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If I could sign up for Rick Neuheisel's four years again I would in a second. So yes him only being able to coach 10 years wouldn't scare me.RoadDawg55 said:
Fuck, 10 years of good coaching would be great. I understand the point, but this isn't a huge rebuild. This is a situation where championships would be expected in year one.He_Needs_More_Time said:
I think people are scared that he's already 55 so at most you are getting 20 years out of him. More likely to only get 10 years.RoadDawg55 said:The more I think about it, the more I like Craig Bohl. Defensive minded coach who has seen a BCS championship program first hand (so has Sark, but still). The difference is Bohl has won 2 national championships as a head coach, and is ranked #1 right now. The only negative with him is one 3-8 season, but Tressell had a couple losing season at Youngstown State as well. The most points Bohl has given up the past 3 years is 27. I'm surprised a Big 10 or Big 12 school has not snatched this guy up yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Bohl
However, I think given his track record and recent upset of K-State someone will snatch him up.
However, I'm not an A.D or a school president. I think his age is a big reason why nobody has snatched him up.
Unfortunately, a lot of schools(UW especially) put a lot of emphasis on KICK ASS! pressers, how you energize your fan base, recruiting, being "cool" with social media, etc.
When it should be strictly about winning games. -
James at Kent St requires a little bit of digging. What was their history like before James arrived? Are we acting like the National Guard never happened?He_Needs_More_Time said:
1971 Kent State 3–8 0–5 6th
1972 Kent State 6–5–1 4–1 1st L Tangerine
1973 Kent State 9–2 4–1 2nd
1974 Kent State 7–4 2–3 T–4th
Kent State: 25–19–1 10–10
His record was middling but he was on the way up as you can see there was significant improvement from his last two years vs his first two years.
While Paul Wulff here was his record at Eastern.
2000 Eastern Washington 6–5 5–2 5th
2001 Eastern Washington 7–4 3–4 5th
2002 Eastern Washington 6–5 3–4 4th
2003 Eastern Washington 6–5 3–4 6th
2004 Eastern Washington 9–4 6–1 T–1st L Div. I-AA Quarterfinals
2005 Eastern Washington 7–5 5–2 T–1st L Div. I-AA 1st round
2006 Eastern Washington 3–8 2–5 T–6th
2007 Eastern Washington 9–4 5–2 2nd L Div. I FCS Quarterfinals
Eastern Washington: 53–40 32–24
He was there for a while and was pretty average including going 3-8 in his 7th season. I'd say the situations were different.
Seriously though, you can see where he was trending upward and building upon his results.
Wulff's record at EWU looks very similar to Sark's ceiling. Lots of mediocrity with a special 9 win season sprinkled in often enough to excite the doogs. -
Kent State has never had history like Race pointed out they only went to their second bowl game ever last year. The first being with James. James had the ship going upward as you can see.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
James at Kent St requires a little bit of digging. What was their history like before James arrived? Are we acting like the National Guard never happened?He_Needs_More_Time said:
1971 Kent State 3–8 0–5 6th
1972 Kent State 6–5–1 4–1 1st L Tangerine
1973 Kent State 9–2 4–1 2nd
1974 Kent State 7–4 2–3 T–4th
Kent State: 25–19–1 10–10
His record was middling but he was on the way up as you can see there was significant improvement from his last two years vs his first two years.
While Paul Wulff here was his record at Eastern.
2000 Eastern Washington 6–5 5–2 5th
2001 Eastern Washington 7–4 3–4 5th
2002 Eastern Washington 6–5 3–4 4th
2003 Eastern Washington 6–5 3–4 6th
2004 Eastern Washington 9–4 6–1 T–1st L Div. I-AA Quarterfinals
2005 Eastern Washington 7–5 5–2 T–1st L Div. I-AA 1st round
2006 Eastern Washington 3–8 2–5 T–6th
2007 Eastern Washington 9–4 5–2 2nd L Div. I FCS Quarterfinals
Eastern Washington: 53–40 32–24
He was there for a while and was pretty average including going 3-8 in his 7th season. I'd say the situations were different.
Seriously though, you can see where he was trending upward and building upon his results.
Wulff's record at EWU looks very similar to Sark's ceiling. Lots of mediocrity with a special 9 win season sprinkled in often enough to excite the doogs.
While Wulff was the Sark of the Big Sky. Very average and finished outside the top 3 in five of his eight years there. Was 5th or worse in 50% of his seasons.
I'm all for hiring a lower level coach but if he's been there as long as Wulff! was I would have liked to have seen him start dominating opponents. -
This part is very important to me if you're going after a lower-level guy.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Kent State has never had history like Race pointed out they only went to their second bowl game ever last year. The first being with James. James had the ship going upward as you can see.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
James at Kent St requires a little bit of digging. What was their history like before James arrived? Are we acting like the National Guard never happened?He_Needs_More_Time said:
1971 Kent State 3–8 0–5 6th
1972 Kent State 6–5–1 4–1 1st L Tangerine
1973 Kent State 9–2 4–1 2nd
1974 Kent State 7–4 2–3 T–4th
Kent State: 25–19–1 10–10
His record was middling but he was on the way up as you can see there was significant improvement from his last two years vs his first two years.
While Paul Wulff here was his record at Eastern.
2000 Eastern Washington 6–5 5–2 5th
2001 Eastern Washington 7–4 3–4 5th
2002 Eastern Washington 6–5 3–4 4th
2003 Eastern Washington 6–5 3–4 6th
2004 Eastern Washington 9–4 6–1 T–1st L Div. I-AA Quarterfinals
2005 Eastern Washington 7–5 5–2 T–1st L Div. I-AA 1st round
2006 Eastern Washington 3–8 2–5 T–6th
2007 Eastern Washington 9–4 5–2 2nd L Div. I FCS Quarterfinals
Eastern Washington: 53–40 32–24
He was there for a while and was pretty average including going 3-8 in his 7th season. I'd say the situations were different.
Seriously though, you can see where he was trending upward and building upon his results.
Wulff's record at EWU looks very similar to Sark's ceiling. Lots of mediocrity with a special 9 win season sprinkled in often enough to excite the doogs.
While Wulff was the Sark of the Big Sky. Very average and finished outside the top 3 in five of his eight years there. Was 5th or worse in 50% of his seasons.
I'm all for hiring a lower level coach but if he's been there as long as Wulff! was I would have liked to have seen him start dominating opponents. -
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Good call on DeRuyter.
My short list in order, all reasonable:
Tim DeRuyter
Kyle Whittingham
Rod Carey -
That's been my favorite for a while. I remember a certain banned LOSER giving me shit for bringing him up.TommySQC said: -
Pass on wittingham. He has gotten his ass kicked by sark multiple times. I have seen him make brutal hires for assistants too.
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No to Whittingham
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1971 Kent State 3–8 0–5 6th
1972 Kent State 6–5–1 4–1 1st L Tangerine
Coaches that went to the Tangerine Bowl in their second year turned out pretty well. Here's a nice old interview, who would of known at the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDebAiNgEAM
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