this is good

dhdawg

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-japan-idUSKBN15I0RS

high speed rail is awesome and we've needed for a while. hopefully it expands over time.

I don't know when the agreement was actually struck, but good either way.

RaceBannon

That's not a bad deal. I think trains are stupid out west but if Japan wants to put up the money and we get the jobs why not?

Northeast trains need to be upgraded and they get a lot of use. Japan sells their product.

Win - win

Time to stop the current Cali boondoggle super train.

GrundleStiltzkin

PurpleJ

Only train I ride is called TRUMP TRAIN. It's made in AMERICA and going to roll over your ASS.

Pitchfork51

The California train is a great idea.

Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

RaceBannon

Pitchfork51 said:

The California train is a great idea.

Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

This is not completely factual but still

Mosster47

Seattle to Portland, Sacramento to Bay Area, Bay Area to LA, LA to Vegas, LA to San Diego, Phoenix to LA, Phoenix to Vegas, Tucson to Phoenix. Skip the wasteland between Sacramento and Portland.

RaceBannon

They are trying LA to SF but nobody actually wants the train to run through their town or neighborhood

Kaepsknee

dhdawg said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-japan-idUSKBN15I0RS

high speed rail is awesome and we've needed for a while. hopefully it expands over time.

I don't know when the agreement was actually struck, but good either way.

Great!!!!

How a I gonna show my kids how to flatten a penny now!!!

doogie

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

dflea

salemcoog said:

dhdawg said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-japan-idUSKBN15I0RS

high speed rail is awesome and we've needed for a while. hopefully it expands over time.

I don't know when the agreement was actually struck, but good either way.

Great!!!!

How a I gonna show my kids how to flatten a penny now!!!

Put one on your forehead and have them hit it with a hammer.

Mosster47

doogie said:

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

If they are private the build time would be very low.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Mosster47 said:

Seattle to Portland, Sacramento to Bay Area, Bay Area to LA, LA to Vegas, LA to San Diego, Phoenix to LA, Phoenix to Vegas, Tucson to Phoenix. Skip the wasteland between Sacramento and Portland.

Not enough riders to justify the ridiculous cost for all of these except possibly the Bay to LA.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Mosster47 said:

doogie said:

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

If they are private the build time would be very low.

Portland metro area resident here:

Fixed rail lines are dumb.

greenblood

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Mosster47 said:

Seattle to Portland, Sacramento to Bay Area, Bay Area to LA, LA to Vegas, LA to San Diego, Phoenix to LA, Phoenix to Vegas, Tucson to Phoenix. Skip the wasteland between Sacramento and Portland.

Not enough riders to justify the ridiculous cost for all of these except possibly the Bay to LA.

Dense urban areas only makes sense here. It works great in places like Japan, because no matter where you are, you're going to be sneezing on somebody.

2001400ex

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Mosster47 said:

doogie said:

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

If they are private the build time would be very low.

Portland metro area resident here:

Fixed rail lines are dumb.

As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.

RaceBannon

2001400ex said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Mosster47 said:

doogie said:

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

If they are private the build time would be very low.

Portland metro area resident here:

Fixed rail lines are dumb.

As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.

See. Good post

Visitors like the trains in the cities you mentioned

But fixed rail technology is a couple centuries behind what we should be thinking of now

NEsnake12

2001400ex said:

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Mosster47 said:

doogie said:

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

If they are private the build time would be very low.

Portland metro area resident here:

Fixed rail lines are dumb.

As a visitor to Portland, I appreciate the rail lines. San Diego is cool too. No DUI when you can catch the light rail from gas lamp.

That being said, I've been on the rail from Albuquerque to Santa Fe and it's awful. I've used it in San Francisco and it works well there. The airport to downtown Seattle is nice but it's limited to just that basically.

Rail from San Fran to LA is dumb when there's 3 airports to the Bay area and 3 in LA area all with direct flights. Really across the west, rail doesn't make sense other than in some cities.

2021 they open the extension that goes all the way to Northgate, with midpoint stations at Roosevelt and the U-District. Should help eliminate some of the traffic shitshow on I-5 and also make it easier to get anywhere from the U-District without dealing with slow ass busses.

NEsnake12

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Mosster47 said:

doogie said:

When you stop and consider multi-passenger, on demand autonomous drone technology is in use and scaleable today, fixed point, fixed schedule choo choo train technology 20 years out seems rather silly.

It doesn't if you keep them above ground as a go between major metros that link to local rail transit.

If they are private the build time would be very low.

Portland metro area resident here:

Fixed rail lines are dumb.

Seattle light rail would be so much faster if it didn't have that ground level line through Rainier Valley.

CirrhosisDawg

RaceBannon said:

Pitchfork51 said:

The California train is a great idea.

Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

This is not completely factual but still

LA-SF high speed rail has to either go over a mountain range or along the coast through Santa Barbara. Only the mountain range option is under consideration. A white trash train from Bakersfield to Sacramento with a stop in Fresno works from an engineering standpoint but the redneck passengers couldn't pay the cost. The whole LA-SF high speed rail idea is asinine.
*skills
*analysis
*education

BearsWiin

CirrhosisDawg said:

RaceBannon said:

Pitchfork51 said:

The California train is a great idea.

Actually some trains out west wouldn't be too bad because the land is relatively flat and it doesn't go through mcuh development so it's cheaper.

The Cali train is already billions over budget and year behind schedule and so far has a route between Bakersfield and Fresno

This is not completely factual but still

LA-SF high speed rail has to either go over a mountain range or along the coast through Santa Barbara. Only the mountain range option is under consideration. A white trash train from Bakersfield to Sacramento with a stop in Fresno works from an engineering standpoint but the redneck passengers couldn't pay the cost. The whole LA-SF high speed rail idea is asinine.
*skills
*analysis
*education

Excessive local veto power is also making a mockery of the project. Local groups in San Jose sued to block the portion of the rail that goes through San Jose (I think near Diridon Station) because they objected to the look of the architectural rendering of a particular rail bridge over a roadway.