trump buying into the big pharma bs?
Yikes. Negotiating down drug prices was one of the few good things that he said he'd support.
Of course he talks about tax breaks. Cause that's otally What They need. More profit
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Obama and the Demorats sure did
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selling out to pharma is one of the few things in Washington with bipartisan supportdoogie said:Obama and the Demorats sure did
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Selling out period. This particular story probably needs a little more time to get some actual facts in there though
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I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
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People need to stop using legal drugs. Way over prescribed
Unfortunately my dentist is trying to stop the oxy addiction plague and tells me to use advil. Fucker -
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
Big pharma is destroying America.
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Why ? Not for our purposesRaceBannon said:This particular story probably needs a little more time to get some actual facts in there though
We just wany to engage in juvenile name calling about that fake orange haired narcissistic sociopath... -
I recall seeing some numbers several months back that indicate pharma companies spend significantly more on advertising than they do on R&D; the "we need to rape you on the drugs that work to pay for the drugs that don't" argument doesn't hold water.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
yes. they spend gobs on overhead and use it to justify their price gouging. We should either be allowed to negotiate with medicare or import from countries that do. We're allowed neither. Why? Cause the gov't is completely bought outBearsWiin said:
I recall seeing some numbers several months back that indicate pharma companies spend significantly more on advertising than they do on R&D; the "we need to rape you on the drugs that work to pay for the drugs that don't" argument doesn't hold water.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
The bigger issue is that our country gets charged more for the same drugs as other countries.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
Agreed.RaceBannon said:People need to stop using legal drugs. Way over prescribed
Unfortunately my dentist is trying to stop the oxy addiction plague and tells me to use advil. Fucker
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There's truth in that. As I noted indirectly in my OXY and aspirin example. When an insurance company is involved, they charge way more.greenblood said:
The bigger issue is that our country gets charged more for the same drugs as other countries.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
So let's make everyone have to buy insurance2001400ex said:
There's truth in that. As I noted indirectly in my OXY and aspirin example. When an insurance company is involved, they charge way more.greenblood said:
The bigger issue is that our country gets charged more for the same drugs as other countries.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market.
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They charge so much because people without insurance don't pay causing everyone with insurance to pay too much. Are you really that dumb? Have you ever wondered why the cash price is half the insurance price?RaceBannon said:
So let's make everyone have to buy insurance2001400ex said:
There's truth in that. As I noted indirectly in my OXY and aspirin example. When an insurance company is involved, they charge way more.greenblood said:
The bigger issue is that our country gets charged more for the same drugs as other countries.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market.
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And Bannon/Trump have decided to continue this arrangement.greenblood said:
The bigger issue is that our country gets charged more for the same drugs as other countries.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
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Years ago, I worked in sales and sales management for two different pharmaceutical companies. The pay and benefits were fantastic and the amount of actual work I did was negligible. The sales forces for big pharma are gigantic and add nothing to the quality or availability of health care. But I did make a shitload of money.BearsWiin said:
I recall seeing some numbers several months back that indicate pharma companies spend significantly more on advertising than they do on R&D; the "we need to rape you on the drugs that work to pay for the drugs that don't" argument doesn't hold water.2001400ex said:
The issue with drugs. They invest in hundreds of drugs but only a few hit. So they have to pay for the losers from the winners, which makes it difficult to assess profitablity like that.Fenderbender123 said:I'd like to see how much the drug companies are profiting per pill. If a company makes a billion dollars profit, but sells 20 billion pills, I can't see how they can afford to significantly lower prices. In that case, tax cuts and deregulation make sense if it gives them the breathing room necessary to make those cuts.
That being said, charging $35 in the ER for one aspirin is dumb. But if you buy OXY, it costs $8 after insurance for a bottle but the pills go for $50 a pill in the black market. -
Your President supports this system.PurpleJ said:The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
And legalize cocaine, shrooms and weed while we're at it.
Get in line with TRUMP or LEAVE. -
Some of us can see past simple politics. The fact that you can't tells me all I need to know.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Your President supports this system.PurpleJ said:The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
And legalize cocaine, shrooms and weed while we're at it.
Get in line with TRUMP or LEAVE.
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You sound like Hondo.PurpleJ said:
Some of us can see past simple politics. The fact that you can't tells me all I need to know.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Your President supports this system.PurpleJ said:The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
And legalize cocaine, shrooms and weed while we're at it.
Get in line with TRUMP or LEAVE. -
Not really.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You sound like Hondo.PurpleJ said:
Some of us can see past simple politics. The fact that you can't tells me all I need to know.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Your President supports this system.PurpleJ said:The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
And legalize cocaine, shrooms and weed while we're at it.
Get in line with TRUMP or LEAVE.
What happened to you?
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See?PurpleJ said:
Not really.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You sound like Hondo.PurpleJ said:
Some of us can see past simple politics. The fact that you can't tells me all I need to know.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Your President supports this system.PurpleJ said:The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
And legalize cocaine, shrooms and weed while we're at it.
Get in line with TRUMP or LEAVE.
What happened to you?
That's how Hondo would respond. -
Sounds like your dentist is doing you a favor.RaceBannon said:People need to stop using legal drugs. Way over prescribed
Unfortunately my dentist is trying to stop the oxy addiction plague and tells me to use advil. Fucker
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Most ironic post everTierbsHsotBoobs said:
You sound like Hondo.PurpleJ said:
Some of us can see past simple politics. The fact that you can't tells me all I need to know.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Your President supports this system.PurpleJ said:The patent system for drugs is fucked. More generics please.
And legalize cocaine, shrooms and weed while we're at it.
Get in line with TRUMP or LEAVE. -
Vicodin, weed, and wine is a hell of a cocktailThomasFremont said:
Sounds like your dentist is doing you a favor.RaceBannon said:People need to stop using legal drugs. Way over prescribed
Unfortunately my dentist is trying to stop the oxy addiction plague and tells me to use advil. Fucker
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You were smart to wait, Race. Here is what was actually covered in the meeting with Big pharma, Trumps 6 points on healthcare.RaceBannon said:Selling out period. This particular story probably needs a little more time to get some actual facts in there though
First, the prices of existing medical drugs are too high.
Second, other countries have been freeloading on Uncle Sam.
Third, the best way to reduce prices is to expand supply.
Fourth, the best way to to expand supply is to cut taxes and deregulate.
Fifth, more drug production ought to occur inside the United States.
Sixth, the single best way to improve health is by developing new medical cures.
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TL, DR:doogie said:
You were smart to wait, Race. Here is what was actually covered in the meeting with Big pharma, Trumps 6 points on healthcare.RaceBannon said:Selling out period. This particular story probably needs a little more time to get some actual facts in there though
First, the prices of existing medical drugs are too high.
Second, other countries have been freeloading on Uncle Sam.
Third, the best way to reduce prices is to expand supply.
Fourth, the best way to to expand supply is to cut taxes and deregulate.
Fifth, more drug production ought to occur inside the United States.
Sixth, the single best way to improve health is by developing new medical cures.
source: President Trump
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Shrooms, green dragon and wine go well together. Acid is the shit though. Too bad it's so hard to find.
