right to work for less

dhdawg

republicans trying to end unions for good.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/02/republicans-unions-right-to-work-bill?CMP=share_btn_tw

notice how no one ever actually runs on this before passing it?

RaceBannon

Unions suck. Burn them down and rebuild from the ashes. Unions are part of the establishment and take money from the worker while laying down for the bosses.

Every action has a reaction. Maybe a nice death will bring back REAL unions

dhdawg

RaceBannon said:

Unions suck. Burn them down and rebuild from the ashes. Unions are part of the establishment and take money from the worker while laying down for the bosses.

Every action has a reaction. Maybe a nice death will bring back REAL unions

at least you're honest. the amount of lying about what this law really does is maddening

RaceBannon

I'm honest because I have been around unions for 40 years. They fucked me over and then I have worked non union for companies that treated me like family. I can speak for myself.

Not only that I turned union workers into non union contractors and doubled their incomes.

Unions are lazy and run by idiots and they hate the rank and file

greenblood

There was a time when unions were absolutely necessary. But like a pendulum, unions got greedy and power hungry. Not only do some unions undermine employers but they undermine the workers they represent. In most cases, they create ineffective systems that disincentivizes a worker's performance.

It's illogical to create a system that length of employment outweighs performance. Teacher unions are a perfect example. You have some 20 year teachers sitting on their ass showing movie videos all day collecting 75k/year, while the 3rd year teacher down hall is working her ass off making 40k.

RaceBannon

The government is the main union now with worker protection. Unions exist to take worker money and give it to politicians

Sledog

https://nrtwc.org/facts-issues/national-right-to-work-act/



"The National Right to Work Act is a very simple bill with one purpose: To give individual workers the freedom to decide for themselves whether or not a labor union deserves their financial support, as they can for any other private organization.

The National Right to Work Act would not add a single word to federal law. It would simply repeal five provisions in the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) and one in the Railway Labor Act (RLA) that authorize the firing of workers for refusal to pay union dues or fees to union officials.

Under current federal law, unions can strip workers of the right to represent themselves, then force those workers to pay for the union’s so-called “representation,” which the workers don’t want, didn’t ask for and believe they would be better off without."

dhdawg

Sledog said:

https://nrtwc.org/facts-issues/national-right-to-work-act/



"The National Right to Work Act is a very simple bill with one purpose: To give individual workers the freedom to decide for themselves whether or not a labor union deserves their financial support, as they can for any other private organization.

The National Right to Work Act would not add a single word to federal law. It would simply repeal five provisions in the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) and one in the Railway Labor Act (RLA) that authorize the firing of workers for refusal to pay union dues or fees to union officials.

Under current federal law, unions can strip workers of the right to represent themselves, then force those workers to pay for the union’s so-called “representation,” which the workers don’t want, didn’t ask for and believe they would be better off without."

taft Hartley already made the ability to join the union optional.
Right to work is a scam in which people freeload off of the union who is still forced to offer representation to workers that don't pay dues.
doesn't surprise me that your "source" doesn't say that tho.

It's a scam to destroy unions. if you are for that, like race, just say it.

dhdawg

If you guys really think unions are just parasites why do right to work states have on average worse wages worse benefits far worse working conditions?

TierbsHsotBoobs

RaceBannon said:

Unions suck. Burn them down and rebuild from the ashes. Unions are part of the establishment and take money from the worker while laying down for the bosses.

Every action has a reaction. Maybe a nice death will bring back REAL unions

You've got the Bannon talking points down.

Kudos.

GrundleStiltzkin

My body, my choice.

AlCzervik

Damn straight. Once unions are out of the way we can get back to paying 10-year-olds $1.25 for a 14-hour workday and start exporting shoes, cell phones, and golf clubs to China and Mexico. Then Mexico will beg us to let them pay for the wall. Triple win for 'Merica!

Southerndawg

AlCzervik said:

Damn straight. Once unions are out of the way we can get back to paying 10-year-olds $1.25 for a 14-hour workday and start exporting shoes, cell phones, and golf clubs to China and Mexico. Then Mexico will beg us to let them pay for the wall. Triple win for 'Merica!

https://youtu.be/n8HGTmANHyU

AlCzervik

Southerndawg said:

AlCzervik said:

Damn straight. Once unions are out of the way we can get back to paying 10-year-olds $1.25 for a 14-hour workday and start exporting shoes, cell phones, and golf clubs to China and Mexico. Then Mexico will beg us to let them pay for the wall. Triple win for 'Merica!

https://youtu.be/n8HGTmANHyU

Southerndawg said:

AlCzervik said:

Damn straight. Once unions are out of the way we can get back to paying 10-year-olds $1.25 for a 14-hour workday and start exporting shoes, cell phones, and golf clubs to China and Mexico. Then Mexico will beg us to let them pay for the wall. Triple win for 'Merica!

https://youtu.be/n8HGTmANHyU

I preferred the Dirty Deeds video

2001400ex

RaceBannon said:

I'm honest because I have been around unions for 40 years. They fucked me over and then I have worked non union for companies that treated me like family. I can speak for myself.

Not only that I turned union workers into non union contractors and doubled their incomes.

Unions are lazy and run by idiots and they hate the rank and file

It's almost like you already have a choice in America to work for union or a family run business.

greenblood

AlCzervik said:

Damn straight. Once unions are out of the way we can get back to paying 10-year-olds $1.25 for a 14-hour workday and start exporting shoes, cell phones, and golf clubs to China and Mexico. Then Mexico will beg us to let them pay for the wall. Triple win for 'Merica!

That's the other extreme. Let's try and shoot for the middle

Sledog

Or you can not pay union dues and get fired. Not because of job performance but because you didn't want to pay the democrat/liberal union. I don't hear anyone pissing about police and fire unions that aren't allowed to strike or ability to stage any work actions or actually have free speech. Oh yeah forgot it's the left (IE: commies nowadays) and they hate police and fire or any form of authority except them if they are running the government. Then they'll want to execute you.

Kaepsknee

AlCzervik said:

Damn straight. Once unions are out of the way we can get back to paying 10-year-olds $1.25 for a 14-hour workday and start exporting shoes, cell phones, and golf clubs to China and Mexico. Then Mexico will beg us to let them pay for the wall. Triple win for 'Merica!

Just stfu already you bleeding gash.

Pitchfork51

greenblood said:

There was a time when unions were absolutely necessary. But like a pendulum, unions got greedy and power hungry. Not only do some unions undermine employers but they undermine the workers they represent. In most cases, they create ineffective systems that disincentivizes a worker's performance.

It's illogical to create a system that length of employment outweighs performance. Teacher unions are a perfect example. You have some 20 year teachers sitting on their ass showing movie videos all day collecting 75k/year, while the 3rd year teacher down hall is working her ass off making 40k.

3rd year teacher down the hall sounds pretty hot. Wood hit.

2001400ex

Pitchfork51 said:

greenblood said:

There was a time when unions were absolutely necessary. But like a pendulum, unions got greedy and power hungry. Not only do some unions undermine employers but they undermine the workers they represent. In most cases, they create ineffective systems that disincentivizes a worker's performance.

It's illogical to create a system that length of employment outweighs performance. Teacher unions are a perfect example. You have some 20 year teachers sitting on their ass showing movie videos all day collecting 75k/year, while the 3rd year teacher down hall is working her ass off making 40k.

3rd year teacher down the hall sounds pretty hot. Wood hit.

Does she sleep with 9th graders? Asking for @backthepack

Fire_Marshall_Bill

plenty of fucked up, corrupt, greedy ass unions and plenty still have mob ties

that doesn't mean we should weaken them even more. Jesus Christ. People have the right to collectively bargain for better wages, safety, fewer hours etc. Union membership went from over 30 percent to like 8 now (that might be private sector, too tired and lazy to look it up). I've lived in both a strong union state and a right to work state. DHDawg is 100% correct. Right to work is total scam propagated by corrupt right wing fags who don't give two shits about the middle class or most of their constituents really.