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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,714 Founders Club
    Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.

    Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    haie said:

    Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.

    Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.

    My point being that when playing against elite teams you need to have elite talent to compete against them

    I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level

    If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY

    If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.

    Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.

    My point being that when playing against elite teams you need to have elite talent to compete against them

    I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level

    If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY

    If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
    Coach Pete will have some off season changes to make.

    Will be interesting to see what he does.
  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,757
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Yeah their DL was the best in the country going up against an OL that couldn't match the talent and depth. It's why they were favored the entire time.

    Just seems like pointing out the obvious fact that the o line needs to be elite and isn't has little to do with Harris. Eldrenkamp+Adams+McGary got smashed. The end.

    My point being that when playing against elite teams you need to have elite talent to compete against them

    I have nothing against any of our OL ... but collectively they aren't at THAT level

    If we want to compete for NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS we need to up our talent level on the OL SIGNIFICANTLY

    If our goal is to win conference championships then the status quo will keep us in the discussion
    Being a year older upgrades them innately. Harris on a full year of Nutrition and weight training will see a major improvement. Adams is a year older and quicker. Henry Roberts is another year developed. Who knows Forster may shock us all, or Shaw leave for the 49ers job
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    It's easy to tell the people that watched the game in person versus those that watched it from home based on their comments about the passing game ...

    I don't care what was called today ... guys weren't open.

    If you can't understand WHY we struggled offensively today, where it starts, and the attributes that contribute to it, then it's way too easy to just sit back and say "the play calling sucks"

    I watched from home. So enlighten us. Smith did nothing to establish the run game. We became one-dimensional, playing to the strength of the top rated defense. Except for the TD pass to Pettis, it looked to me that Browning and Ross didn't trust the play calling and tried to force things. I think this team needs: new OC, a real QB, OL depth, and improved special teams, especially punting. Watching Bama's punter reminded me of James' teams. Maybe a new HC is needed since Petersen is not comfortable having a "target on his back." I want a tough minded brawler with the intelligence of Peteresen as HC. Besides the defense, the team is too soft. It was a great season. But to truly become elite again is going to take more than a PR (purple reign, the pursuit, etc.) campaign.
    Alabama's defense is on a very short list for the best I've ever seen ... unbelievable speed and they just didn't make many mistakes.

    This idea of running on Alabama ... nobody has really done that well against them for 6-7 years. Our OL is very good in some spots and very average (or worse) in others ... we spent the balance of the night trying to protect with 6-7 in the pass game against 4-5 from Alabama. The weakness of our OL was up the middle which made running there a challenge ... if you ran to the outside Alabama is so fast running wide that you really can't get an edge sealed ... to say it is tough is an understatement ...

    Ross was double covered all night ... they had 2 deep safeties over the top to take away the shots to both Ross and Pettis ... Because we were so focused on protection we often only had 3-4 receivers against 6-7 defenders ... Bama was playing those situations with an aggressive man under to go with the help over the top. When our WRs aren't able to create separation then you have some massive problems throwing the ball.

    Alabama's punter was as good as I've ever seen at the college level ... outstanding.

    I'm not against a new OC but this wasn't at his feet ...

    The next UW starting QB is likely Jacob Sirmon in the 2019 season ...

    We need national caliber OL ... this is the biggest recruiting miss of this staff to date ...

    And BTW, our punt game today was actually pretty good ... not a problem at all
    National caliber OL's aren't developed overnight. By all means we need those guys, but we need jumps out of the young guys for next year. Roberts, Wattenberg, etc need to shoot the roids. Nick Harris will be a great Husky OL.

    QB's are like coaches. Hit or miss. I like the idea of Sirmon because he's dripping with talent, but that's only half the battle at QB. We do need more Sirmon's and less plan D's like we have gotten.

    I agree it's not all on Smith. I would blame Browning more. Still would have been nice to pound the rock more, minimize mistakes and let Hurt's beat us rather than gifting them.
    There is exactly ZERO evidence to suggest that this is the case ... is it because he started as a true freshman so therefore he will be a great lineman?

    You do realize that IF Fozzy was to come here, that the starting OL next year probably consists of the following moving from LT to RT:

    Adams
    Fozzy
    Shelton
    Wattenburg
    McGary

    Heaven forbid we were able to make a significant move at the end and get 1-2 high end OL to finish out this class?

    Or to your point that we need Roberts to make a jump, if he does, then he also goes right into the OL rotation at the risk of Harris's spot?

    And, you do realize that the reason Wattenburg didn't play this year was largely due to illness and not performance? Now that he's recovered from that, he should be all systems go for next year ... and his film was SIGNIFICANTLY better than Nick Harris's film?
    There is also absolutely zero evidence that Harris won't be able to put on weight and be a great O lineman for us, or that Wattenberg would have started if he had been healthy.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The Doogman-ness of so many on this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon
  • godawgst
    godawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,554 Swaye's Wigwam
    I'll put this in the form of how Jeopardy is played:

    Answer: Harris, Shelton(?), tight end over the middle they trust, Ty Jones size wr, Psalm, BBK, Tevis, Beavers:

    Question: Guys who can help you win you the Pac-12, but who we don't have on the roster, or can't be out on the field due to size/youth/best avail. option if you want to compete at the Bama/Clemson National Championship Table.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla said:

    The Doogman-ness of so many on this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon

    Have you forgetten how big of an excuse making, piece of shit doog you have always been?

    We think Harris will be good. I've seen him play well. Nobody thought we would dominate Alabama up front. It needs to get better. It also will get better with 4 returning starters, Dissly/Sample and some promising young guys. Fuck off.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    The Doogman-ness of so many on this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon

    Have you forgetten how big of an excuse making, piece of shit doog you have always been?

    We think Harris will be good. I've seen him play well. Nobody thought we would dominate Alabama up front. It needs to get better. It also will get better with 4 returning starters, Dissly/Sample and some promising young guys. Fuck off.
    In years past, if I made a comment that said "we struggled in the passing game because of Nick Harris" you would take that as making an excuse to explain away the problems of Jake Browning, Babushka, etc.

    The comments that I've made regarding Harris today are exactly the same as I would have made 5 years ago ...

    As for the "fuck off" ... I don't get mad ... I just get even ... trust me, you won't like the road that I take on that.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Doogman-ness of so many on this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon

    Have you forgetten how big of an excuse making, piece of shit doog you have always been?

    We think Harris will be good. I've seen him play well. Nobody thought we would dominate Alabama up front. It needs to get better. It also will get better with 4 returning starters, Dissly/Sample and some promising young guys. Fuck off.
    In years past, if I made a comment that said "we struggled in the passing game because of Nick Harris" you would take that as making an excuse to explain away the problems of Jake Browning, Babushka, etc.

    The comments that I've made regarding Harris today are exactly the same as I would have made 5 years ago ...

    As for the "fuck off" ... I don't get mad ... I just get even ... trust me, you won't like the road that I take on that.
    What in the actual fuck?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Doogman-ness of so many on this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon

    Have you forgetten how big of an excuse making, piece of shit doog you have always been?

    We think Harris will be good. I've seen him play well. Nobody thought we would dominate Alabama up front. It needs to get better. It also will get better with 4 returning starters, Dissly/Sample and some promising young guys. Fuck off.
    In years past, if I made a comment that said "we struggled in the passing game because of Nick Harris" you would take that as making an excuse to explain away the problems of Jake Browning, Babushka, etc.

    The comments that I've made regarding Harris today are exactly the same as I would have made 5 years ago ...

    As for the "fuck off" ... I don't get mad ... I just get even ... trust me, you won't like the road that I take on that.
    What in the actual fuck?
    That's for me to know and for you to find out
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited January 2017
    You two need to get a room at the Motel 6 right next to the 7-11.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter

    You two need to get a room at the Motel 6 right next to the 7-11.

    Perfect meet-up for a fight & fuck.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Gloves are off
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    edited January 2017

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    The Doogman-ness of so many on this thread makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull spoon

    Have you forgetten how big of an excuse making, piece of shit doog you have always been?

    We think Harris will be good. I've seen him play well. Nobody thought we would dominate Alabama up front. It needs to get better. It also will get better with 4 returning starters, Dissly/Sample and some promising young guys. Fuck off.
    In years past, if I made a comment that said "we struggled in the passing game because of Nick Harris" you would take that as making an excuse to explain away the problems of Jake Browning, Babushka, etc.

    The comments that I've made regarding Harris today are exactly the same as I would have made 5 years ago ...

    As for the "fuck off" ... I don't get mad ... I just get even ... trust me, you won't like the road that I take on that.
    What in the actual fuck?
    Sounds like the gloves may be coming off.







    The love gloves that is.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Gloves are off

    Not yet ... you will know when they are
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    *Golves you bunch of fucking retards