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Cal: ESPN reports interim head coach / offensive coordinator Jake Spavital will interview for the Cal head coaching job on Tuesday. 247Sports adds that some more of the expected interviews include Wisconsin defensive coordinator Justin Wilcox and Washington co-defensive coordinator Jimmy Lake.

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  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072
    Spavital is 31. I just don't see him as having the experience to take over a program. Too big of a gamble. If Wilcox comes and keeps Spavital, I could get behind that. I liked Wilcox until he was tainted by his association with Sark. Lake seems like a solid position coach, but other than that I have no opinion of him. Still prefer Kawasaki
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Kim says " Jimmy Lake is not a candidate for the Cal job"
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    ROONEY SAYS HI!
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I think it's going to be hard to hold onto Lake forever. He will probably want a a head coaching gig at some point. Until then though let's add some 0s to that paycheck. Socha as well.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.
  • doogville
    doogville Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,229 Swaye's Wigwam

    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.

    Cheap, too. This is a move in surprised more programs don't pursue -- take a flier on an obvious stud of a coach who is on his way to a being a "legitimate" head coach candidate in a few years.

    Save a ton of money and, if you get the right guy, huge competitive advantage to get him first.

    Instead programs pay huge salaries for retreads and has beens.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,845

    Kim says " Jimmy Lake is not a candidate for the Cal job"

    He gone.
    I want him to leave for Cal just so Kim can be wrong
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    doogville said:

    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.

    Cheap, too. This is a move in surprised more programs don't pursue -- take a flier on an obvious stud of a coach who is on his way to a being a "legitimate" head coach candidate in a few years.

    Save a ton of money and, if you get the right guy, huge competitive advantage to get him first.

    Instead programs pay huge salaries for retreads and has beens.
    You mean like the Sark hire? :wink:
    Lake has actually developed guys that weren't 4 and 5 stars. He's also probably not an alcoholic.
    Some big assumptions going on here
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    This is a bottom tier PAC job ... if I was Lake I'd take the interview for the experience but I'd wait and target either the UCLA or ASU jobs when they come available
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Tequilla said:

    This is a bottom tier PAC job ... if I was Lake I'd take the interview for the experience but I'd wait and target either the UCLA or ASU jobs when they come available

    Jesus, if Lake ran UCLA. That will be a legit program
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    Tequilla said:

    This is a bottom tier PAC job ... if I was Lake I'd take the interview for the experience but I'd wait and target either the UCLA or ASU jobs when they come available

    I'd say he would be better off finding a good lower tier program like Colorado State/Boise St etc when their coach moves on. Look at the UH job...they hate it, but it's been the perfect springboard job. Get a few years learning to run a program without the craziness of having to rebuild it, get some success, and then you can move into a major program.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I wish Slick Willie had hired Lake for our DBs. But I'm happy with his staff so whatevs.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Mr. Lake. Bide your time at Washington. Let Pete hire you as the HC.

    When Pete is ready to hang it up he better be the fucking AD.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    It's not over for Kimmy Lake.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    jecornel said:

    Mr. Lake. Bide your time at Washington. Let Pete hire you as the HC.

    When Pete is ready to hang it up he better be the fucking AD.

    hiring from within has always worked out well for us ;)
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,128
    Tequilla said:

    This is a bottom tier PAC job ... if I was Lake I'd take the interview for the experience but I'd wait and target either the UCLA or ASU jobs when they come available

    Those are big jobs for a guy who doesn't even call the defensive plays. I don't think he would be a bad hire necessarily, but he doesn't have the resume. That's what the perception will be and they will hire some moderately successful coach from another program.
  • Miley_Cyrus
    Miley_Cyrus Member Posts: 832
    edited January 2017

    doogville said:

    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.

    Cheap, too. This is a move in surprised more programs don't pursue -- take a flier on an obvious stud of a coach who is on his way to a being a "legitimate" head coach candidate in a few years.

    Save a ton of money and, if you get the right guy, huge competitive advantage to get him first.

    Instead programs pay huge salaries for retreads and has beens.
    You mean like the Sark hire? :wink:
    Lake has actually developed guys that weren't 4 and 5 stars. He's also probably not an alcoholic.
    Here's a question I always wonder about regarding these coaching vacancies--

    How much does your average athletic director really know about the nuances of running a football program, and how do they evaluate candidates? The notion that Lake can develop players and recruit effectively, while Sark cannot seems obvious to us given we follow these things closely, but how obvious would that be to average Joe AD?

    And if you have an AD without a football background (Cohen?), how the fuck do they evaluate football coaches when they have them in for interviews?

    Kind of rambling here but I guess I'm mostly curious what the hell actually happens in these interviews. How does a P12 program interview someone like Pat Hill and think that's actually a good idea?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,030



    Tequilla said:

    This is a bottom tier PAC job ... if I was Lake I'd take the interview for the experience but I'd wait and target either the UCLA or ASU jobs when they come available

    Those are big jobs for a guy who doesn't even call the defensive plays. I don't think he would be a bad hire necessarily, but he doesn't have the resume. That's what the perception will be and they will hire some moderately successful coach from another program.
    Lake is going to have to go away to an FCS or mid-major if he wants to climb the head coaching ladder. His resume is too weak at this point. No way he gets a P5 head job. He'll get his name thrown out there and probably an interview as a collegiate nod to the Rooney Rule.

    Quite honestly, Tosh 2.0 can make a stronger case for a head job than Lake (sans coffee cup fiasco) at this point.

  • BearsWiin
    BearsWiin Member Posts: 5,072



    Tequilla said:

    This is a bottom tier PAC job ... if I was Lake I'd take the interview for the experience but I'd wait and target either the UCLA or ASU jobs when they come available

    Those are big jobs for a guy who doesn't even call the defensive plays. I don't think he would be a bad hire necessarily, but he doesn't have the resume. That's what the perception will be and they will hire some moderately successful coach from another program.
    Lake is going to have to go away to an FCS or mid-major if he wants to climb the head coaching ladder. His resume is too weak at this point. No way he gets a P5 head job. He'll get his name thrown out there and probably an interview as a collegiate nod to the Rooney Rule.

    Quite honestly, Tosh 2.0 can make a stronger case for a head job than Lake (sans coffee cup fiasco) at this point.

    Not at Cal, he can't. Not after how he left.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,258 Founders Club

    doogville said:

    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.

    Cheap, too. This is a move in surprised more programs don't pursue -- take a flier on an obvious stud of a coach who is on his way to a being a "legitimate" head coach candidate in a few years.

    Save a ton of money and, if you get the right guy, huge competitive advantage to get him first.

    Instead programs pay huge salaries for retreads and has beens.
    You mean like the Sark hire? :wink:
    Lake has actually developed guys that weren't 4 and 5 stars. He's also probably not an alcoholic.
    Here's a question I always wonder about regarding these coaching vacancies--

    How much does your average athletic director really know about the nuances of running a football program, and how do they evaluate candidates? The notion that Lake can develop players and recruit effectively, while Sark cannot seems obvious to us given we follow these things closely, but how obvious would that be to average Joe AD?

    And if you have an AD without a football background (Cohen?), how the fuck do they evaluate football coaches when they have them in for interviews?

    Kind of rambling here but I guess I'm mostly curious what the hell actually happens in these interviews. How does a P12 program interview someone like Pat Hill and think that's actually a good idea?
    I have 2 names for you:

    Todd Turner

    Mark Emmert

    Scott Woodward
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    doogville said:

    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.

    Cheap, too. This is a move in surprised more programs don't pursue -- take a flier on an obvious stud of a coach who is on his way to a being a "legitimate" head coach candidate in a few years.

    Save a ton of money and, if you get the right guy, huge competitive advantage to get him first.

    Instead programs pay huge salaries for retreads and has beens.
    You mean like the Sark hire? :wink:
    Lake has actually developed guys that weren't 4 and 5 stars. He's also probably not an alcoholic.
    Here's a question I always wonder about regarding these coaching vacancies--

    How much does your average athletic director really know about the nuances of running a football program, and how do they evaluate candidates? The notion that Lake can develop players and recruit effectively, while Sark cannot seems obvious to us given we follow these things closely, but how obvious would that be to average Joe AD?

    And if you have an AD without a football background (Cohen?), how the fuck do they evaluate football coaches when they have them in for interviews?

    Kind of rambling here but I guess I'm mostly curious what the hell actually happens in these interviews. How does a P12 program interview someone like Pat Hill and think that's actually a good idea?
    I have 2 names for you:

    Todd Turner

    Mark Emmert

    Scott Woodward
    That's 3
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    doogville said:

    Lake would be a good, but risky hire for Cal. He has the right demeanor to be a head coach. And he can recruit.

    Cheap, too. This is a move in surprised more programs don't pursue -- take a flier on an obvious stud of a coach who is on his way to a being a "legitimate" head coach candidate in a few years.

    Save a ton of money and, if you get the right guy, huge competitive advantage to get him first.

    Instead programs pay huge salaries for retreads and has beens.
    You mean like the Sark hire? :wink:
    Lake has actually developed guys that weren't 4 and 5 stars. He's also probably not an alcoholic.
    Here's a question I always wonder about regarding these coaching vacancies--

    How much does your average athletic director really know about the nuances of running a football program, and how do they evaluate candidates? The notion that Lake can develop players and recruit effectively, while Sark cannot seems obvious to us given we follow these things closely, but how obvious would that be to average Joe AD?

    And if you have an AD without a football background (Cohen?), how the fuck do they evaluate football coaches when they have them in for interviews?

    Kind of rambling here but I guess I'm mostly curious what the hell actually happens in these interviews. How does a P12 program interview someone like Pat Hill and think that's actually a good idea?
    I have 2 names for you:

    Todd Turner

    Mark Emmert

    Scott Woodward
    That's one