CBO says

dhdawg

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/13/us/politics/affordable-care-act-health-congressional-budget-office.html?_r=0
14 million uninsured as a result by the year 2018. People's premium 1/5th higher than they would be without obamacare
I assume the cut in the deficit is a result of the block granting.

Have fun selling this atrocious bill trump

2001400ex

I wonder if that's dynamic scoring. I will say I didn't think it would cut the deficit given all the tax cuts in the bill. Must mean way​ less subsidies and less people on Medicare. Just another transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. Nice work.

dhdawg

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

Kaepsknee

dhdawg said:

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

I fail to recognize the difference between everyone being forced to have health insurance vs the opportunity for everyone to have health insurance. It's a hard distinction for me to make.

Three truths and one opine:

Obamacare is not financially sustainable and was set up for failure.

Medicare is not financially sustainable given the overwhelming amount of people soon to be eligible for it.

The Republican Congress is an absolute shit show for not having brought anything well thought out to the table as it's replacement.

Medicaid needs to be reduced if we are to ever approach a responsible budget process in the Fed Gov't.

greenblood

salemcoog said:

dhdawg said:

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

I fail to recognize the difference between everyone being forced to have health insurance vs the opportunity for everyone to have health insurance. It's a hard distinction for me to make.

Three truths and one opine:

Obamacare is not financially sustainable and was set up for failure.

Medicare is not financially sustainable given the overwhelming amount of people soon to be eligible for it.

The Republican Congress is an absolute shit show for not having brought anything well thought out to the table as it's replacement.

Medicaid needs to be reduced if we are to ever approach a responsible budget process in the Fed Gov't.

So people need to actually work for it? What a concept...

2001400ex

greenblood said:

salemcoog said:

dhdawg said:

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

I fail to recognize the difference between everyone being forced to have health insurance vs the opportunity for everyone to have health insurance. It's a hard distinction for me to make.

Three truths and one opine:

Obamacare is not financially sustainable and was set up for failure.

Medicare is not financially sustainable given the overwhelming amount of people soon to be eligible for it.

The Republican Congress is an absolute shit show for not having brought anything well thought out to the table as it's replacement.

Medicaid needs to be reduced if we are to ever approach a responsible budget process in the Fed Gov't.

So people need to actually work for it? What a concept...

But those that don't work drain the medical system. It's why those who do have health insurance pay $18 for one aspirin.

HTH

doogie

liar.

dhdawg

salemcoog said:

dhdawg said:

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

I fail to recognize the difference between everyone being forced to have health insurance vs the opportunity for everyone to have health insurance. It's a hard distinction for me to make.

Three truths and one opine:

Obamacare is not financially sustainable and was set up for failure.

Medicare is not financially sustainable given the overwhelming amount of people soon to be eligible for it.

The Republican Congress is an absolute shit show for not having brought anything well thought out to the table as it's replacement.

Medicaid needs to be reduced if we are to ever approach a responsible budget process in the Fed Gov't.

I agree with some of what you are saying. I understand it's rationale but I don't like the concept of mandating people buy a private product. I would have preferred some sort of 2 tiered system providing basic care to all plus whatever you want to buy yourself.

-Disagree. Yes it cost money but it was paid for by taxes on the rich, which is the biggest reason by far that republicans oppose it.
The bill would be in much better shape had the risk corridors not been pulled out by rubio in last year's budget.

-medicare will face it's challenges. but like with Social Security changes can be made to improve it's solvency.

-the republicans had no ideas? color me shocked.

-you can make that argument. but the rest of trump's proposals show he has no interest in actually creating a sustainable budget that balances. Also my point was that he made a specific promise not to cut it. he lied

dhdawg

doogie said:

liar.

the ball gargling will never stop with you will it

doogie

dhdawg said:

salemcoog said:

dhdawg said:

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

I fail to recognize the difference between everyone being forced to have health insurance vs the opportunity for everyone to have health insurance. It's a hard distinction for me to make.

Three truths and one opine:

Obamacare is not financially sustainable and was set up for failure.

Medicare is not financially sustainable given the overwhelming amount of people soon to be eligible for it.

The Republican Congress is an absolute shit show for not having brought anything well thought out to the table as it's replacement.

Medicaid needs to be reduced if we are to ever approach a responsible budget process in the Fed Gov't.

I agree with some of what you are saying. I understand it's rationale but I don't like the concept of mandating people buy a private product. I would have preferred some sort of 2 tiered system providing basic care to all plus whatever you want to buy yourself.

-Disagree. Yes it cost money but it was paid for by taxes on the rich, which is the biggest reason by far that republicans oppose it.
The bill would be in much better shape had the risk corridors not been pulled out by rubio in last year's budget.

-medicare will face it's challenges. but like with Social Security changes can be made to improve it's solvency.

-the republicans had no ideas? color me shocked.

-you can make that argument. but the rest of trump's proposals show he has no interest in actually creating a sustainable budget that balances. Also my point was that he made a specific promise not to cut it. he lied

You supported Obamacare and now you hate it? and you vehimately oppose a fix?

2001400ex

doogie said:

dhdawg said:

salemcoog said:

dhdawg said:

I was told by trump that everyone will be covered costs lower, and medicaid will not be cut.

3 more lies. but salem and race will keep telling us he's keeping his promises

I fail to recognize the difference between everyone being forced to have health insurance vs the opportunity for everyone to have health insurance. It's a hard distinction for me to make.

Three truths and one opine:

Obamacare is not financially sustainable and was set up for failure.

Medicare is not financially sustainable given the overwhelming amount of people soon to be eligible for it.

The Republican Congress is an absolute shit show for not having brought anything well thought out to the table as it's replacement.

Medicaid needs to be reduced if we are to ever approach a responsible budget process in the Fed Gov't.

I agree with some of what you are saying. I understand it's rationale but I don't like the concept of mandating people buy a private product. I would have preferred some sort of 2 tiered system providing basic care to all plus whatever you want to buy yourself.

-Disagree. Yes it cost money but it was paid for by taxes on the rich, which is the biggest reason by far that republicans oppose it.
The bill would be in much better shape had the risk corridors not been pulled out by rubio in last year's budget.

-medicare will face it's challenges. but like with Social Security changes can be made to improve it's solvency.

-the republicans had no ideas? color me shocked.

-you can make that argument. but the rest of trump's proposals show he has no interest in actually creating a sustainable budget that balances. Also my point was that he made a specific promise not to cut it. he lied

You supported Obamacare and now you hate it? and you vehimately oppose a fix?

You don't read well.