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Abraham Lucas

RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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Getting my Friday night TBS on and came across this guy. Coog commit from Archbishop Murphy that may be defecting to Cal. Watched the film and thought he looked good.

I realize UW can't take everyone, but what was the deal with him? 24/7 has him rated higher than Bainivulu although Bain has a much more impressive offer list.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    Very Old Testament name. @jecornel would not approve.
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    CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    I know Dennis was a fan of his. He's not as good as 247 says (I think they have him higher rated than AVT too). I'd rather have Ford and Norgaard, but if we miss on Ford I'd be ok with offering him. I agree he has good film.
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    CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    Getting my Friday night TBS on and came across this guy. Coog commit from Archbishop Murphy that may be defecting to Cal. Watched the film and thought he looked good.

    I realize UW can't take everyone, but what was the deal with him? 24/7 has him rated higher than Bainivulu although Bain has a much more impressive offer list.

    Regardless, he shouldn't go to WSU.
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    hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,343
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    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    I know Dennis was a fan of his. He's not as good as 247 says (I think they have him higher rated than AVT too). I'd rather have Ford and Norgaard, but if we miss on Ford I'd be ok with offering him. I agree he has good film.

    I forgot about AVT. USC really took our lunch money this year.

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    dongmandongman Member Posts: 2,384
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    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,448
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    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
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    dongmandongman Member Posts: 2,384
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    whatshouldicareabout said:

    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
    Mike Leach and his staff are pretty decent at developing their recruits, and 8 wins is the ceiling. Have to move to the next level of talent.
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    backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,796
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    whatshouldicareabout said:

    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
    This ain't the WAC anymore.
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    dongmandongman Member Posts: 2,384
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    whatshouldicareabout said:

    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
    The other issue with this is, Pete is a great game day coach. So when he played the big guys he had his team ready, and mostly came out ahead. But he played a season schedule full of mid-low tier teams. Pac12 conference play is a whole different game, as well as the playoffs. To survive a nine game conference schedule, plus playoffs, and pre season quality teams (necessary for top four post season play), you need depth, and good depth. Recruiting is the number one for depth.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    whatshouldicareabout said:

    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
    This is something that people forget. Those teams with a few 4 stars sprinkled could have won a title.
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    Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
    This is something that people forget. Those teams with a few 4 stars sprinkled could have won a title.
    Another thing people forget is that if those roster had 75% 4-star kids they would've killed everyone.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    Dennis_DeYoung said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    dongman said:

    You can't win a natty with WSU recruits as your building blocks.

    Or you can and just develop the players like what Petersen did at BSU
    This is something that people forget. Those teams with a few 4 stars sprinkled could have won a title.
    Another thing people forget is that if those roster had 75% 4-star kids they would've killed everyone.
    If your roster is over 50% 4star, you should be a fucking powerhouse.
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    DawgFaderDawgFader Member Posts: 1,414
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    Check out the star levels for the CFP teams. The Dawgs had by far the fewest highly rated players. Which in turn means we don't have the depth needed to be competitive year in and year out on a national level yet. Keep adding more 4 stars than 3 stars a year and that problem will take care of itself.

    Prime Example: Nick Harris had a nice year but who did he beat out? Oh yeah right, nobody. Coulda used some extra depth / talent so we wouldn't be stuck playing undersized true freshmen. Or at the very least he's beating someone oit that can make him earn it. That type of depth will help is compete at the end of the year, once the season has taken its toll.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    DawgFader said:

    Check out the star levels for the CFP teams. The Dawgs had by far the fewest highly rated players. Which in turn means we don't have the depth needed to be competitive year in and year out on a national level yet. Keep adding more 4 stars than 3 stars a year and that problem will take care of itself.

    Prime Example: Nick Harris had a nice year but who did he beat out? Oh yeah right, nobody. Coulda used some extra depth / talent so we wouldn't be stuck playing undersized true freshmen. Or at the very least he's beating someone oit that can make him earn it. That type of depth will help is compete at the end of the year, once the season has taken its toll.

    You are right, but the starting defense, which was a championship level defense had only two 4 star guys.

    Budda and Qualls.

    At the end of the day, just win.
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    CokeGreaterThanPepsiCokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    DawgFader said:

    Check out the star levels for the CFP teams. The Dawgs had by far the fewest highly rated players. Which in turn means we don't have the depth needed to be competitive year in and year out on a national level yet. Keep adding more 4 stars than 3 stars a year and that problem will take care of itself.

    Prime Example: Nick Harris had a nice year but who did he beat out? Oh yeah right, nobody. Coulda used some extra depth / talent so we wouldn't be stuck playing undersized true freshmen. Or at the very least he's beating someone oit that can make him earn it. That type of depth will help is compete at the end of the year, once the season has taken its toll.

    You are right, but the starting defense, which was a championship level defense had only two 4 star guys.

    Budda and Qualls.

    At the end of the day, just win.
    Yup! Can get even better!
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    Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    DawgFader said:

    Check out the star levels for the CFP teams. The Dawgs had by far the fewest highly rated players. Which in turn means we don't have the depth needed to be competitive year in and year out on a national level yet. Keep adding more 4 stars than 3 stars a year and that problem will take care of itself.

    Prime Example: Nick Harris had a nice year but who did he beat out? Oh yeah right, nobody. Coulda used some extra depth / talent so we wouldn't be stuck playing undersized true freshmen. Or at the very least he's beating someone oit that can make him earn it. That type of depth will help is compete at the end of the year, once the season has taken its toll.

    You are right, but the starting defense, which was a championship level defense had only two 4 star guys.

    Budda and Qualls.

    At the end of the day, just win.
    Shame we missed on Daeshon Hall and Harlow and huh?
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    BasemanBaseman Member Posts: 12,365
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    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    I know Dennis was a fan of his. He's not as good as 247 says (I think they have him higher rated than AVT too). I'd rather have Ford and Norgaard, but if we miss on Ford I'd be ok with offering him. I agree he has good film.

    If DDY is out, I'm out.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    dnc said:

    Baseman said:

    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    I know Dennis was a fan of his. He's not as good as 247 says (I think they have him higher rated than AVT too). I'd rather have Ford and Norgaard, but if we miss on Ford I'd be ok with offering him. I agree he has good film.

    If DDY is out, I'm out.
    DDY's been out for years, where you been?

    #Pride #LoveWins #BornThisWay
    Dude, you are ruining his coming out party.
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