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Auburndawg
Auburndawg Member Posts: 362
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A college football coach is 100% responsible for results. No excuses.

A CFB coach recruits the players and hires his own staff.

If the kids are too small or too slow, the coach should have recruited bigger, faster players.

If the kids don't execute the coach should have trained them better.

The job of the CFB coach is to get his school to its proper level of performance- what it should achieve given the Iron Laws: Location, Tradition, Money.

At Washington, that level is as follows:

Winning season and a bowl game every year.
Competing for the league championship most years
Competing for a national championship once or twice per decade

The real debate is how long do you give a new coach to achieve that?

For Sark, to me this means the minimum standard this year is 9 total wins, but 10 is what would show real improvement and progress. Eight wins or less and he should be fired.

I offer this so perhaps people will stop misrepresenting what Auburndawg believes.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    I have no problem with this post however can u pls stop talking in the 3rd person it's annoying
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  • Auburndawg
    Auburndawg Member Posts: 362
    What does the word compete mean? It may turn out that we come closer to Oregon than anyone else does.

    If he wins 9 or 10 games you really think he should be fired? We have only won 10 games 12 times in our history.

    LIPO
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  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    The job of the CFB coach is to get his school to its proper level of performance- what it should achieve given the Iron Laws: Location, Tradition, Money.

    Winning season and a bowl game every year.     Check for the Ducks.
    Competing for the league championship most years. Check.
    Competing for a national championship once or twice per decade every three years. Check.

    Your so-called "iron laws" are fucktarded.
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  • Auburndawg
    Auburndawg Member Posts: 362
    dhdawg said:

    I have no problem with this post however can u pls stop talking in the 3rd person it's annoying

    No.
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  • Auburndawg
    Auburndawg Member Posts: 362
    Canard said:

    The job of the CFB coach is to get his school to its proper level of performance- what it should achieve given the Iron Laws: Location, Tradition, Money.

    Winning season and a bowl game every year.     Check for the Ducks.
    Competing for the league championship most years. Check.
    Competing for a national championship once or twice per decade every three years. Check.

    Your so-called "iron laws" are fucktarded.

    So with the right coach, Oregon State or WSU can become a consistent top tier program?

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  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    The real debate is how long do you give a new coach to achieve that?

    3 years, which means we're already OVER THE LINE
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  • chrisvashon
    chrisvashon Member Posts: 627
    edited October 2013
    Auburndawg said:

    Canard said:

    The job of the CFB coach is to get his school to its proper level of performance- what it should achieve given the Iron Laws: Location, Tradition, Money.

    Winning season and a bowl game every year.     Check for the Ducks.
    Competing for the league championship most years. Check.
    Competing for a national championship once or twice per decade every three years. Check.

    Your so-called "iron laws" are fucktarded.

    So with the right coach, Oregon State or WSU can become a consistent top tier program?

    If it can be done at BOISE FUCKING STATE, it can be done anywhere. BSU is bottom of the barrel when it comes to location, tradition, & money. But they have, and have had, good fucking coaches. And when you start to win, even at Boise State, the money & tradition magically starts to appear.

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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    9 total wins means: We went 5-4 in conference and won the bowl game, or went 6-3 in conference and lost the bowl game.

    Regardless, I think we drop 2-3 more conference games and end up 3rd/4th in the north. The fact of the matter is that we aren't able to beat the best teams in the conference. Sark deserves a little credit for getting us back to mediocre, but I don't think he can take us to the next level. That is the issue here. Are we okay with just being in the top half of the conference, or should we expect better?
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Using the total wins is a horrible idea in the age of pussified 13 (or 14) game schedules.

    Look at the conference records instead if you want to judge Sark's ability to fulfill the aspirations of the program:
    4-5
    5-4
    5-4
    5-4
    1-2

    Three years was enough for people with half a brain to know Sark wasn't good enough, and all remaining doubt was removed with that magical Lather, Rinse, Repeat 2012 season.

    That's why we all knew the 2013 season was over before it began. The 2014 season is also already over unless Sark gets fired after the 2013 Apple Cup.
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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited October 2013
    to me this means the minimum standard this year is 9 total wins, but 10 is what would show real improvement and progress.
    So you are ok with Sark only winning 9 games and in the process failing to show real improvement and progress?

    Your "standard" is to accept failure to succeed and now failure to show "real improvement and progress".

    You are full of shit, explain away your double speak. IMO the reason you sound like a fusktard is because in a single sentence you yell "NO EXCUSES" all while hedging your expectations.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    But he's done a great job recruiting coming off 0-12 then 7-6.

    Everyone says so.
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  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    edited October 2013
    Auburndawg said:

    Canard said:

    The job of the CFB coach is to get his school to its proper level of performance- what it should achieve given the Iron Laws: Location, Tradition, Money.

    Winning season and a bowl game every year.     Check for the Ducks.
    Competing for the league championship most years. Check.
    Competing for a national championship once or twice per decade every three years. Check.

    Your so-called "iron laws" are fucktarded.

    So with the right coach, Oregon State or WSU can become a consistent top tier program?

    That's a deflection from what I am saying and you know it. The question you don't tackle is how Oregon is doing what you wish UW could do while missing on two of your three criteria.

    Maybe in light of yours and UCLA's titanic struggles with modern relevancy despite money, location, and tradition, your "iron laws" should perhaps become the following:

    Money.
    AD COMPETENCE.
    COACHING COMPETENCE, &
    FACILITIES.

    We have all four, you have two. Stanford has all four and UCLA has two. OSU has .75 in coaching and that's it. Wazzu is stuck on one with Moos.

    Been to Stillwater, OK? If T. B. Pickens transformed that shithole into a Fiesta Bowl winning program, with cash, hookers and blow, then all Wazzu needs is a Daddy Warbucks. Location and tradition count for squat in the face of truckloads of competently spent cash and world class facilities. Mix in actually good coaching and stand back.

    UW will go nowhere near "elite" while missing badly in the competence categories. That you can't see that Woodward and Sark are basically the left tit and right tit of the feminization of your football program, there's no helping you.
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Who is Auburndawg? We only have Auburndoog/AuburnDawgFuckingStupid.
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  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam
    12 game seasons + a bowl game + game(s) vs. FCS opponents = A coach should average 10 wins/year at REAL Washington.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,817 Founders Club
    What Auburndawg needs to read

    http://hardcorehusky.com/news/duckfighter-illustrated
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    MikeDamone said:

    But he's done a great job recruiting coming off 0-12 then 7-6.

    Everyone says so.

    Sark just needs more time to recover from the 2010 7-6 season, the 2011 7-6 season, and the 2012 7-6 season.
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  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    RaceBannon said:

    What Auburndawg needs to read

    http://hardcorehusky.com/news/duckfighter-illustrated

    Somebody has an agenda.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    I can't wait for Auburndoog to backtrack on this post.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    I can't wait for Auburndoog to backtrack on this post.

    He already has. He said no excuses then is making non stop excuses for Sark.

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
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  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    all Wazzu needs is a Daddy Warbucks

    Still puzzling that Paul Allen never stepped up w/ Coog athletics
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    unfrozencaveman said:

    all Wazzu needs is a Daddy Warbucks

    Still puzzling that Paul Allen never stepped up w/ Coog athletics

    I don't think he ever got into the College scene as him and Gates went to several schools. Plus he grew up a UW fan and even donated that giant scoreboard to Husky Stadium for a while.

    Plus in a situation like him or any of the other big time guys in Seattle the A.D. really needs to sell him on it like Moos did with Knight.
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  • LevelPar
    LevelPar Member Posts: 447
    dhdawg said:

    I have no problem with this post however can u pls stop talking in the 3rd person it's annoying

    He should apologize to those with lower IQs who can't comprehend a third person dialog.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    tradition is worthless unless it happened in the last few years. Recruits don't care how good empterman and hugh macklamore was in the 50's.

    To people that matter (Recruits) oregon and oklahoma state have more tradtion than us. We are a 7-6 school.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Yale, Minnesota, Chicago U, Army have a lot of tradition too..........
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  • unfrozencaveman
    unfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    RIP Yale

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  • Auburndawg
    Auburndawg Member Posts: 362
    RaceBannon said:

    What Auburndawg needs to read

    http://hardcorehusky.com/news/duckfighter-illustrated

    I did. I agreed with much of it then and now.

    Auburndawg:

    Supported firing Skippy
    Opposed making Gilby anything other than interim
    Opposed hiring Ty
    Said Ty should be fired after the 2007 Arizona game
    Supported hiring Mora and opposed hiring Sark
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