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dhdawg
dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-japan-idUSKBN15I0RS

high speed rail is awesome and we've needed for a while. hopefully it expands over time.

I don't know when the agreement was actually struck, but good either way.
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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    The California train is a great idea.

    Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club

    The California train is a great idea.

    Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

    The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

    This is not completely factual but still
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    Seattle to Portland, Sacramento to Bay Area, Bay Area to LA, LA to Vegas, LA to San Diego, Phoenix to LA, Phoenix to Vegas, Tucson to Phoenix. Skip the wasteland between Sacramento and Portland.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    They are trying LA to SF but nobody actually wants the train to run through their town or neighborhood
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    dhdawg said:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-japan-idUSKBN15I0RS

    high speed rail is awesome and we've needed for a while. hopefully it expands over time.

    I don't know when the agreement was actually struck, but good either way.

    Great!!!!

    How a I gonna show my kids how to flatten a penny now!!!
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Mosster47 said:

    Seattle to Portland, Sacramento to Bay Area, Bay Area to LA, LA to Vegas, LA to San Diego, Phoenix to LA, Phoenix to Vegas, Tucson to Phoenix. Skip the wasteland between Sacramento and Portland.

    Not enough riders to justify the ridiculous cost for all of these except possibly the Bay to LA.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Mosster47 said:

    Seattle to Portland, Sacramento to Bay Area, Bay Area to LA, LA to Vegas, LA to San Diego, Phoenix to LA, Phoenix to Vegas, Tucson to Phoenix. Skip the wasteland between Sacramento and Portland.

    Not enough riders to justify the ridiculous cost for all of these except possibly the Bay to LA.
    Dense urban areas only makes sense here. It works great in places like Japan, because no matter where you are, you're going to be sneezing on somebody.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795
    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
  • NEsnake12
    NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,795

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    Seattle light rail would be so much faster if it didn't have that ground level line through Rainier Valley.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    The California train is a great idea.

    Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

    The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

    This is not completely factual but still
    LA-SF high speed rail has to either go over a mountain range or along the coast through Santa Barbara. Only the mountain range option is under consideration. A white trash train from Bakersfield to Sacramento with a stop in Fresno works from an engineering standpoint but the redneck passengers couldn't pay the cost. The whole LA-SF high speed rail idea is asinine.
    *skills
    *analysis
    *education
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,070

    The California train is a great idea.

    Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

    The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

    This is not completely factual but still
    LA-SF high speed rail has to either go over a mountain range or along the coast through Santa Barbara. Only the mountain range option is under consideration. A white trash train from Bakersfield to Sacramento with a stop in Fresno works from an engineering standpoint but the redneck passengers couldn't pay the cost. The whole LA-SF high speed rail idea is asinine.
    *skills
    *analysis
    *education
    Excessive local veto power is also making a mockery of the project. Local groups in San Jose sued to block the portion of the rail that goes through San Jose (I think near Diridon Station) because they objected to the look of the architectural rendering of a particular rail bridge over a roadway.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    NEsnake12 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
    It won't help eliminate some traffic. The growth of Amazon, Expedia, etc. jobs downtown will just replace the cars on the freeway that will take the rail. That said, it's better than doing nothing with traffic.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    BearsWiin said:

    The California train is a great idea.

    Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

    The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

    This is not completely factual but still
    LA-SF high speed rail has to either go over a mountain range or along the coast through Santa Barbara. Only the mountain range option is under consideration. A white trash train from Bakersfield to Sacramento with a stop in Fresno works from an engineering standpoint but the redneck passengers couldn't pay the cost. The whole LA-SF high speed rail idea is asinine.
    *skills
    *analysis
    *education
    Excessive local veto power is also making a mockery of the project. Local groups in San Jose sued to block the portion of the rail that goes through San Jose (I think near Diridon Station) because they objected to the look of the architectural rendering of a particular rail bridge over a roadway.
    Why should communities allow this disruption when it gives them zero benefit?
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited February 2017
    No DUI when you catch an autonomous Uber drone or Uber Pool drone. On demand, cashless, 24/7/365, limitless possibilities. available technologically today. Buildout is instantaneous. Could quite literally begin deployment in a matter of days and begin immediate scaling.

    NO roads needed.

    Fixed rail is a fucking joke.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    doogie said:

    No DUI when you catch an autonomous Uber drone or Uber Pool drone. On demand, cashless, 24/7/365, limitless possibilities. available technologically today. Buildout is instantaneous. Could quite literally begin deployment in a matter of days and begin immediate scaling.

    NO roads needed.

    Fixed rail is a fucking joke.

    I like you because of this thread.
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    This doesn't mean you get to crawl into my sleeping bag at the HH camp out.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    2001400ex said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
    It won't help eliminate some traffic. The growth of Amazon, Expedia, etc. jobs downtown will just replace the cars on the freeway that will take the rail. That said, it's better than doing nothing with traffic.
    Amazon should make their employees ride bikes.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited February 2017
    2001400ex said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
    It won't help eliminate some traffic. The growth of Amazon, Expedia, etc. jobs downtown will just replace the cars on the freeway that will take the rail. That said, it's better than doing nothing with traffic.
    Amazon and jobs in the same paragraph, el oh el. Yeah Amazon will help with jobs and traffic. They will be putting so many more people out of work and into their basements that traffic won't be much of a concern in the future. #KillAmazon
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    2001400ex said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
    It won't help eliminate some traffic. The growth of Amazon, Expedia, etc. jobs downtown will just replace the cars on the freeway that will take the rail. That said, it's better than doing nothing with traffic.
    Amazon should make their employees ride bikes choke on a big chink dong.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,025
    edited February 2017

    2001400ex said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
    It won't help eliminate some traffic. The growth of Amazon, Expedia, etc. jobs downtown will just replace the cars on the freeway that will take the rail. That said, it's better than doing nothing with traffic.
    Amazon and jobs in the same paragraph, el oh el. Yeah Amazon will help with jobs and traffic. They will be putting so many more people out of work and into their basements that traffic won't be much of a concern in the future. #KillAmazon
    Please 'splain that. How is providing a distribution platform a job killer?

    Or are you talking their web services which provide tech guys with a means to do cool shit?



  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    2001400ex said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    2001400ex said:

    Mosster47 said:

    doogie said:

    When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

    It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

    If they are private the build time would be very low.
    Portland metro area resident here:

    Fixed rail lines are dumb.
    As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

    That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

    Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.
    2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.
    It won't help eliminate some traffic. The growth of Amazon, Expedia, etc. jobs downtown will just replace the cars on the freeway that will take the rail. That said, it's better than doing nothing with traffic.
    Amazon and jobs in the same paragraph, el oh el. Yeah Amazon will help with jobs and traffic. They will be putting so many more people out of work and into their basements that traffic won't be much of a concern in the future. #KillAmazon
    Please 'splain that. How is providing a distribution platform a job killer?

    Or are you talking their web services which provide tech guys with a means to do cool shit?



    I don't give a fuck about their Indian tech cunts. They can go back to Delhi and get fucked by Shiva. Sears, Macy's and others are closing a huge amount of stores. Malls are dying.