality of QB.

With Ezeike, he's got an outstanding catch radius and his ability to make the difficult catch look easy stands out pretty quickly. He looks a little more lumbering to me in his RAC style than fluid. I'm not sure that I see a guy that bulks up to 6'5" 245 range with his frame ... he's probably more in the Mike Williams (USC) mode to me in terms of being a big body WR that can bully DBs but too fast for LBs. I'm not sure I see it for him playing TE.

Culp to me looks like more of a natural athlete to me given his body frame and it definitely looks like he could carry more weight and get to that 6'4" 240-245 range without losing much (if any) of his athletic ability. While he doesn't look like the most natural of pass catchers it's still very good.

The reality of playing with a 2 TE system is that it has the ability to create significant mismatch problems for opposing defenses. But the key to the 2 TE system is that the TEs have to be able to be effective players in both the run and pass game. It's ok to have a mix where one is known to be a stronger receiver than blocker and vice versa. But they can't be empty in one of the components.

The above is why we have the affectionate name for a recruiting slot for "White TE" because that's the TE that we expect will be the stronger option in the blocking component. Jake Peters (assuming healthy) is the perfect fit for this role and to me a throw back to our long line of TEs coming from the 90s in terms of the ability to be above average in both aspects of TE play ... his ceiling as "White TE" is significantly higher than the Sample/Dissly combo that we had in 2016 and IMO higher ceilings than both Kizer or Otton.

That's why I pay my $10.95, good shit Tequila

Dennis_DeYoung

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

TTJ

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dnc

Dennis_DeYoung said:

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

Both at TE or one at TE and the other at WR?

GrundleStiltzkin

TTJ said:

It's hard.

Dennis_DeYoung

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

Both at TE or one at TE and the other at WR?

They are both BTEs.

GrundleStiltzkin

Dennis_DeYoung said:

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

Both at TE or one at TE and the other at WR?

They are both BTEs.

dnc

Dennis_DeYoung said:

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

Both at TE or one at TE and the other at WR?

They are both BTEs.

So two BTEs this year instead of a WTE, or abundance and take one less somewhere else?

NEsnake12

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

Both at TE or one at TE and the other at WR?

They are both BTEs.

So two BTEs this year instead of a WTE, or abundance and take one less somewhere else?

Since we took 3 WR, 2 WTE (I'm including Jacob Kizer), and 1 BTE last cycle... I'd assume a max of 4 combined WR/TE, without taking more than 1 of each kind of TE.

The reports of Chase Williams not hearing much from us anymore might indicate that we're fine only taking 2 WRs (Ozzy and Spiker).

dnc

NEsnake12 said:

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

dnc said:

Dennis_DeYoung said:

I'd like them both. I think Ezeike will get a USC offer before too long, tho.

Both at TE or one at TE and the other at WR?

They are both BTEs.

So two BTEs this year instead of a WTE, or abundance and take one less somewhere else?

Since we took 3 WR, 2 WTE (I'm including Jacob Kizer), and 1 BTE last cycle... I'd assume a max of 4 combined WR/TE, without taking more than 1 of each kind of TE.

The reports of Chase Williams not hearing much from us anymore might indicate that we're fine only taking 2 WRs (Ozzy and Spiker).

They've told recruits they're taking 3 WR this year so I'm guessing it's a max of 5. Hard to say if they're counting one of Ezekie/Harrison/Lowe/Culp as WR with intentions of moving them later, but my best guess is they want Osborne Spiker and Michael Williams plus two tes plus Lowe and Harrison. My thinking is they'll under recruit WR next year to compensate, but too much talent to pass up right now.

We'll see.

AlCzervik

GrundleStiltzkin said:

TTJ said:

It's hard.

Nurple

Like Culp better.
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CFetters_Nacho_Lover

Ezeike sounds too much like Izbiki.

dnc

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Ezeike sounds too much like Izbiki.

Black > White

Dennis_DeYoung

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Ezeike sounds too much like Izbiki.

POTYSF

Nurple

dnc said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Ezeike sounds too much like Izbiki.

Black > White

Sounds like Trumps non America lol.