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Tommy Togiai, 4* 2018 DT, Pocatello (Highland), ID (Offered)

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  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Our 10th coach should be Tosh and it isn't close. Tosh is an elite recruiter, has learned how to properly exchange gifts, and closes Togiai et al. rather easily.

    I don't think it's overreacting to say our DL is now in a state of neglect going forward.
  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176
    biak1 said:

    Our 10th coach should be Tosh and it isn't close. Tosh is an elite recruiter, has learned how to properly exchange gifts, and closes Togiai et al. rather easily.

    I don't think it's overreacting to say our DL is now in a state of neglect going forward.

    We have 2 4 star DL commits... we are screwed for the next year or so maybe.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    It is possible to both acknowledge that Malloe is a bad recruiter that's holding us back AND still be excited about Bynum & Taimani
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054

    biak1 said:

    Our 10th coach should be Tosh and it isn't close. Tosh is an elite recruiter, has learned how to properly exchange gifts, and closes Togiai et al. rather easily.

    I don't think it's overreacting to say our DL is now in a state of neglect going forward.

    We have 2 4 star DL commits... we are screwed for the next year or so maybe.
    We basically need to stay perfectly healthy the next 2 seasons to have okay to decent depth at DT. If Levi or Jaylen Johnson go down this year (both guys have been banged up once or twice too) then we're fucked. If Taimani or Levi go down in 2019 we're probably fucked. Draco is gonna be good, and Zion probably too, but we're going to be light at NT.
  • jhfstyle24
    jhfstyle24 Member Posts: 3,255

    biak1 said:

    Our 10th coach should be Tosh and it isn't close. Tosh is an elite recruiter, has learned how to properly exchange gifts, and closes Togiai et al. rather easily.

    I don't think it's overreacting to say our DL is now in a state of neglect going forward.

    We have 2 4 star DL commits... we are screwed for the next year or so maybe.
    The issue is that when it comes to interior DT, the 1 1i 2 tech guys, the cupboard is bare. Completely. Taimani may play there, but at best that's 2 in the last 3 classes. We'll have more QB than DT on the roster.
  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Of course Tosh isn't coming here, but I'd go full doog if he did. Malloe has now gone 0-2 on guys that should've been his to seal the deal. More if you count the Utah guys from last year.

    AFAIK there is anticipated off-season attrition along the DL, not to mention our lack of good Bucks. We have Levi and Jaylen and...?
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054

    biak1 said:

    Our 10th coach should be Tosh and it isn't close. Tosh is an elite recruiter, has learned how to properly exchange gifts, and closes Togiai et al. rather easily.

    I don't think it's overreacting to say our DL is now in a state of neglect going forward.

    We have 2 4 star DL commits... we are screwed for the next year or so maybe.
    The issue is that when it comes to interior DT, the 1 1i 2 tech guys, the cupboard is bare. Completely. Taimani may play there, but at best that's 2 in the last 3 classes. We'll have more QB than DT on the roster.
    Taimani gonna be the only guy on our DL with an ass
  • YouNeed2Chill
    YouNeed2Chill Member Posts: 57
    It’s okay guys we don’t need DT’s we can just hire Grinch to implement the speed D.
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Tequilla said:

    Dennis likes to talk about wasted resources ... as soon as we realized this was a dirty recruitment and we didn’t want to play the needed game we should have cut bait and moved on

    Resources we could've possibly spent on in-homes with Cravens leading up to a December 15th visit potentially.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    here's a small part of it....brand.

    i've said it before and i'll say it again, UW has completely destroyed its own brand and is doing nothing to get it back.

    Big boy schools don't let Nike fuck with their uniforms too much but we do. We have gone from a big brand that has to resolve a crisis to becoming a non-brand that never got serious again.

    I don't give a fuck if some of the young recruits like crazy uniforms, the kids signing at Bama and USC and tOSU, etc are getting very traditional uniforms but they're buying into the brands.

    Jen Cohen has got to take ownership of this thing in my opinion. Own your fucking brand - enough of these black outs and alternate uniforms and white helmets and black helmets, etc...build a fucking brand.

    ESPN treats us like little bitches because we don't act or look like one of the prominent college programs. We look like we went cute with the brand about the same time Boise State painted their field blue. Yeah, if you go there you end up thinking it's cool, but nobody goes to UW because of our brand...that needs to change.

    How the fuck is it we have the worst looking brand in the Pac12 most weekends?

    Dreck
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    BallzDeep said:

    It’s okay guys we don’t need DT’s we can just hire Grinch to implement the speed D.

    Honestly all we need to do is switch the defense to more of a true 4-3 with more D-line bodies on the line of scrimmage and we'll be good upfront again next season.
    So to address our lack of DL depth problem, you suggest we play more DL?
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266
    But seriously Malloe, Larry Johnson at tOSU was on the Penn State defensive staff from 1996 through 2013. Surely at some point in there he was complicit in covering up Sandusky raping boys.

    That’s who we lost to. Fucking pathetic.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031

    Meek said:

    here's a small part of it....brand.

    i've said it before and i'll say it again, UW has completely destroyed its own brand and is doing nothing to get it back.

    Big boy schools don't let Nike fuck with their uniforms too much but we do. We have gone from a big brand that has to resolve a crisis to becoming a non-brand that never got serious again.

    I don't give a fuck if some of the young recruits like crazy uniforms, the kids signing at Bama and USC and tOSU, etc are getting very traditional uniforms but they're buying into the brands.

    Jen Cohen has got to take ownership of this thing in my opinion. Own your fucking brand - enough of these black outs and alternate uniforms and white helmets and black helmets, etc...build a fucking brand.

    ESPN treats us like little bitches because we don't act or look like one of the prominent college programs. We look like we went cute with the brand about the same time Boise State painted their field blue. Yeah, if you go there you end up thinking it's cool, but nobody goes to UW because of our brand...that needs to change.

    How the fuck is it we have the worst looking brand in the Pac12 most weekends?

    Dreck

    So your argument boils down to the fact that we let Nike change our uniforms and that’s why we can’t win elite recruits battles. Ok!
    two things:

    First, i said a small part.

    Second, yes if you want to be considered dream school by kids outside of the immediate vicinity then brand matters.

    I get it seems stupid but it's yet another reality check that we really don't have a brand. We have Pete and that is part of it, but nobody's building the rest of the brand around him properly.
  • RhythmicSlappingDawg
    RhythmicSlappingDawg Member Posts: 1,176

    BallzDeep said:

    BallzDeep said:

    It’s okay guys we don’t need DT’s we can just hire Grinch to implement the speed D.

    Honestly all we need to do is switch the defense to more of a true 4-3 with more D-line bodies on the line of scrimmage and we'll be good upfront again next season.
    So to address our lack of DL depth problem, you suggest we play more DL?
    Our depth is not that bad. So we're looking at a possible depth chart of:

    NT: Jaylen Johnson, Sam Taimani
    3 Tech: Levi Onwuzurike, Josiah Bronson
    5-tech: Benning Potoa'e, Jared Pulu, Shane Bowman
    Buck: Ryan Bowman, probably Joe Tryon.

    All after another year of development.
    So
    NT: True Freshman in 2 deeps
    3-Tech: Walk on in 2 deeps
    5-Tech: Guy who's been doing stand up LB for 3 years starting and walk on in 2 deeps
    Buck: Walk On and Redshirt Frosh Project in 2 deeps

    Bronson is not a guy who has walk-on level talent at all.
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    edited December 2017

    BallzDeep said:

    BallzDeep said:

    It’s okay guys we don’t need DT’s we can just hire Grinch to implement the speed D.

    Honestly all we need to do is switch the defense to more of a true 4-3 with more D-line bodies on the line of scrimmage and we'll be good upfront again next season.
    So to address our lack of DL depth problem, you suggest we play more DL?
    Our depth is not that bad. So we're looking at a possible depth chart of:

    NT: Jaylen Johnson, Sam Taimani
    3 Tech: Levi Onwuzurike, Josiah Bronson
    5-tech: Benning Potoa'e, Jared Pulu, Shane Bowman
    Buck: Ryan Bowman, probably Joe Tryon.

    All after another year of development.
    So
    NT: True Freshman in 2 deeps
    3-Tech: Walk on in 2 deeps
    5-Tech: Guy who's been doing stand up LB for 3 years starting and walk on in 2 deeps
    Buck: Walk On and Redshirt Frosh Project in 2 deeps

    Bronson is not a guy who has walk-on level talent at all.

    I like Bronson but how good do we realistically think he's going to be next year? Do you want to rely on a guy transferring from Temple and putting on 30 pounds to start if Levi goes down?
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    edited December 2017
    BallzDeep said:

    Tremblay or bust

    You're going to be disappointed then. A Cali kid who came from getting zero offers out of high school to getting that USC offer he's probably been dreaming about his whole life ain't coming here.
    I’ll be fine
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    When you play true or RS Frosh on the OL or DL it often means either the kid is really good and/or your depth sucks ... most of the time it is a clear case of abundance