Miami @ Virginia
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I'd say from what we've seen in the last 5-7 years it's more likely as recruits are spreading out across the board. Christ, UW got Markelle Fultz this year for a team who hadn't been to the NCAA in 4 years. I just see college basketball getting more parity which will allow for more chances at a championship. Granted, he will still have to play a juggernaut such as UK/DUKE/UNC.Tequilla said:It's a fair point that Virginia is capable ... but given the quality of competition around them in the ACC I just find it hard to imagine that they will be able to land those recruits. In this case, location really matters.
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I think I'd actually be UW for a couple of reasons:
1) There's less competition for local recruits ... Cougs aren't a factor ... Gonzaga goes after different kids ... you have to beat out Oregon, UCLA, and Arizona primarily ... UCLA recruits mostly California whereas Oregon and Arizona tend to be a little wider in scope.
2) I do agree with you that there's the potential for guys to spread out more nationally, but the question I have is why. Fultz went to UW because he was going to get the exposure necessary to be a Top 3 pick. The narrative that he was coming to play with Murray and Chriss is a load of BS. He could have been a difference maker for a program like Virginia if he was willing to put in the work ...
3) Virginia is in an interesting place to me just because of the local competition. There's a lot of great schools in the area and a lot of high end high school players within probably a 3-4 hour radius. But EVERYBODY is recruiting there. So then it comes down to how do you differentiate yourself. The way Virginia does is through hard working defense and backward offense. That's likely not going to appeal too much to a lot of the kids in that radius. -
1) Not doubting that is true, but how big of a factor is that really?Tequilla said:I think I'd actually be UW for a couple of reasons:
1) There's less competition for local recruits ... Cougs aren't a factor ... Gonzaga goes after different kids ... you have to beat out Oregon, UCLA, and Arizona primarily ... UCLA recruits mostly California whereas Oregon and Arizona tend to be a little wider in scope.
2) I do agree with you that there's the potential for guys to spread out more nationally, but the question I have is why. Fultz went to UW because he was going to get the exposure necessary to be a Top 3 pick. The narrative that he was coming to play with Murray and Chriss is a load of BS. He could have been a difference maker for a program like Virginia if he was willing to put in the work ...
3) Virginia is in an interesting place to me just because of the local competition. There's a lot of great schools in the area and a lot of high end high school players within probably a 3-4 hour radius. But EVERYBODY is recruiting there. So then it comes down to how do you differentiate yourself. The way Virginia does is through hard working defense and backward offense. That's likely not going to appeal too much to a lot of the kids in that radius.
2) Fultz would make an impact at any good school. There is a reason he's at worst a top 3 pick. There isn't a freshman in the country that would make UW a good team. You could make a subjective argument if Ball would make the team better than Fultz, but UW would still suck.
3) Virginia wins. They probably will never kill it in recruiting, but they have put a couple of guys in the NBA. Their players tend to stay four years and develop.
Virginia is a tournament team under Bennett and that isn't changing. They have made it five of the last six years. UW hasn't been in six years. I would rather be Virginia as would 95-99% of anyone who follows college b-ball at all. -
If my options were UW right now or Virginia ... it's obviously Virginia.
My point on Fultz was trying to figure out what some of these guys that just are making a pit stop in college because they are going pro after one year no matter what.
I do think that there are some advantages at UW that the right coach can exploit. -
Bennett ball is cancer and anyone that likes it deserves ass cancer.
But he's better than Romar!!!1! -
The fultz recruitment and subsequent attendance to UW is one of the more baffling "wins" of the romar era. UW is in a shit conference(as a whole), on a shit network, and plays at shit times, on a team which had a low likelihood of playing when most people begin watching college basketball. And there was even less likelihood he'd be playing when everyone watches, in march. How that creates exposure for a kid is beyond me. If he's playing at Duke, Nova, Kansas or even AZ or UCLA he'd have a much better chance at walking into a large shoe contract day 1 of the draft. The kid seems great and genuine but it will always be baffling.Tequilla said:If my options were UW right now or Virginia ... it's obviously Virginia.
My point on Fultz was trying to figure out what some of these guys that just are making a pit stop in college because they are going pro after one year no matter what.
I do think that there are some advantages at UW that the right coach can exploit.
Porter(s) make sense because his father is making 400k a year.
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She's annoying.Tequilla said:Are you saying that you hate Doris?
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I'm kind of a Bennett fan actually. I made a post about a year ago saying how he's better than Romar. In terms of entertainment value though... It's like when the NBA went from 105 points a game to 88 points in the 90s. Yuck.FreeChavez said:While not enjoyable to watch, at least bennett is trying and succeeding at a strategy. He isn't going to compete with the UNC's and Dukes at that level and has figured out a way to compete. Granted, i'd rather pitch a tent in Jonestown than watch a UVA game.
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Fuck that. I'm down with the 90's.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'm kind of a Bennett fan actually. I made a post about a year ago saying how he's better than Romar. In terms of entertainment value though... It's like when the NBA went from 105 points a game to 88 points in the 90s. Yuck.FreeChavez said:While not enjoyable to watch, at least bennett is trying and succeeding at a strategy. He isn't going to compete with the UNC's and Dukes at that level and has figured out a way to compete. Granted, i'd rather pitch a tent in Jonestown than watch a UVA game.
I still respect someone who's gone and done something with less, than nothing with more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lAvILelIUg
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Chin'd for Get LowPurpleThrobber said:
Fuck that. I'm down with the 90's.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
I'm kind of a Bennett fan actually. I made a post about a year ago saying how he's better than Romar. In terms of entertainment value though... It's like when the NBA went from 105 points a game to 88 points in the 90s. Yuck.FreeChavez said:While not enjoyable to watch, at least bennett is trying and succeeding at a strategy. He isn't going to compete with the UNC's and Dukes at that level and has figured out a way to compete. Granted, i'd rather pitch a tent in Jonestown than watch a UVA game.
I still respect someone who's gone and done something with less, than nothing with more.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lAvILelIUg
