Open letter to Bill Fleenor Fucking Stupid

TierbsHsotBoobs

It's a good thing for the Pac-12's reputation that no one is watching the actual Pac-12 games. People still think Stanford and UW are good.

[Deleted User]

If a team loses but no one watched, did it really happen?

chrisvashon

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

chrisvashon said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Scott sucks at his job.

Doogs love Scott.

Weird how Doogs love the current guy who sucks at his job. Never thought that would happen.

Huge tv deal? Check.
Pac 12 network? Check.

This is bad? I feel like people are forgetting the dark days of Root sports

You're taking the krisvashon parody a bit too far.

I too am surprised that krisvashon is the voice of reason. But your hatred of sark has now bled into hatred of Scott, which is weird. He's done fine.

Expansion is key as we move to super conferences (and to bigger tv deals). Pulling in Texas was a pipe dream. Utah & Colorado are fine. No complaints.

Why is the network a "disaster"? I honestly don't get this. Every football game is now on tv. That's huge. The original programming I've seen is pretty good. The Drive is a phenomenal show.

So I'm guessing the issue is coverage - ie direct tv. Direct TV has done the math and decided to play hardball with new college sports networks (it hasn't picked up the SEC network either). Ok. But why does the blame for this fall on Scott? My understanding -- correct me if I'm wrong -- is that direct wants a special deal. But said deal would undercut the deals already struck with the other providers. So it's a nonstarter for Scott/Pac 12. Right?

This makes Larry Scott the next Ty? To quote my dear friend Taft, "Say whaaaa?"

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Nobody is saying Scott is the next Ty we are saying he is to Sark what Hansen is to Ty.

Basically he is getting way too much credit because he followed up a turd. While in reality he hasn't really done that much.

Pulling in Utah and Colorado for expansion was a disaster when you were throwing out Texas and Oklahoma.

TierbsHsotBoobs

chrisvashon said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

chrisvashon said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Scott sucks at his job.

Doogs love Scott.

Weird how Doogs love the current guy who sucks at his job. Never thought that would happen.

Huge tv deal? Check.
Pac 12 network? Check.

This is bad? I feel like people are forgetting the dark days of Root sports

You're taking the krisvashon parody a bit too far.

I too am surprised that krisvashon is the voice of reason. But your hatred of sark has now bled into hatred of Scott, which is weird. He's done fine.

Expansion is key as we move to super conferences (and to bigger tv deals). Pulling in Texas was a pipe dream. Utah & Colorado are fine. No complaints.

Why is the network a "disaster"? I honestly don't get this. Every football game is now on tv. That's huge. The original programming I've seen is pretty good. The Drive is a phenomenal show.

So I'm guessing the issue is coverage - ie direct tv. Direct TV has done the math and decided to play hardball with new college sports networks (it hasn't picked up the SEC network either). Ok. But why does the blame for this fall on Scott? My understanding -- correct me if I'm wrong -- is that direct wants a special deal. But said deal would undercut the deals already struck with the other providers. So it's a nonstarter for Scott/Pac 12. Right?

This makes Larry Scott the next Ty? To quote my dear friend Taft, "Say whaaaa?"

Hansen was the Ty of conference commissioners.

Scott is the Sark of conference commissioners.

DIRECTV isn't going to pay the same for the Pac-12 network as the B1G network because the B1G network covers a much more populated geographic footprint. DIRECTV doesn't need second tier REGIONAL networks like the Pac-12 network. Fuck, it barely even needs FS1, and that is a NATIONAL network.

The REAL SEC Network doesn't exist yet. ESPN will launch it next August. DIRECTV will pay more for the SEC network than it is offering the Pac-12 network too. Book it, done.


chrisvashon has reached krisvashon territory in this thread.

Meek

not sure what the initial post was about in terms of bleenor but i'm guessing he called out Fox for putting the game on FS1 and if that's the case, then you are correct that Fox is desperately trying to "help" people find FS1 by putting certain games there... makes sense to me. Pac12 Network is still the stupidest thing ever too.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Meek said:

not sure what the initial post was about in terms of bleenor but i'm guessing he called out Fox for putting the game on FS1 and if that's the case, then you are correct that Fox is desperately trying to "help" people find FS1 by putting certain games there... makes sense to me. Pac12 Network is still the stupidest thing ever too.

Fleenor is claiming that FS1 pulls better ratings than ESPN2 and ESPNU for college football, even though the facts say otherwise. Oregon @ UW got a 1.3 rating, which is massive by FS1 standards but absolute dogshit compared to ABC, CBS, NBC, and ESPN standards.

Meek

oh, hahaha... unless you obsess over college football nobody will have added FS1 to their channel guide. bleenor probably knew i was going to say that.

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TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Meek said:

not sure what the initial post was about in terms of bleenor but i'm guessing he called out Fox for putting the game on FS1 and if that's the case, then you are correct that Fox is desperately trying to "help" people find FS1 by putting certain games there... makes sense to me. Pac12 Network is still the stupidest thing ever too.

Fleenor is claiming that FS1 pulls better ratings than ESPN2 and ESPNU for college football, even though the facts say otherwise. Oregon @ UW got a 1.3 rating, which is massive by FS1 standards but absolute dogshit compared to ABC, CBS, NBC, and ESPN standards.

Jesus christ! I knew Fleenor was a fucking idiot but I didn't think he was that fucking stupid!

That's section14AFS status there.

JECAR

What's Fleenor's doog handle?