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dhdawg
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Brock Huard? Really?dhdawg said: -
http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html
looking back, and I'm not trying to defend the pac-12, the out of conference results sans USC vs Alabama and WSU against Eastern weren't that far off from what you would expect.
Most of the Pac-12 teams that were ranked preseason and lost in the OOC ended up being awful. Colorado was leading at michigan until they lost liufau
If USC plays that game vs bama now it's a different story -
People forget that aTm beating UCLA in OT was a quality win in the eyes of some.
People forget that. -
Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
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CAL BEAT TEXAS
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You guys are burying the lede here.
Sagarin!? WHO THE FUCK KILLED SRS?????? -
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
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People forget that advanced metrics had Hillary winning.
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agree. I was mocking chest.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
however the pac wasn't as bad in the OOC as it appeared at the time -
TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
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This bored is slipping ... I read through the entire thread and didn't see a single
Chest is your source? -
Sure Sagarin's ratings are a joke, all they did was pick games at a 73% rate straight up and 52% against the spread.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
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Picking straight up is not that difficult. The point spread alone predicts the outright winner over 75% of the time. It's not hard to identify who is favored before kickoff. See Phil Steele study for details.
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The mid-week line got the straight up winner correct 72.5% of the time this season.AtomicDawg said:Picking straight up is not that difficult. The point spread alone predicts the outright winner over 75% of the time. It's not hard to identify who is favored before kickoff. See Phil Steele study for details.
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Understand vs the spread. Picking straight up is a different scenario and very easy. From 97 to 2011 it was correct over 75% of the time.AIRWOLF said:
The mid-week line got the straight up winner correct 72.5% of the time this season.AtomicDawg said:Picking straight up is not that difficult. The point spread alone predicts the outright winner over 75% of the time. It's not hard to identify who is favored before kickoff. See Phil Steele study for details.
Beating the spread by even a couple percentage points is very difficult when you are predicting every game.
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Well, this year it was only right 72.5%. I saw somewhere else that 10+ pt dogs won at something like twice the normal rate this season.AtomicDawg said:
Understand vs the spread. Picking straight up is a different scenario and very easy. From 97 to 2011 it was correct over 75% of the time.AIRWOLF said:
The mid-week line got the straight up winner correct 72.5% of the time this season.AtomicDawg said:Picking straight up is not that difficult. The point spread alone predicts the outright winner over 75% of the time. It's not hard to identify who is favored before kickoff. See Phil Steele study for details.
Beating the spread by even a couple percentage points is very difficult when you are predicting every game. -
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes. -
Indiana maybe. Maryland and MSU not so much.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes. -
So you haven't watched Oregon, Oregon State, or Cal this year?AIRWOLF said:
Indiana maybe. Maryland and MSU not so much.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
There's a reason half of the Pac-12 didn't even make bowl games. -
CAL BEAT TEXASTierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you haven't watched Oregon, Oregon State, or Cal this year?AIRWOLF said:
Indiana maybe. Maryland and MSU not so much.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
There's a reason half of the Pac-12 didn't even make bowl games. -
MSU and Maryland were at least equally as bad.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
So you haven't watched Oregon, Oregon State, or Cal this year?AIRWOLF said:
Indiana maybe. Maryland and MSU not so much.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
There's a reason half of the Pac-12 didn't even make bowl games.
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Chest thought this bored would be dead by now.
Oh and he's also a faggot, -
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes. -
Most of the better quant rating systems agree with you.Mad_Son said:
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes. -
Well our sos is shit according to them. Don't disagree with them there.
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Oregon State finished forf in the Norf.Mad_Son said:
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
You just made my point for me. -
Ahem.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Oregon State finished forf in the Norf.Mad_Son said:
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
North Division
Teams Conf Overall
1 Washington 8-1 11-1
2 Washington State 7-2 8-4
3 Stanford 6-3 9-3
4 California 3-6 5-7
5 Oregon State 3-6 4-8
6 Oregon 2-7 4-8
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Not all teams with the same records are created equally, bw's point aside.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Oregon State finished forf in the Norf.Mad_Son said:
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
You just made my point for me. -
Oregon State beat Cal.BearsWiin said:
Ahem.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Oregon State finished forf in the Norf.Mad_Son said:
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
North Division
Teams Conf Overall
1 Washington 8-1 11-1
2 Washington State 7-2 8-4
3 Stanford 6-3 9-3
4 California 3-6 5-7
5 Oregon State 3-6 4-8
6 Oregon 2-7 4-8
Case closed. -
Cal beat Utah, Utah beat USC, USC beat Washington. Oregon State won the Pac-12 North!!!!!TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Oregon State beat Cal.BearsWiin said:
Ahem.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Oregon State finished forf in the Norf.Mad_Son said:
That is definitely not true. I've watched more shitty big ten football than I should have since I went to Wisconsin and my wife went to Maryland... those teams are Oregon State level bad. Having three very good teams and three terrible teams doesn't make you better than having a real spread of quality. Washingon, WSU, Stanford are not be as good as Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State but the lower half of the division makes up for it when you get to the bottom half of the Big Ten East.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Mad_Son said:
Indiana, Maryland, Michigan state, and Rutgers say hi.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Sagarin is a joke. No fucking way is the P12 North better than the B1G East.
Except for Rutgers, they're better than the bottom three of the P12 North.
Your silence about the top half speaks volumes.
North Division
Teams Conf Overall
1 Washington 8-1 11-1
2 Washington State 7-2 8-4
3 Stanford 6-3 9-3
4 California 3-6 5-7
5 Oregon State 3-6 4-8
6 Oregon 2-7 4-8
Case closed.
