Early Pete > Early Dabo
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Couldn't of used a cuter girl instead of this dyke?TTJ said:Pressing.
There are better comps for Pete than Dabo. -
Programs that I view as having legitimate opportunities to win a National Championship by conference (blue bloods being bolded as they have the best shots when all things line up right for them:
PAC12
USC
Washington
UCLA
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10
Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Michigan St
Wisconsin
SEC
Alabama
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Texas A&M
Auburn
Tennessee
ACC
Florida St
Notre Dame
Clemson
Miami
Virginia Tech
It's possible for some other programs to jump in from time to time, but at this point, these are the programs that I see as having some combination of the requisite size, support, recruiting capabilities, etc. to be National Championship caliber programs on a consistent basis. Toughest calls for me were leaving Georgia and Clemson off of being blue bloods as they have a lot of things going for them but they need a good amount to go right for them to be legit national championship caliber programs. -
No ASU? Ha haTequilla said:Programs that I view as having legitimate opportunities to win a National Championship by conference (blue bloods being bolded as they have the best shots when all things line up right for them:
PAC12
USC
Washington
UCLA
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10
Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Michigan St
Wisconsin
SEC
Alabama
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Texas A&M
Auburn
Tennessee
ACC
Florida St
Notre Dame
Clemson
Miami
Virginia Tech
It's possible for some other programs to jump in from time to time, but at this point, these are the programs that I see as having some combination of the requisite size, support, recruiting capabilities, etc. to be National Championship caliber programs on a consistent basis. Toughest calls for me were leaving Georgia and Clemson off of being blue bloods as they have a lot of things going for them but they need a good amount to go right for them to be legit national championship caliber programs. -
Did a little truth editing for you. No charge. You're welcome.YellowSnow said:Dabo Year 3.5 (2011)
- 10 & 4 overall; 6- 2 in ACC
- 2nd place in ACC
- plungered in Orange Bowl 33- 70 by WVU
- #22 final ranking
Pete Year 3
-12 & 2 overall; 8- 1 in weakest PAC in years;
- win conference title
- plungered, anal assaulted, bung hole bombarded and generally outclassed by an Alabama team with a retard QB and no big-play receivers who coasted through a down SEC confrunce
- #4 Final generous AP rank based on reputation and name
2016 Washington > 2011 Climpson
Dabo is obviously an elite coach and has a Natty (after only 8 seasons for trying for crying out loud) in the trophy case, but Pete's early returns are objectively better; and by "objectively", I mean in my head. And I would argue Pete stepped into a harder "return a program to dominance" job than Dabo.
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Look, I know you're fucking stupid. But all Cane joking aside, do you not realize that, even though they have been tripping over their lips for the last 14 years, Miami still has more impact players in the NFL than ANY OTHER PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY? Yes, more than LSU, Ohio State, USC, Alabama, Florida State ... any of them. And most of the 2001 guys are out of the league now.Tequilla said:Programs that I view as having legitimate opportunities to win a National Championship by conference (blue bloods being bolded as they have the best shots when all things line up right for them:
PAC12
USC
Washington
UCLA
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10
Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Michigan St
Wisconsin
SEC
Alabama
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Texas A&M
Auburn
Tennessee
ACC
Florida St
Notre Dame
Clemson
Miami
Virginia Tech
It's possible for some other programs to jump in from time to time, but at this point, these are the programs that I see as having some combination of the requisite size, support, recruiting capabilities, etc. to be National Championship caliber programs on a consistent basis. Toughest calls for me were leaving Georgia and Clemson off of being blue bloods as they have a lot of things going for them but they need a good amount to go right for them to be legit national championship caliber programs.
As shitty as they've been, and they have been butt stink shitty, they routinely throw first, second and third round guys into the NFL, and those guys blow the fuck up when they get there.
How is it that you can't perceive a scenario where THAT program, with all its history and accomplishment, can't consistently compete for a title, but Texas can???????? Texas has all the shit you listed, and has always had it, and look at them. Before 2005, nobody under the age of 40 knew that they had ever been good. And 2005 was 12 years ago and they haven't done shit since.
It ain't about the money dummy. Oregon has proven that. It ain't about the size of your stadium and how many asses are in the seats. Michigan has proven that. Nebraska has proven that.
It's about who you can recruit and who is coaching them. Alabama has proven that. USC has proven that. LSU has proven that. Florida State has proven that.
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Hey fuck youYellowSnow said:
No ASU? Ha haTequilla said:Programs that I view as having legitimate opportunities to win a National Championship by conference (blue bloods being bolded as they have the best shots when all things line up right for them:
PAC12
USC
Washington
UCLA
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10
Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Michigan St
Wisconsin
SEC
Alabama
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Texas A&M
Auburn
Tennessee
ACC
Florida St
Notre Dame
Clemson
Miami
Virginia Tech
It's possible for some other programs to jump in from time to time, but at this point, these are the programs that I see as having some combination of the requisite size, support, recruiting capabilities, etc. to be National Championship caliber programs on a consistent basis. Toughest calls for me were leaving Georgia and Clemson off of being blue bloods as they have a lot of things going for them but they need a good amount to go right for them to be legit national championship caliber programs. -
Miami hasn't been a consistent national player in 15 years now ...
For the reasons you mentioned is why I have them on the list as one of the approx 20 programs where national championships aren't surprising ...
There are a lot of really good programs that I don't have on the list -
Except you included Penn State, Notre Dame and Texas. If the standard is "consistent national player," there really are only a handful of schools you can list. Everyone disappears for a while. USC was gone in the 90s, came back from 2000 until they blew up mid-decade, and are working their way back again.Tequilla said:Miami hasn't been a consistent national player in 15 years now ...
For the reasons you mentioned is why I have them on the list as one of the approx 20 programs where national championships aren't surprising ...
There are a lot of really good programs that I don't have on the list
There has been nothing consistent about Notre Dame since the late 80s.
Texas, putting them there is 100% on potential, and you know it, because there is simply nothing else to point to. And once you go there, Miami HAS to be included because of their history and because of who they can get in the door w/o even trying.
Of that list, if "consistent national player" is the standard, whatever the fuck that means, you really only have Alabama, LSU, Ohio State and, stretching a bit, Oklahoma and Florida State. That is it.
I actually don't mind these topics, but you bumble fucked this one with the stupid "blue blood" thing. It's not real. It doesn't translate on the field. It's a fan thing. -
Are you saying Miami football is like UW basketball?creepycoug said:
Look, I know you're fucking stupid. But all Cane joking aside, do you not realize that, even though they have been tripping over their lips for the last 14 years, Miami still has more impact players in the NFL than ANY OTHER PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY? Yes, more than LSU, Ohio State, USC, Alabama, Florida State ... any of them. And most of the 2001 guys are out of the league now.Tequilla said:Programs that I view as having legitimate opportunities to win a National Championship by conference (blue bloods being bolded as they have the best shots when all things line up right for them:
PAC12
USC
Washington
UCLA
Big 12
Oklahoma
Texas
Big 10
Ohio St
Michigan
Penn St
Michigan St
Wisconsin
SEC
Alabama
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Texas A&M
Auburn
Tennessee
ACC
Florida St
Notre Dame
Clemson
Miami
Virginia Tech
It's possible for some other programs to jump in from time to time, but at this point, these are the programs that I see as having some combination of the requisite size, support, recruiting capabilities, etc. to be National Championship caliber programs on a consistent basis. Toughest calls for me were leaving Georgia and Clemson off of being blue bloods as they have a lot of things going for them but they need a good amount to go right for them to be legit national championship caliber programs.
As shitty as they've been, and they have been butt stink shitty, they routinely throw first, second and third round guys into the NFL, and those guys blow the fuck up when they get there.
How is it that you can't perceive a scenario where THAT program, with all its history and accomplishment, can't consistently compete for a title, but Texas can???????? Texas has all the shit you listed, and has always had it, and look at them. Before 2005, nobody under the age of 40 knew that they had ever been good. And 2005 was 12 years ago and they haven't done shit since.
It ain't about the money dummy. Oregon has proven that. It ain't about the size of your stadium and how many asses are in the seats. Michigan has proven that. Nebraska has proven that.
It's about who you can recruit and who is coaching them. Alabama has proven that. USC has proven that. LSU has proven that. Florida State has proven that. -
Notre Dame was in the National Title Game in the last 5-7 years and been in the hunt a few other years.
Texas always has the talent and resources ... when everything is working right with them they have as high of a ceiling as anybody.
Penn St has a very fertile recruiting ground and insane levels of support.
All 3 have had SIGNIFCANT periods of success throughout history ... their success is a question of not IF but WHEN ...
Miami had about a 20 year run from the early 80s through early 00s where they were at an elite level ... before that nothing and after that above average. I wouldn't claim that anybody that thinks Miami is a blue blood is insane ... but it's certainly very debatable.
