It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...
I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.
If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"
I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
Alabama's defense is on a very short list for the best I've ever seen ... unbelievable speed and they just didn't make many mistakes.
This idea of running on Alabama ... nobody has really done that well against them for 6-7 years. Our OL is very good in some spots and very average (or worse) in others ... we spent the balance of the night trying to protect with 6-7 in the pass game against 4-5 from Alabama. The weakness of our OL was up the middle which made running there a challenge ... if you ran to the outside Alabama is so fast running wide that you really can't get an edge sealed ... to say it is tough is an understatement ...
Ross was double covered all night ... they had 2 deep safeties over the top to take away the shots to both Ross and Pettis ... Because we were so focused on protection we often only had 3-4 receivers against 6-7 defenders ... Bama was playing those situations with an aggressive man under to go with the help over the top. When our WRs aren't able to create separation then you have some massive problems throwing the ball.
Alabama's punter was as good as I've ever seen at the college level ... outstanding.
I'm not against a new OC but this wasn't at his feet ...
The next UW starting QB is likely Jacob Sirmon in the 2019 season ...
We need national caliber OL ... this is the biggest recruiting miss of this staff to date ...
And BTW, our punt game today was actually pretty good ... not a problem at all
It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...
I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.
If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"
I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
Alabama's defense is on a very short list for the best I've ever seen ... unbelievable speed and they just didn't make many mistakes.
This idea of running on Alabama ... nobody has really done that well against them for 6-7 years. Our OL is very good in some spots and very average (or worse) in others ... we spent the balance of the night trying to protect with 6-7 in the pass game against 4-5 from Alabama. The weakness of our OL was up the middle which made running there a challenge ... if you ran to the outside Alabama is so fast running wide that you really can't get an edge sealed ... to say it is tough is an understatement ...
Ross was double covered all night ... they had 2 deep safeties over the top to take away the shots to both Ross and Pettis ... Because we were so focused on protection we often only had 3-4 receivers against 6-7 defenders ... Bama was playing those situations with an aggressive man under to go with the help over the top. When our WRs aren't able to create separation then you have some massive problems throwing the ball.
Alabama's punter was as good as I've ever seen at the college level ... outstanding.
I'm not against a new OC but this wasn't at his feet ...
The next UW starting QB is likely Jacob Sirmon in the 2019 season ...
We need national caliber OL ... this is the biggest recruiting miss of this staff to date ...
And BTW, our punt game today was actually pretty good ... not a problem at all
National caliber OL's aren't developed overnight. By all means we need those guys, but we need jumps out of the young guys for next year. Roberts, Wattenberg, etc need to shoot the roids. Nick Harris will be a great Husky OL.
QB's are like coaches. Hit or miss. I like the idea of Sirmon because he's dripping with talent, but that's only half the battle at QB. We do need more Sirmon's and less plan D's like we have gotten.
I agree it's not all on Smith. I would blame Browning more. Still would have been nice to pound the rock more, minimize mistakes and let Hurt's beat us rather than gifting them.
It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...
I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.
If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"
I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
You should probably put the bong down.
What, Petersen is now an untouchable? I was an early advocate for Petersen on these boreds, and suffered sufficient ridicule to smoke my bong the way I want. I will put my bong down when others stop blowing smoke up his ass. My only criticism about Petersen is the softness on the team besides the defense. I think his comfort about wanting to play the spoiler's role speaks to this. He needs to develop the toughness that welcomes having a target on his back and to become an intelligent brawler. Toughness with discipline.
It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...
I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.
If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"
I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
You should probably put the bong down.
What, Petersen is now an untouchable? I was an early advocate for Petersen on these boreds, and suffered sufficient ridicule to smoke my bong the way I want. I will put my bong down when others stop blowing smoke up his ass. My only criticism about Petersen is the softness on the team besides the defense. I think his comfort about wanting to play the spoiler's role speaks to this. He needs to develop the toughness that welcomes having a target on his back and to become an intelligent brawler. Toughness with discipline.
The spoiler shit is a media contrived story because Alabama is Goliath and Pete coached at Boise State.
How were we not tough? The best DL in college football beat us down, but it was a jimmy and joe's situation more than us being soft.
We aren't on Alabama's level yet. I bash the shit out of pussy play but c'mon man.
I do think we need to be more physical on offense and possibly less analytical, but we are far from fucking soft.
I'll leave you with one thought. An ESPN analyst just made a comment that made me spit out my beer laughing. Went something like: Scarbrough ran through more Huskies than the Iditarod! ROTFLMMFAO!
It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...
I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.
If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"
I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
Alabama's defense is on a very short list for the best I've ever seen ... unbelievable speed and they just didn't make many mistakes.
This idea of running on Alabama ... nobody has really done that well against them for 6-7 years. Our OL is very good in some spots and very average (or worse) in others ... we spent the balance of the night trying to protect with 6-7 in the pass game against 4-5 from Alabama. The weakness of our OL was up the middle which made running there a challenge ... if you ran to the outside Alabama is so fast running wide that you really can't get an edge sealed ... to say it is tough is an understatement ...
Ross was double covered all night ... they had 2 deep safeties over the top to take away the shots to both Ross and Pettis ... Because we were so focused on protection we often only had 3-4 receivers against 6-7 defenders ... Bama was playing those situations with an aggressive man under to go with the help over the top. When our WRs aren't able to create separation then you have some massive problems throwing the ball.
Alabama's punter was as good as I've ever seen at the college level ... outstanding.
I'm not against a new OC but this wasn't at his feet ...
The next UW starting QB is likely Jacob Sirmon in the 2019 season ...
We need national caliber OL ... this is the biggest recruiting miss of this staff to date ...
And BTW, our punt game today was actually pretty good ... not a problem at all
National caliber OL's aren't developed overnight. By all means we need those guys, but we need jumps out of the young guys for next year. Roberts, Wattenberg, etc need to shoot the roids. Nick Harris will be a great Husky OL.
QB's are like coaches. Hit or miss. I like the idea of Sirmon because he's dripping with talent, but that's only half the battle at QB. We do need more Sirmon's and less plan D's like we have gotten.
I agree it's not all on Smith. I would blame Browning more. Still would have been nice to pound the rock more, minimize mistakes and let Hurt's beat us rather than gifting them.
There is exactly ZERO evidence to suggest that this is the case ... is it because he started as a true freshman so therefore he will be a great lineman?
You do realize that IF Fozzy was to come here, that the starting OL next year probably consists of the following moving from LT to RT:
Adams Fozzy Shelton Wattenburg McGary
Heaven forbid we were able to make a significant move at the end and get 1-2 high end OL to finish out this class?
Or to your point that we need Roberts to make a jump, if he does, then he also goes right into the OL rotation at the risk of Harris's spot?
And, you do realize that the reason Wattenburg didn't play this year was largely due to illness and not performance? Now that he's recovered from that, he should be all systems go for next year ... and his film was SIGNIFICANTLY better than Nick Harris's film?
You're a fucking faggot if you're ripping on an 18 year old that started for a 12-2 playoff team and conference champion. Just shut the fuck up.
You don't fucking get it ...
The only ripping I've done on Nick Harris today is pointing out the obvious that he isn't ready to play at this level ... it's not his fault that he's the best option in the rotation ...
The PROBLEM is that he is the BEST current option ...
To play at a NATIONAL level, you need better players than what Nick Harris CURRENTLY is ... by a long mile
Sure, he might someday get to that level ... but that day isn't today and the fact he couldn't RS is taking away a year that he could have developed into that kind of a player ...
I give him all the credit in the world for the effort he has given this year ... but the point remains that if you want to compete at the national level you MUST get MUCH BETTER play from the RG position
Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.
Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.
Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.
Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.
My point being that when playing against elite teams you need to have elite talent to compete against them
I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level
If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY
If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.
Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.
My point being that when playing against elite teams you need to have elite talent to compete against them
I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level
If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY
If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
Coach Pete will have some off season changes to make.
You're a fucking faggot if you're ripping on an 18 year old that started for a 12-2 playoff team and conference champion. Just shut the fuck up.
You don't fucking get it ...
The only ripping I've done on Nick Harris today is pointing out the obvious that he isn't ready to play at this level ... it's not his fault that he's the best option in the rotation ...
The PROBLEM is that he is the BEST current option ...
To play at a NATIONAL level, you need better players than what Nick Harris CURRENTLY is ... by a long mile
Sure, he might someday get to that level ... but that day isn't today and the fact he couldn't RS is taking away a year that he could have developed into that kind of a player ...
I give him all the credit in the world for the effort he has given this year ... but the point remains that if you want to compete at the national level you MUST get MUCH BETTER play from the RG position
Why is everyone's AIDS preventing them from understanding THIS?
I'll leave you with one thought. An ESPN analyst just made a comment that made me spit out my beer laughing. Went something like: Scarbrough ran through more Huskies than the Iditarod! ROTFLMMFAO!
Most of the Bama fans that visited us were great. You are not one of them. Kill yourself.
Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.
Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.
My point being that when playing against elite teams you need to have elite talent to compete against them
I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level
If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY
If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
Being a year older upgrades them innately. Harris on a full year of Nutrition and weight training will see a major improvement. Adams is a year older and quicker. Henry Roberts is another year developed. Who knows Forster may shock us all, or Shaw leave for the 49ers job
It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...
I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.
If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"
I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
Alabama's defense is on a very short list for the best I've ever seen ... unbelievable speed and they just didn't make many mistakes.
This idea of running on Alabama ... nobody has really done that well against them for 6-7 years. Our OL is very good in some spots and very average (or worse) in others ... we spent the balance of the night trying to protect with 6-7 in the pass game against 4-5 from Alabama. The weakness of our OL was up the middle which made running there a challenge ... if you ran to the outside Alabama is so fast running wide that you really can't get an edge sealed ... to say it is tough is an understatement ...
Ross was double covered all night ... they had 2 deep safeties over the top to take away the shots to both Ross and Pettis ... Because we were so focused on protection we often only had 3-4 receivers against 6-7 defenders ... Bama was playing those situations with an aggressive man under to go with the help over the top. When our WRs aren't able to create separation then you have some massive problems throwing the ball.
Alabama's punter was as good as I've ever seen at the college level ... outstanding.
I'm not against a new OC but this wasn't at his feet ...
The next UW starting QB is likely Jacob Sirmon in the 2019 season ...
We need national caliber OL ... this is the biggest recruiting miss of this staff to date ...
And BTW, our punt game today was actually pretty good ... not a problem at all
National caliber OL's aren't developed overnight. By all means we need those guys, but we need jumps out of the young guys for next year. Roberts, Wattenberg, etc need to shoot the roids. Nick Harris will be a great Husky OL.
QB's are like coaches. Hit or miss. I like the idea of Sirmon because he's dripping with talent, but that's only half the battle at QB. We do need more Sirmon's and less plan D's like we have gotten.
I agree it's not all on Smith. I would blame Browning more. Still would have been nice to pound the rock more, minimize mistakes and let Hurt's beat us rather than gifting them.
There is exactly ZERO evidence to suggest that this is the case ... is it because he started as a true freshman so therefore he will be a great lineman?
You do realize that IF Fozzy was to come here, that the starting OL next year probably consists of the following moving from LT to RT:
Adams Fozzy Shelton Wattenburg McGary
Heaven forbid we were able to make a significant move at the end and get 1-2 high end OL to finish out this class?
Or to your point that we need Roberts to make a jump, if he does, then he also goes right into the OL rotation at the risk of Harris's spot?
And, you do realize that the reason Wattenburg didn't play this year was largely due to illness and not performance? Now that he's recovered from that, he should be all systems go for next year ... and his film was SIGNIFICANTLY better than Nick Harris's film?
There is also absolutely zero evidence that Harris won't be able to put on weight and be a great O lineman for us, or that Wattenberg would have started if he had been healthy.
I'll put this in the form of how Jeopardy is played:
Answer: Harris, Shelton(?), tight end over the middle they trust, Ty Jones size wr, Psalm, BBK, Tevis, Beavers:
Question: Guys who can help you win you the Pac-12, but who we don't have on the roster, or can't be out on the field due to size/youth/best avail. option if you want to compete at the Bama/Clemson National Championship Table.
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This idea of running on Alabama ... nobody has really done that well against them for 6-7 years. Our OL is very good in some spots and very average (or worse) in others ... we spent the balance of the night trying to protect with 6-7 in the pass game against 4-5 from Alabama. The weakness of our OL was up the middle which made running there a challenge ... if you ran to the outside Alabama is so fast running wide that you really can't get an edge sealed ... to say it is tough is an understatement ...
Ross was double covered all night ... they had 2 deep safeties over the top to take away the shots to both Ross and Pettis ... Because we were so focused on protection we often only had 3-4 receivers against 6-7 defenders ... Bama was playing those situations with an aggressive man under to go with the help over the top. When our WRs aren't able to create separation then you have some massive problems throwing the ball.
Alabama's punter was as good as I've ever seen at the college level ... outstanding.
I'm not against a new OC but this wasn't at his feet ...
The next UW starting QB is likely Jacob Sirmon in the 2019 season ...
We need national caliber OL ... this is the biggest recruiting miss of this staff to date ...
And BTW, our punt game today was actually pretty good ... not a problem at all
QB's are like coaches. Hit or miss. I like the idea of Sirmon because he's dripping with talent, but that's only half the battle at QB. We do need more Sirmon's and less plan D's like we have gotten.
I agree it's not all on Smith. I would blame Browning more. Still would have been nice to pound the rock more, minimize mistakes and let Hurt's beat us rather than gifting them.
How were we not tough? The best DL in college football beat us down, but it was a jimmy and joe's situation more than us being soft.
We aren't on Alabama's level yet. I bash the shit out of pussy play but c'mon man.
I do think we need to be more physical on offense and possibly less analytical, but we are far from fucking soft.
You do realize that IF Fozzy was to come here, that the starting OL next year probably consists of the following moving from LT to RT:
Adams
Fozzy
Shelton
Wattenburg
McGary
Heaven forbid we were able to make a significant move at the end and get 1-2 high end OL to finish out this class?
Or to your point that we need Roberts to make a jump, if he does, then he also goes right into the OL rotation at the risk of Harris's spot?
And, you do realize that the reason Wattenburg didn't play this year was largely due to illness and not performance? Now that he's recovered from that, he should be all systems go for next year ... and his film was SIGNIFICANTLY better than Nick Harris's film?
The only ripping I've done on Nick Harris today is pointing out the obvious that he isn't ready to play at this level ... it's not his fault that he's the best option in the rotation ...
The PROBLEM is that he is the BEST current option ...
To play at a NATIONAL level, you need better players than what Nick Harris CURRENTLY is ... by a long mile
Sure, he might someday get to that level ... but that day isn't today and the fact he couldn't RS is taking away a year that he could have developed into that kind of a player ...
I give him all the credit in the world for the effort he has given this year ... but the point remains that if you want to compete at the national level you MUST get MUCH BETTER play from the RG position
Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.
I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level
If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY
If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
Will be interesting to see what he does.
Answer: Harris, Shelton(?), tight end over the middle they trust, Ty Jones size wr, Psalm, BBK, Tevis, Beavers:
Question: Guys who can help you win you the Pac-12, but who we don't have on the roster, or can't be out on the field due to size/youth/best avail. option if you want to compete at the Bama/Clemson National Championship Table.