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Sarkisian is Charlie Weis without the BCS bowl blowout losses
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For a boring Monday night.
Let's see:
-- Both coaches had zero head coaching experience prior to taking the job
-- Both coaches came from being the OC at a powerful football dynasty (Parcels' Patriots/Carroll's Trojans), where the defense arguably was just as big of a reason as the offense for their success. Also both coaches enjoyed having more talent than literally 100% of the opponents they faced. ALSO the Patriots and Trojans cheated.
-- Both coaches inherited a tier 1 once-proud program in shambles from one Tyrone Lionel Willingham. UW was reeling off a nightmarish 0-12 season. ND OL recruiting was at death sentence levels and they had been blown out more times in three years than the past forty years combined.
-- Both coaches talked a big game upon being hired. Sark said "this won't take long", Weis said 6-5 is never good enough.
-- Both coaches were considered prodigies of offense. Weis and his 'decided schematic advantage', Sark and his 'best play caller in America.'
-- Both coaches luckily inherited a local stud upperclassmen talent at QB (Brady Quinn/Jake Locker), whose NFL stock rose considerably under the new coach's tutorship. While fan favorites, Locker and Quinn ultimately underwhelmed in college and their NFL careers are proving the doubters true.
-- Both coaches suffered from piss poor special teams play.
-- Both coaches went 0-5 against their arch rivals.
-- Both coaches are ultimately ~.500 W%-level coaches
-- Both coaches got way too much credit for a season 1 game they f*****g LOST! Sark's loss to LSU in 2009/Weis' "bush push" game in 2005
-- Both coaches were unwilling or unable to emphasize the OL, to the point where rival schools would negatively recruit against them; saying none of their OL ever make it to the league, and that the position coach is a screamer, not a teacher.
-- Both coaches grab-bagged with their defense, replacing coaches and schemes in a 'throw it on the wall and see what sticks' sort of way.
-- Both coaches ignited a massive schism in their respective fanbases, with the more pollyanna groups clinging to the 'it's still all Willingham's fault in year 5' with the more realistic groups in the 'we are what we are' camp.
Sark: 13 blowout (17 or more point) losses*
Weis: 7 blowout (17 or more point ) losses
* Sark's 5th year isn't even over yet, more plungers could be on the way
My girlfriend is a ND graduate so I know way more than I should about that program. I just found the parallel very interesting and disturbingly similar.
tl;dr
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Let's see:
-- Both coaches had zero head coaching experience prior to taking the job
-- Both coaches came from being the OC at a powerful football dynasty (Parcels' Patriots/Carroll's Trojans), where the defense arguably was just as big of a reason as the offense for their success. Also both coaches enjoyed having more talent than literally 100% of the opponents they faced. ALSO the Patriots and Trojans cheated.
-- Both coaches inherited a tier 1 once-proud program in shambles from one Tyrone Lionel Willingham. UW was reeling off a nightmarish 0-12 season. ND OL recruiting was at death sentence levels and they had been blown out more times in three years than the past forty years combined.
-- Both coaches talked a big game upon being hired. Sark said "this won't take long", Weis said 6-5 is never good enough.
-- Both coaches were considered prodigies of offense. Weis and his 'decided schematic advantage', Sark and his 'best play caller in America.'
-- Both coaches luckily inherited a local stud upperclassmen talent at QB (Brady Quinn/Jake Locker), whose NFL stock rose considerably under the new coach's tutorship. While fan favorites, Locker and Quinn ultimately underwhelmed in college and their NFL careers are proving the doubters true.
-- Both coaches suffered from piss poor special teams play.
-- Both coaches went 0-5 against their arch rivals.
-- Both coaches are ultimately ~.500 W%-level coaches
-- Both coaches got way too much credit for a season 1 game they f*****g LOST! Sark's loss to LSU in 2009/Weis' "bush push" game in 2005
-- Both coaches were unwilling or unable to emphasize the OL, to the point where rival schools would negatively recruit against them; saying none of their OL ever make it to the league, and that the position coach is a screamer, not a teacher.
-- Both coaches grab-bagged with their defense, replacing coaches and schemes in a 'throw it on the wall and see what sticks' sort of way.
-- Both coaches ignited a massive schism in their respective fanbases, with the more pollyanna groups clinging to the 'it's still all Willingham's fault in year 5' with the more realistic groups in the 'we are what we are' camp.
Sark: 13 blowout (17 or more point) losses*
Weis: 7 blowout (17 or more point ) losses
* Sark's 5th year isn't even over yet, more plungers could be on the way
My girlfriend is a ND graduate so I know way more than I should about that program. I just found the parallel very interesting and disturbingly similar.
tl;dr
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Comments
Also Weis didn't really 'implode' his last year. He went a ho-hum 6-6 with a close loss to USC, a blowout loss to Navy (? what), and the 118th rated defense. Just the same .500ish mediocre bullshit.
edit: that 6-6 team had Michael Floyd, Golden Tate, and Kyle Rudolph on offense? Weis really sucked. Then again, Sark this year has Sankey, ASJ, and Kasen. DIAF. Or something.
Also some of their defenses were ranked in the 20's ( I know he's an o. coordinator but just throwing it out).
Other than that there are a lot of parallels. Sark seems to be more of a people person.
Both programs are has-beens living off of past glories. I know ND made it to the title game last year but that was a fluke.
I really do miss WASHINGTON, dammit.
I'd kill for that season again.